>> rockefeller, i honestly believe rockefeller was his preferred candidate for president of the united states. he brought rockefeller down to the white house in a secret meeting to talk to him about that. >> it's another indication of this weird bipartisanship of lbj. he appreciated talent, no matter which side of the aisle it was on. and he had great respect for nelson rockefeller's abilities. and i as a young person in the white house, thought it was strange that the president was so willing to consort with these strange republicans. >> but he admired rockefeller. >> did you mean, joe, that you think, if humphrey had been the nominee, he would have voted for rockefeller? >> i don't know what he would have done. i do remember one thing about rockefeller. when rockefeller got divorced and married happy, it was a big scandal. i mean it was a big deal in politics for that to happen. and there was a white house dinner and he was going over the list with liz carpenter. and he said, add nelson rockefeller, i want him down here, with his new wife. and had him down. >> we're kind of coming to

founda rockefeller foundation today in terms of who it gives to. because my impression is that it's evolved since you became president. >> so the challenge we seek to solve is that in this where periods where the world is changing so dramatic three things become problematic. you can't predict all the shocks so you have to build resilience, individual resilience, environmental resilience, systems resilience in order to rebound more quickly from those shocks. financially, the global financial crisis was a lack of financial resilience. and the second is you have to build nor equitable growth. this has been a period unlike any other in modern history where every countries that's grown has grown more inequitiably. that is true in the developing world and it's true in countries in the developed world. >> in other words, the rich got richer and the poor -- >> in every country. we focused on ourselves in the u.s. but it is true around the world. the last country for whom it was not true is brazil and now even brazil has shifted. so how do you create opport

rockefeller at the same time built the first nursing school in india. they already had a pretty good medical school. and so this notion that this was a foundation, a family that really believed that even then a hundred years ago which was a pretty amazing point of view, that americans had to reach out to the world, understand the world and be touched by it. and until the martial plan rockefeller was giving more foreign aid than the u.s. government isn't that extraothers. giving more aid than wrb. >> really transformed both how foreign aid was done and also made philanthropy move aside and try to figure out what it was going to do. but we were always looking at asia. and china was going through so many different periods. india was going through so many different periods. we were moving in and out of offices there depending what the government was doing, and whether we were welcome or not. two very different countries with very different principleses about how they are operating that really are, even though it feels like slowing to you, to us it feels lik

and he had great respect for nelson rockefeller's abilities. and i as a young person in the white house thought it was strange that the president was so willing to consort with these strange republicans. but he admired rockefeller. >> do you mean, joe, that you think if humphrey had been the nominee he would have voted for rock feller? >> i don't know what he would have done. when rockefeller got divorced and married happy, it was a big scandal. i mean it was a big deal in politics for that to happen. and there was a white house dinner. and he was going over the list with liz carpenter and he said and nelson rockefeller, wanted him down here, his new wife, and had him down. >> we're kind of coming to the end of this. >> but i would just like to go around and ask each of you what, do you think is the quality about lyndon johnson that today's politicians would do well to emulate? or what was it about him that they could learn from him that would help them the most? senator mcgovern, what woo you say? >> well, i think we've all talked about his gr

senator jay rockefeller who chaired a hearing into the cruise industry weeks after the disaster saysponsibility. >> the cruise ship is the captain. right? i mean he didn't wander in on his own and start turning the wheel or whatever it is, pushing buttons, the company is the captain, the captain is the company. >> costa and some other lines have made changes since the disaster. current regulations say there must be an assembly drill within 24 hours of embark indication. now those drills are held before a ship leaves port. but that wasn't the case with the costa concordia, hector perez says safety officers went so far as to encourage passengers to ignore the lecture all together. >> she told everybody that we're all adults here, that we came here to have fun and to go spend your money at the casinos, there's nice restaurants to go to the restaurants and just basically place your red emergency drill cards in front of the table and he will scan them on your way out. >> after the accident, clia, the largest industry lobbying group and it's european counter part announced changes in the w

