susan moss, renee rockwell, john burris.an moss, now i understand the more i hear about this case why the girl was a no show in court today. how dare they go to a judge to even ask that she goes back to the home where she allegedly lured a 9-year-old little girl to her death. walk free. back in the same neighborhood. >> let her go, oh, heck no. i have to tell you something. lured back by a criminal? any type of juvenile punishment is too minimal. this girl is going to be tried as an adult. she's going to get an adult sentence. i don't care how many psychological tests you throw at that judge. it will be in an adult court. >> that hearing is scheduled in the next weeks. will this 15-year-old girl face up to adult trial on an adult crime? that crime? allegedly premeditated, planned malice murder of this 9-year-old little girl. her little sister's playmate. >>> we are switching gears. more out of the balloon boy story. you know, you think you've seen it all. take a look. >> bradford. >> oh, no. >> hi, baby. bradford. hey. hey,

susan moss, renee rockwell, john burris.an moss, now i understand the more i hear about this case why the girl was a no-show in court today. how dare they go to a judge to even ask that she goes back to the home where she allegedly lured a 9-year-old little girl to her death. walk free. back in the same neighborhood. >> let her go, oh, heck no. i have to tell you something. lured back by a criminal? any type of juvenile punishment is too minimal. this girl is going to be tried as an adult. she's going to get an adult sentence. i don't care how many psychological tests you throw at that judge. it will be in an adult court. >> that hearing is scheduled in the next weeks. will this 15-year-old girl face up to adult trial on an adult crime? that crime? allegedly premeditated, planned malice murder of this 9-year-old little girl. her little sister's playmate. >>> we are switching gears. more out of the balloon boy story. you know, you think you've seen it all. take a look. >> bradford. >> oh, no. >> hi, baby. bradford. hey. hey,

. >> put rockwell up. renee, you and i have both handled cases that touched on defacts.ou know one of the first questions they ask is how many children do you have. one of the first questions. >> nancy, the father of this child cannot beat himselves up. >> nobody asked him to. it's not his fault. >> he's upset about it and tried to do the right thing. it's down to resources. dss -- >> put her up. okay, did you hear that ripka. renee says it's resources. i think somebody didn't bother to pick up the phone and do their job. what about it ripka? >> at the end of the day, if the father thought the mother was on drugs or involved in drugs, he would not have given her another opportunity. she doesn't sound like she's on drugs nor does the way she appears on the tape. >> is that supposed to convince me of something that she didn't sound stoned out of her gourd when she called 911. it was a planned phone call. she kept it together for the three minutes she was on the phone call. >> there's no history of drug abuse. >> correction. back to you malina schiavo. isn't it true, we hav

i want to go to renee rockwell and alan ripka. why the delay in the murder charges, renee? are trying to decide where the murder actually took place. they need to hurry up. both of these individuals have bonds. >> i'm sick about that. >> if they make the bonds, they're out of there. >> i'm sick about that. the reality is, renee, one has a $50,000, translation, $5,000, one has $100,000, translation $10,000 bond. look, if she was selling her daughter for a drug debt on a hit of crack, she doesn't have $10,000. she doesn't have two pennies to rub together. >> nancy, maybe not her, but he's out of there. if somebody goes to a bonding company and makes a promise, he's out of there. >> you know what? you're right, renee. i think the bond is way, way too low. i don't know what that judge was thinking. to alan ripka, defense attorney, new york. another reason they may be waiting on the formal charge of indictment, because they may be researching aggravating circumstances. they are not afraid of the death penalty in north carolina. >> they certainly are not. on the other hand, if th

