but they lead places like rockford. when the jobs leave rockford, young people don't like to stay in that kind of town either. they go to other metropolises, maybe they are thrives other places, very often bigger places like chicago or minneapolis. and then the town begins to feel old. and in rockford, the of majority white population, which is more than 70% of the population will tell you whenever you talk to them, rockford is an aging town. the problem is we have to reverse our aging. they elected a young mayor to turn it around. he ran on the platform of rejuvenating the town. underneath, underneath the surface, they don't talk about the young rockford that's taking shape. the immigrants coming to fill in what the young natives have left in the care fields, even in industrial jobs, so the minority population in rockford is quite young. even when you come compare? >> and the growth rates are good. >> also they recruit. they sent recruiters to the philippines to bring back 100 nurses to their health care, which is in r

. >> you've got a section in the book on rockford, and rockford is really trying to compete and make itself viable again. it's got one of the gigantickest unemployment rates in the country, and they're really trying to noodle this whole competition thing. they've got some older people, but they're bringing in be immigrants, they're bringing in people who are former refugees, i think there's a burmese population in rockford now. >> that's right. i think there's 1600 burmese in rockford, midwest's best burmese restaurant. [laughter] well, rockford is emblematic of a kind of city that's all over the industrial world now. the mid-sized city that really couldn't keep up with the tides of globalization. it had a robust economy filled with companies that took advantage of the deal that the rest of the world offered them. they could move jobs out, hire low-cost, energetic workers unencumbered by age-related expenses elsewhere in the world. sometimes it's the american south, sometimes it's the south of china, but they leave places like rockford. and when the jobs leave rockford, young people

one tea party in rockford, illinois, could have a different view than a tea party up in milwaukee, wisconsin. the fundamental similarities are we want to get our country back on track, economically. we want to recognize that the government is making promises it can't keep and we immediate to get serious about the debt and deficit in this country. >> i agree with a lot of republicans. i grew up in the republican party. i completely understand -- >> what happened? >> i studied the issues. let me ask you about the fact of smaller government, less tax. they're popular ideas. i understand the appeal of those. for a long time donald trump was the lead ner the polls because he challenged the president's legitimacy as an american. there is an appeal to the birther stuff. the president had to show his papers to shut it down. what is it in your party that was so focused that you made donald trump the front runner because all he did was raise the birther issue. >> first of all, i didn't make donald trump the front runner. >> he was the leader in the polls. >> hang on a second, chris. i never one time q

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we have links to reports out of arkansas and rockford, ohio, shreveport, louisiana, jacksonville, north carolina, cape cod, massachusetts. we linked to some of these at our blog, maddowblog.com. this is the single deadliest incident for americans in the entire decade of this war. the taliban, of course, took credit within hours of the attack, but that doesn't always mean much. according to u.s. officials, it was a rocket propelled grenade but more details are unknown. this is a twin helicopter caring are the americans and afghans that was on its way to a mission apparently targeting a taliban leader. the chinook helicopter was hit before reaching those rangers, and those rangers were the first to secure the crash site. joining us live from afghanistan, richard engle, up at an ungodly hour to be with us tonight. richard, thanks so much for joining us, appreciate it. >> it's a pleasure, and it is, i think, a very important story. not just for the loss of life, which is in itself very tragic, but it says a lot about the war itself and how it's going, that ten years, nearly ten years on, yo

part due to the coverage of their hometown newspapers swrechl links from green forest, arkansas and rockford, shreveport, louisiana, jacksonville, north carolina, nashville, tennessee, cape cod, massachusetts. we have linked to some of these at our blog today. maddowblog.com. in addition to learning more about the casualties we are learning more about the circumstances of the incident as in the a entire decade of this war. the taliban, of course, took credit within hours of the attack, but that doesn't always mean much. according to u.s. officials, it was a rocket propelled grenade but more details are unknown. this is a twin rotor helicopter. it was on its way to provide support to army rangers on a mission, apparently targeting a taliban leader. the chinook helicopter was hit before reaching those rangers and those same army rangers were the first to secure the crash site after the chopper came down. joining us live from afghanistan is richard engine, nbc chief foreign correspondent who is up at an ungodly hour to be with us. thank you very much for joining us. really appreciate it. >> it

one tea party in rockford, illinois could have a different view than a tea party in wisconsin. similarities are that we want to get our country back on track economically. we want to recognize that the government's making promises that it just can't keep and we need to get serious about our debt and the deficit in the country or we'll surrender sovereignsy towards bond holders. important issues. >> let me ask your party, i aindustry with a lot of republicans, grew up in a republican family. i was a kid, i was a republican. i completely understand. >> what happened to you, chris? what happened, buddy? >> well, i studied the issues. smaller government, less taxes. they're popular ideas. aye understand the appeal of those. for a long time donald trump was the leader in the polls among republicans simply because he challenged the president's legitimacy as an american. there is an appeal until your party for birther stuff. it's gone on and on. the president had to go out and show papers to shut it down. what is it in your party that was so focused has you made donald trump your fron

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i look for the same thing that the lady from rockford called about.i take the best thing for me system. i think in america, we have to stop this dichotomy of either you are on the rider on the left. i just think that we take what is best for me system and reform and make it into our own. host: what you think about the president's chances for reelection? caller: it will be a tight race. i do not think he will be reelected. i voted for obama in the last election, not sure if i will vote for him again. but there's no real competition on the right. i like ron paul as a person but would never vote for him. i think it will be a tight race. host: who would you like to see in the race? caller: however prefer a third- party candidate, someone who supports a green party like ralph nader, someone on the extreme -- not on the extreme but on the left. host: a couple of e-mails. pat from new hampshire. cranston, wisconsin, you're next. independents only for this phone segment per we're looking at the 2012 campaign from your perspective. caller: i am surprised that

hawkeye belonged to navy seal john tumelson, a native of rockford, iowa, he was one of 30 servicemenwn in afghanistan on august 5th. now the university of iowa planning to honor that navy seal by using his dog, hawkeye. >> that's great. >> meanwhile, tuition costs are soaring and savings are dwindling. now with kids heading back to school this time of year, parents are asking themselves, how are we going to pay for college without going into debt? and this is good news for me because i now have two kids in college. >> and joining us now is personal finance expert dave ramsey with all of the answers, as he always does on wednesday. good to see you, dave. >> good to be here, thanks for having me. >> all right. so we've been doing this little quiz today, pop quiz for people out there. even though it's still summer break. do you spend more on daycare or spend more on college? what's the answer? >> well, daycare is awfully expensive and it is every day and usually there's a lot of kids involved rather than one kid. so i don't know that that's exactly going to be a fair comparison. the ave