senator jay rockefeller who had a hearing into the cruise industry weeks after the disaster says theibility. >> the cruise ship is the captain, right? i mean, he didn't wander in on his own and start turning the wheel or whatever it is, pushing buttons. the company is the captain. the captain is the company. >> costa and some other lines have made changes since the concordia disaster. current regulations say there must be an assembly drill within 24 hours of embarkation. know those are held before a ship leaves port. that wasn't the case with the costa concordia. eck t hector said the crew encouraged passengers to ignore it all together. >> he said we were all adults here, to have fun, spend money at the casino, there were nice restaurants, to go to the restaurants and basically just place your red emergency drill cards in front of the table and he will scan them on your way out. >> just last week clia, the largest industry lobbying group and its european counterpart announced changes in the way ships would handle emergencies. passengers will be given 12 specific instructions includi

senator rockefeller says the industry is piloting their boats through legal loopholes. >> they don't would help these 20 federal agencies which are watching over them. they always say safety is their emphasis. i've never quite believed that. i think the bottom line is their emphasis. >> finances aside, the question looming after the concordia disaster, is the cruise line taking safely seriously? >> did it take the deaths of 32 people onboard to prompt you to take action? ♪ ♪ pop goes the world ♪ it goes something like this ♪ everybody here is a friend of mine ♪ ♪ everybody, tell me, have you heard? ♪ [ female announcer ] pop in a whole new kind of clean with new tide pods... a powerful three-in-one detergent that cleans, brightens, and fights stains. just one removes more stains than the 6 next leading pacs combined. pop in. stand out. >>> the cruise industry has expanded fast worldwide seeking out new markets in asia and europe. the u.s. industry says it's created more than 300,000 jobs and claims there were just 28 fatalities related to operational incidents in the last decade, a f

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announcer: from nbc news, this is "today" with matt lauer and savannah guthrie, live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >>> and good morning. welcome to "today" on wednesday morning. i'm matt lauer. >> good morning, everyone. i'm savannah guthrie. we do have breaking news. that overnight train derailment and explosion in columbus. it happened to the southeast of the hawaii state university campus. >> it shook up a lot of people. witnesses say a huge fireball lit up the sky and a chemical smell filled the air. right now investigators aren't sure exactly what caused that crash. as we said, the area around the site has been evacuated as a precaution. we're going to have the latest on this story coming up just ahead. >>> also ahead this morning police released the frantic 911 call made after a florida teenager was attacked by an alligator. he lost one of his arms. it could have been much worse. coming up we're going to hear that call. the victim will explain why he has television to change for his

rockefeller. a contribution to american life that was above that of many government policies and government programs. so the federal government does not have the tutelary power, does not have the monopoly in many areas. we've still got philanthropy. bill gates is trying to be a smart philanthropist. he's done some dumb things and taken metrics and trying to do better. so we do have a vital philanthropic thing. two important respects, i think we still remain an exceptional nation in the way that tocqueville was the first to recognize. one is that we're still by and large a religious people and a people who are respectful of the religion of others. there's an increasing percentage of people that identify themselves as unbelievers. it is still very low. the sociologists and sophisticateds that predicted that europe is secular and the united states when it advances enough will go secular too, have simply been proven wrong by events. if anything, forms have strengthened religion that demand greater dev

john rockefeller acclaimed the ford operation as the industrial marvel of the age. at the same time, woodrow wilson convinced ford to run for the senate of the united states as a progress active democrat. individuals like charlie chaplin denounced it, but a survey of american workers themselves ranked ford as the american leader most helpful to labor, above franklin roosevelt, above walter ruther. ford's roll as approvity of consumer culture explained part of this appeal. his pronouncement about the automobile, enjoyment of abundance caught popular imagination in an age ready to abandon restraints of former tradition. he believed the automobile did not just provide a faster and easier mode of communication, it enhanced the quality of life for common people. his words, i will build a motor car for the great multitude, he said of the model t, so low in price that no man making a good salary will be able to unknown one and enjoy with his family the blessings of hours of pleasure in god's great open spaces. the enjoyment and pleasure of the multitude. that was the key c

