rod rosenstein says he was in the dark. james comey was a part of that meeting.he order to carry out the plot. somebody did the dirty work. getting kevin clinesmith who did this, was he in the line of command with james comey? we need to call james comey in, have him say did he have kevin clinesmith do this or was he on the receiving end? somebody is not telling the truth here and we're going to begin to get through it through the work of general durham. gregg: you know comey will play deaf, dumb, blind, gee, i don't remember anything. clinesmith though i think may be the key. you know may squeal. he may be the rat. do you suspect he has a cooperation agreement to help during ram? >> i would think from the comments his attorney that he have some type of agreement. i do not know. i do not have conversations a part of this. that will be left to the oversight. i hope we bring james comey in in september. he was a part of the january 5th meeting. we have people at the fbi and in the doj that seemed to know what was going on even though rod rosenstein and sally yates

rod rosenstein said i wouldn't sign the warrant if i knew then what i knew now.went rogue, he set up general plan for, as you say, to manufacture a crime. what's the take away here? i may set on top of one of the most corrupt investigations, crossfire hurricane's in the history of the fbi, and the rats are jumping ship. bad day for jim comey. >> sean: that i agree. and also, she puts in that january 5th oval office meeting, she puts the logan act, which nobody's ever been prosecuted for, been in existence since 1799, she puts those words in the mouth of jim comey. >> here's what i can tell you. if comey is riding a book it should be called "rogue." the best way to describe his tenure as fbi director is he was rogue. he didn't know the dossier had basically proved to be unsound by the russian sub sores interview in january. my goal was to prove that he did know when he got warrants against carter page anyway. here's the point. they are running away from cross fire hurricanes. there will become a time to sell your book. you can come to the judiciary committee until

do you agree with rod rosenstein's analysis in that memo? >> i will not weigh in on a successor and the decision he made. >> you are not going to answer my question. >> i don't think it is appropriate me to weigh in on that. >> i'm not asking you to weigh in. i am asking you to answer a question about the highest levels of the department of justice and whether this is the new norm or whether director comey violated those norms and his dismissal was justified on that basis? you have no opinion about that? >> i'm not going to weigh in on whether deputy attorney general rosenstein's memo was accurate or not but i will say i was concerned about the time how balance to write to comey may have been on the clinton case. i was concerned that was used as subterfuge for the real reason to fire. >> it strikes me director comey was out of control and as his direct supervisor i assumed you would be concerned about that and might have called him to task for that and asked him to change his conduct. senator? >> mister yates, welcome back. and let me congra

and in fact, what has come to light is that rod rosenstein, the deputy fbi director had actually curtailed it and told bob mueller that he could not follow those personal threads if he unearthed anything. and i'll just read a portion of this from "the new york times" for you. mr. rosenstein concluded the fbi lacked sufficient reason to conduct an investigation into the president's link to a foreign adversary. mr. rosenstein determined that the investigator were acting too hastily in response to the firing days earlier of james comey of fbi director and suspected that the acting bureau director who approved the opening of the inquiry, andrew g. mccabe, had conflicts of interest. your response? >> okay, so, before i address mr. rosenstein's comments specifically, let me just say that in may of 2017, we had information to indicate that a threat to national security might exist. that threat being, specifically, the president's potentially damaging relationship, financial ties, what have you, with the government of russia. that's essentially the counterintelligence doomsday scenario, to have a

now based on what we know and andrew mccabe said it, sally yates said it, rod rosenstein and sally yates sign those warrants today, we know the fbi knew beyond any doubt that it not only was that dossier, without the dossier they both say there is no fisa mortgage. they knew it was false, they were told it was falls, the law requires them to go back to the fisa court. i just see premeditated fraud against the court and i wouldn't even lie before judge judy, mr. attorney general, i think they throw away the key in my case. >> when we feel we can prove a crime beyond a reasonable doubt it will be charge, i can tell you that. >> sean: let me ask you about mail in voting, i pay very close attention to your interview with mark and those that want to experiment with different ways of voting, they want to do this now with 82 days to do go before the election. i don't have confidence in government to fulfill many promises that all, doesn't it lend itself to great opportunity for fraud? >> yes, i think it is grossly irresponsible to be doing what the democratic party is doing now. we've had very