nancy, that too is interesting to me. >> we'll be back with renee rockwell, atlanta. joe lawless, veteran trial lawyer, renowned out of the philadelphia jurisdiction. quickly to tonight's salute to the troops. nebraska friend wendy lundeen, saluting her 85-year-old father, a p. omptle w. during ww ii, also a korean war vet. >> we want to leave a message to our dad thanking him for being so brave in world war ii when he was captured at age 20. we want to thank him for his contribution to all the freedoms we enjoy in this great country and we just want to tell him we are so proud of him and that we love him. >>> surveillance cameras from the sam's club in bentonville, arkansas, captures louise bishop and her daughter, christina, finishing their shopping and leaving the store. police stay the pair have been missing ever since and they suspect foul play. >> straight out to karen stark, psychologist. karen, they're right. something renee and joe lawless mentioned. when you're getting your groceries out of your car and you're trying to get them in, you're not paying attenti

the potential closing of rockwell. you can't just say it won't make any difference. it will. it is part of the unraveling. >> let me just share a little further tidbit about colby. it is so much further down that line. this woman sarah shared with us, she went back to colby and it was christmas of 2007. she stood in the main street on saturday afternoon for three hours. and she met one person in three hours. she said to -- the bank had hiked christmas music over the loudspeaker and it was just echoing off of this empty town. it was the eeriest thing she ever saw. a very poignant way of giving you a window on what can happen when you don't think about what the future can hold and don't take action. we are trying to get started here. >> i have a question. on the research you have done was basically on the group that graduated in the 80s and 90s, that is when the computer age was just coming about. when you are in high school you did a little bit but not a lot. really the big wide web and social networking come around you. do you see that changing things and how would you see th

think things have happened here that have had a loss of looking inward, the potential closing of rockwell. you can't just say well, it won't make any difference. it will. it's part of the unraveling. >> right. and that, again is -- let me just share a fervor tidbit about colby. i feel like i am harsh on colby kansas but it is so much further down that line. and this woman, sarah, she shared with us while she was doing her project she went back to colby and it was christmas of 2007. and she stood on the main street on a saturday afternoon for three hours and she met one person in three hours. she said the bank had piped christmas music coming out on a loudspeaker and it was just kind of a cooling off the town. she said it was the curious thing she ever saw. again, a very poignant way of sort of giving you a window onto what can happen when you don't think about what the future can hold if you don't take action on what we are trying to get started here. >> i've got a question. on the research that you've done was basically on the group that graduated in the late 80's, early 90's. and that i

. >> renee rockwell and joseph lawless. author of "prosecutorial misconduct." first to you, renee., based on what the neighbor is saying, that sound being at 3:00 a.m., her story is not matching up, nancy. first of all, she's not going to take a polygraph and secondly, she needs to quit talking. >> i don't know how much she's been talking. joe lawless, you have handled plenty of cases revolving around homicide, missing people. what's your advice? >> i'm advising them to not talk anymore, obviously. they are the focus of the investigation. there doesn't appear to be anyone else. you have seen the size of the trailer. six people in that trailer. if someone walked in and took the child, they would have been heard and seen and noticed. police are focusing on these people at this point. and my advice at this point, as their lawyer, not as a concerned citizen about this child, but as their lawyer, i would tell them to shut up. >> i'm sure the both of you would. out to andrew j. scott, former chief of police, boca raton, florida. andrew, thank you for being with us. there has been steady

host: this is not norman rockwell? guest: exactly.he myth of america as a place where there are these family farmers goes back to the days of thomas jefferson, it has always been held up as the ideal, the bedrock of american values. less and less does that actual situation exist. host: what does that mean about how congress funds the forms? who operates and pays for it? guest: there are still family farmers, just fewer. the problem is that congress is operating in many ways, according to the stereotypes and myths, allocating billions of dollars in funds to help these areas of the country, many times they're putting up the money in ways that are not helping the people that they are intending to help. broadband is one example. they think that they are sending the money to help family farmers, but the truth is that those people are few and far between. host: our guest is clea benson, who wrote last month about "the myth of rural america." our phone lines are always open. for republicans, 202-737-0001. for democrats, 202-737-0002. for ind