rockefeller is the senior senator from west virginia, chairman to the democratic -- is a politician of some standing, just to correct it. i get the feeling listening to charles, which is a joy, that of barack obama ran into a burning building to restrepo widow and her orphaned child, he would say that he did -- restitute a widow and her orphaned child, he would say that he did not enforce the arson laws. [laughter] >> barack obama all the way. just the way he seems to be in touch with people and reaches out to the middle class and lower middle class, and that is who we are. >> i would rather sit down with barack obama to discuss how he is causing real problems for this country. >> what does that last answer tell you about the mitt romney candidacy? >> that people don't really like mitt romney but might vote for him anyway to get rid of obama. >> they are both cold fish. in this popular stage, everybody is demanding touchy-feely -- this populist age, everybody is demanding touchy-feely -- >> "what street journal" pohl, who was more likeable, obama was up 36% -- >> relative to romney.

i used to be a rockefeller republican when i ran for political office in pennsylvania and saw that there was one moderate republican left arlen spector and he switched to the democratic party that is when i switched to a democrat. i'm thrilled by her platform and thrilled by her providing inspiration to young republican women that they can be liberal and fiscally conservative. >> the republican party as mercy said welcomes all points of view and it's great that meghan mccain it's funny that you are laughing. >> i don't. >> well, let me finish. meghan mccain is a fresh voice. the problem i have with make sen that she tries to polarize the party by using the word moderate as if being a conservative is bad. and you know, that is not the way she is going about t she is socially liberal that is fine. right now, the party is not where she is on social issues and with respect to your comment, sam, about the republican party not being for women's reproductive rights that is just false. we are for reproductive rights but we don't believe federal funding should go to abortion and mandates for birt

now he's the head of the rockefeller brothers' fund. anthund radicals. >> how would one safeguard against such use -- >> i don't think you really can if you're leaving y. it's a huge pblemle y ovfo stt sunsetting the foundation. i mean, you can't foresee what's going to go on through two, three generations. i think the, that's why i like the idea of redefining what's pocall ye juin's g et t exemption. you've got to just give to charity. and which would be hospitals. you know, i don't want to devise a reform while i'm standing here. i'm sure that some wise heads cagurethblic s eti t inh t basic solution. the other is you've got to sunset it. you can't have wealth existing in perpetuity. and what's the problem with giving it away while yore alive? yo then a, maldive and all these open borders groups and their might. recently we have this declaration by mr. obama. there's two parts to this. can you reflecon why the mia seems to be unablto hdlean pellmmti hean tlkute y-ed view of someone who was brought here when they were 8, and wouldn't i

or is she told me after the interview she said yeah, i am a rockefeller republican or ldwater republican which goes back to the 60s and 70s. >> well, i think she represents a segment of the g.o.p.. i think like she mentioned in her book, the g.o.p. is a big tent and we come with different diverse thoughts diverse opinions but we believe in small government and individual empowerment which is what the republican party stands for. you know we want the diversity. it's important for the party. >> do you think the leaders of the party right now want that diversity? or do they want to shutdown because you know she has run all e ads with tape over her mouth they don't want her talk being her liberal views on social issues. >> again, will you find in the republican party that it is about the diversity and about what the main issues the small government, i think you will see as well as the individualism. and so i think that for her she is going to have her opinions on that. and she might be more fiscally conservative but yet socially liberal. there are people people that are socially conservative

dawes and rockefeller so i think that the balance of power shifted more in the mill as a result of the progressive legislation and i think that unfortunately we have back to the beginning of the twentieth century in terms of political power and also in. so that people feel they are i think. a strong populous pressure everywhere because people feel that they're not getting ahead they don't have a future their children are not going to be wealthier than they are and they would send the system plus they feel that everything has been greek i think these condos from the live too many others i think suggest that this is that is not fair so i think at we are on of a tense situation and a lot of. pressure and the question is are we going to use this i was going to use it to destroy the system that with all these defects created so much wealth or going to use it to make this is that bad and i think that the progressive they are legislation suggest that you coud use this pressure to make this is the better and that's what i'm trying to do with my book where you're one of the arguments you make i