. >> gillian: there have been hearing with general rod rosenstein and sally yates who admitted she wouldn't have signed off on carter page had she known them what she knows now. listen. >> do you regret the fact that you signed applications that contained false and misleading information? >> i -- was the f.b.i., fisa application that was inaccurate. that is not our responsibility to the fisa court. >> gillian: chris wray has 10 days, as you point out, bill, to gather bureau records relating to crossfire hurricane and get to the committee. national security sources tell us that is a tall order, a lot of information to get together in 10 days, but they say it can be done. bill. >> bill: the beat goes on, gillian turner. the coronavirus killed thousands in nursing homes and families want answers. the governor andrew cuomo is rejecting independent investigation into what went wrong and we'll tell you why in a moment on that. one of these women might make the cut and might be on the ticket. what we're learning about the top contenders for joe biden. ♪ come on in, we're open. ♪ all we do is hand

it claims while deputy attorney general rod rosenstein may have publicly instructed mueller to examine links or coordination between russia and the trump campaign, privately, rosenstein ordered mueller to conduct only a criminal probe. this new recording is only fully illustrating the narrow work that mueller was doing, likely to fuel scrutiny from democrats who say the president's ties to russia have never been fully investigated. >>> millions of americans who have to pay rent this week, and don't have the money because of the pandemic. tens of thousands of new layoffs announced, is any stimulus on the way? i'm a verizon engineer, and i'm part of the team building the most powerful 5g experience for america. it's 5g ultra wideband, and it's already available in parts of select cities. like los angeles and in new york city. and it's rolling out in cities around the country. with massive capacity, it's like an eight lane highway compared to a two lane dirt road. 25x faster than today's 4g networks. in fact, it's the fastest 5g in the world. from the network more people rely on. this is

consult -- i am not finished -- did you consult with doj ethics officials before you enlisted rod rosenstein to participate in a charging decision on the subject for which he is also a witness? >> my understanding is he had been cleared already. sen. harris: they had consulted and cleared it? >> they cleared it when he took over the investigation. sen. harris: you don't know whether he has been cleared of a conflict of interest? >> he would not be participating if there was a conflict of interest. sen. harris: you are saying it did not need to be reviewed by the career ethics officials in your office? >> i believe it was reviewed. this seems to be t a flip-f -- seems to be a flip-flop. sen. harris: sir, you are not answering the question directly, did the ethics official in your office and the department of justice review the appropriateness of rosenstein making a charging decision on investigation in which he is also a witness in? >> my understanding is he had been cleared before i arrived. sen. harris: in making a decision on the mueller report? >> yes. sen. harris: and the findings of whe

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question why subsequent renewal warrants were signed, number one, and we also know that both rod rosensteinned the third renewal, the fourth warrant and that sally yates assigned one of the warrants, both said knowing what they know now they nev wod've signed it because the bulk of information was the dirty russian dossier so we need to know, that's the biggest corruption scandal ever. >> martha: we've all got used to this rapid-fire news cycle and i think were going to have about ten cycles between now and november 3rd and a lot of things are going to come out in the next couple months. >> i can tell you one thing that won't come out, the "hannity" show was right, our ensemble cast, we break all this down and the mob in the media petal lies, distortion, libel, disparagement and conspiracy theories, when they are going to be held accountable? >> martha: your right and you know what? so much of that was obviously born out in this investigation and for anybody who views all these things tied together, we will see what comes out with the john durham report over the next couple weeks. "live fre

today, former acting attorney general sally yates testified in front of a committee just like rod rosenstein while but then she finally had to admit, knowingle what she knows now, she never would've signed the phony, fraudulent, carter page fisa application based on russian disinformation that was really used to spy on candidate trump and deep into the presidency of donald trump. take a look at how long it took to actually took her to tell the simple truth. >> knowing then what you know now, would you sign that application? >> senator, i would never sign any document -- >> because that document was a, fraud. is that a fair statement? if you knew then what you know now, you wouldn't sign it? >> i wouldn't sign anything if i knew it would contain errors or omissions. >> did that contain errors and omissions? >> yeah, and i would never knowingly sign a document, in 27 years -- >> i believe you didn't know that what you signed was wrong. the question is, if you had known, you wouldn't have signed it, is that correct? >> no, if i had known it would contain incorrect information i certainly wouldn

