we find john hagge, rod parsley, there will be a subset that overlap with the christian right. for the most part they don't need to talk nuts and bolts with politics because god ever offered them a end-run around systems that oppress them. they seed need to get serious about their faith and doors will open. >> host: when did this prosperity gospel and movement start? >> guest: postwar revivals of the 1950s. these pentacostal's intent revival alists. twice that show up in small towns, put up giant canvas cathedrals and attracts hundreds, sometimes thousands of people. in the postwar years these have traditionally been healers. someone like oral roberts would anointing in his right hand. these were usually people who people came to be healed from all kinds of diseases. after world war ii we find number of diseases that need to be healed in this way really reduced, mass vaccinations. there is sense of really those aren't quite things we need from preachers. so there is developing confidence that they have, a new vocabulary that springs up of more racklous billfolds that multiply o