our original bill, senators collins, feinstein, rockefeller and i, called for mandatory cyber safety standards for all critical infrastructure after those standards were developed in consultation with the private sector. we didn't think this was a unique or onerous requirement, but really our responsibility in carrying out our constitutional oath to provide for the common defense, since antiquity in fact long before the american constitution, societies have chosen to adopt safety standards to protect their citizens, particularly safety standards for physical structures, starting with the homes we live in, but also our offices, factories and critical infrastructure like power plants and dams. today, we call these building codes. can you imagine if there were no building codes, the danger that people would take when they walked into office buildings or factories or apartment houses or residences? i cannot resist saying that these building codes in some sense are as old as the bible, mr. president. here i go to duty ron m.i.a. -- deuteronomy 22:00. 8, which says when you build a new hou

and. >> the rockefeller foundation did that a long time ago. >> what they did is phenomenal. and there are hundreds of millions of people alive today because of the green revolution that they helped foster. >> what is it today. >> just call it green revolution two. >> okay. and this one we are just totally in their foot steps. now it's new science to get the productivity up to these higher levels and you have some headwinds with the climate change, the heat, the water and those things but it can be done with great innovation, to have enough that kids arbts mall nourished an the world as a whole doesn't have food shortage. >> have you changed your philosophy about the market, about the way the world works? about some fundamental assumptions that you had. >> well, the market is the most powerful tool we've ever come up with. the limitations of the market, they're really two that are always tryinging. one is that you underinvest in innovation because the risk only gets a small part of what might be possible. and so there's tons of the amount of put into innovation is lower than

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live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >> good morning. welcome to "today" on a monday morning.truly is a new day around here. i'm matt lauer and pleased to be sharing this new day with savannah guthrie, who after several years playing the great role on this program takes a step forward this morning and joins us as co-anchor of "today." how does it feel? >> great. good morning. it's an honor to be here. >> i get to be the first to officially say, welcome to "today." we are thrilled to have you. we have this goofy tradition here on the "today" show and have for some time where we get to do a little deju vu with you. one more time. >> savannah guthrie, live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >> you have to get used to that. >> i'm glad you played again. i was so nervous, i didn't hear it the first time. >> you're going to have to watch this whole show again. >> she had the jitters. >> she is so honest, very real. we love her very much around here. >> i was so amped up from wimbledon. >> i didn't know it was on. i heard the match was amazing. >> it was murray versus federer. >> i

your father was nelson rockefeller's campaign manager long before he created the world's most famous television shows. do you remember that theory, his political life. >> i do because i was sent out into the street to campaign for rocky myself against nixon in the primary. when i was i think a teenager and i wasn't really aware of too much going on. i knew that i still am very aware that rockefeller is the kind of republican we don't really have anymore. the lefty republican. >> what did you make of nixon? what did it do to your view of politics. >> my father had a show called make me laugh. he decided for the first show to do it with three different senators. i guess the third guest, the concept of the show is they would have different comedians like henna youngman pitching jokes and trying to make them laugh. nixon was the last and pitched one joke and no response. second joke and no response. there was a pause and nixon laughed. at the cocktail party, nixon came up to my father and said you know, pat, i didn't really need to laugh, but i thought i would look better if i did. >> th

when nelson rockefeller was nominated to be the vice president, he went through an examination of his finances by congress that was unprecedented. they looked at six years of his tax returns and that was because of this special nature of nominating for vice president a rockefeller. i think it would be hard for romney even assuming of course i assume that everything was legal, but it's very much what's wrong with the tax code. it's not progressive. there are things available to some people that aren't available to other people. >> which john brings me to the other problem. he's been on adamant i wouldn't change for example the rules on carried interest which is how he had a very low tax rate on money that was investment income essentially. he'd have to come out and say i would change the what you so that people can't pay those low rates. he'd have to flip-flop. >> or evolve as he has said on many other issues in the past. >> there's nothing wrong with evolving. >> no. especially if it's counter to your swelf interests on the surface. if you say i did pay a lower rate and it's one more