. >> well, if he's going to give sally yates a pass and rod rosenstein, then the hearings are for naughtnown those applications were fraudulent. they were obviously, on their face, fraudulent. maybe turn over the hearings to senator lee or senator cruz or someone like that. lou: right. yeah. well, there it is. and i had such high hopes for senator graham when he started going after the origins of obamagate. i thought it'd be hard-hitting, and i'm a little disappointed. tom fitton, thanks for being with us, head of judicial watch. >>> that's it for us tonight. few thanks to vice president mike pence. and preorder "the trump century: how our president changed the course of history forever." please preorder at the trump century.com, amazon.com, barnesandnoble.com. thanks for being with us, good night from sussex. >> from the fox studios and new york city, this is maria bartiromo wall street. maria: happy weekend everyone, welcome to the program that analyzes the week that was an helps position you for the week ahead. i am maria bartiromo, welcome to our special program, coming up in a few m

we ended up having this terrible escalation of the fisa abuse with the final fisa warrant that rod rosenstein17 and false pleadings which were included in there by mr. clinesmith along with all the other falsehoods that filled that 100 page document. elizabeth: carter, we're so sorry what happened to you. final question, we have a quick 10 seconds i hate to follow up like this, who exactly was calling you on the phone and terrorizing you? >> well, there were a range of people but i had a lot of, i actually have a, have been based in oklahoma for a long time, a number of terrorizing calls from that numbers in oklahoma and unfortunately i told the fbi about it. i begged them for their help. they did absolutely nothing. then the abuses continued for over half a year later. elizabeth: carter, i wish we had more time. we're so sorry ran out of time with you. will you come back on the show? we would love to talk to you more. get carter page's book, "abuse and power." a terrific guest. a lot of insights. thank you for serving our country. carter page, come back soon, will you do that. >> thank thank

that we ended up having a terrible escalation of the fisa abuse with the final fisa warrant that rod rosensteindings which were included in there by mr. kleinsmith and the other 00falsehoods that peel back the hundred page document. liz: we are soak sorry what happened to you. a final question, i hate to follow up like this. who exactly was calling you on the phone and terror raising you. >> there were a range of people but i actually have been based in oklahoma for a long time, a number of terror calls from numbers in oklahoma and unfortunately i told the fbi, i big them for their help, they did absolutely nothing and then the abuses continued for over half a year later. liz: i wish we had more time, i'm so sorry we ran out of time, will you come back on the show we'd love to talk to you more. get carter's pages book, abusive powers, a terrific guest for a lot of insight and he serves our country, thank you for serving our country. come back soon. >> taken for everything liz, absolutely. liz: up next, top homeland security official consistent ally on the emergency of kenosha wisconsin after sh

look at the testimony of rod rosenstein and sally yates, what was accomplished out of that?se they are slippery, they don't recall things, so you really need to document so that you can question these folks in a deposition from my standpoint and what prosecutors basically asking those questions that are detailed. if you really get to the bottom of all of the corruption that occurred during the transition. >> martha: ron johnson, thank you for your time. good to see you tonight. >> stay healthy. >> martha: you too. thank you. as promised, new york governor accused of covering up his states catastrophic failure to protect the elderly from covid-19. we have all documented this very carefully of how this was handled. for our janice dean, it is a very personal story. she was supposed to testify on this, but then she got cut from the list, and if you have been following her on twitter and the story, you may have some thoughts on why that might have happened. is next. ♪ >> tech: at safelite, we're committed to taking care of you and your car. >> tech: we'll fix it right with no-con

. >> well, if he's going to give sally yates and rod rosenstein a pass, then the hearings are a frauddulent, so he shouldn't have given these folks a pass. maybe turn over the hearings to senator lee or senator cruz, someone like that. lou: right. yeah. well, there it is. and i had such high hopes for senator graham when he started going after the origins of obamagate. i thought it'd be hard-hitting, and i'm a little disappointed. tom fitton, thanks for being with us, head of judicial watch. >>> up next, red storm rising. china's military increasing the level of their aggression in the south china quay, the strait of taiwan as well. michael pillsbury with me next. my new book "the trump century," available for preorder now at thetrumpcentury.com, amazon.com, barnesandnoble.com. stay with us, we'll be right i am totally blind. and non-24 can throw my days and nights out of sync, keeping me from the things i love to do. talk to your doctor, and call 844-214-2424. your bank can be virtually any place you are. you can deposit checks from here. and you can see your transactions and check y

that's the same question that they asked rod rosenstein a couple of months ago and he said, while thereapplication for carter page who was a low level aide to the trump campaign, those things that keyed off the russia investigation were fully justified. i'm certain that saylie yati sa would say the same thing. remember, michael flynn pled guilty to lying to the trump administration. he was fired because he lied to the vice president. and the russia investigation, which they are still trying to discredit, resulted in over 30 prosecutions and the convictions of donald trump's campaign manager, michael flynn, his national security advisor, sxhr michael c and michael cohen, his lawyer. so this is a rerun of the russian investigation being a witch hunt. not only is it not a witch hunt, you would think the senate would be investigating russians and others trying to interfere in the 2020 election. >> paul butler, we have to leave it there. house speaker nancy pelosi will join my colleague andrea mitchell after a short break. y a mitchell after a short break >> tech: at safelite, we're committe

briefing to the senate intel committee, in briefing people like sal lu yates or -- sally yates or rod rosenstein saw anything, so somebody was producing quite a cover hum. and, john -- cover-up. and, jon, as is always the case, the cover-up is worse than the crime they have committed, but with we know that this plan that got cooked up and somebody implemented it, somebody did the dir few work, somebody was -- dirty work, somebody was giving the orders, that it ended up with a january 5th oval office meeting. and when i talk to tennesseans every draw, they are saying somebody -- every day, they are saying somebody better be getting to the bottom of how this thing got cooked up, who said let's give the orders and who carried out the dirty work, and that is what we're beginning to get to. chairman graham's done a great job on this, and you're going to see us continue to push forward on this. jon: looking for that in the week ahead. mary morgan, the book that you and your mother have written is out, "camilla can vote," where do people find it? >> major retailers, amazon.com, camillacanbooks.com. jon

former deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein privately told robert mueller to keep the scope of thetigation to just criminal matters. that essentially stopped any investigation into the president's financial and personal ties to russia that could be considered national security threats. the paper says rosenstein believed the fbi had a mote sk for opening the counterintelligence investigations. quote, mr. rosenstein determined the investigators were acting too hastily in response to the firing of james comey as fbi director and he suspected andrew mccabe has conflicts of interest. joining me is andrew mccabe and a senior law enforcement analyst. he's also the author of "the threat how the fbi protects america in the age of terror and trump." and first, what was your reaction when you heard this report that rosenstein was secretly limiting the scope of the investigation and why do you think he would keep that a secret from you? >> so, as you would expect surprised and greatly disappointed. i, of course, was not present for any private conversations between mr. rosenstein and director

>> not ideal. >> that is an understatement. >>. >> may 9 rod rosenstein your successor wrote a memo with regard to director comey's activities during which he said he did violate the norms and rules of the department of justice and he said since he showed no remorse and is likely to repeat that conduct coagain that he recommended his dismissal. do you agree with that analysis and that memo? >> i cannot answer. >> you will not answer my question. >> is not appropriate for me to weigh in on this. >> i'm not asking you to weigh in on this but answer a question about the highest levels of the department of justice and whether this is the new normm whether director comey violated those norms and his dismissal was justified on the basis? you have no opinion about that quick. >> i will not weigh in whether or not that memo was accurate or not. were comment on how out of bounds he may have been but we were concerned that was against the real reason. >> bad for him to be out of control that is direct supervisor iam concerned that you would have called him to task and ask him to change his conduct

degree to which he followed -- mueller -- to the letter the jurisdiction that was given him by rod rosensteinas hired on may 17th, 2017. you know, he did not look at the -- he did not look at the background of trump's relationship with russia. he looked at the campaign and he looked at the 2005 deal that michael cohen negotiated to build a tower in moscow, but he never looked at what donald trump's historical relationship was with russia. and the question that, you know, so many of us have asked for so long is, what is it about russia that donald trump has been so solicitous of vladimir putin? what does vladimir putin have on him? what are trump's financial interests in russia? mueller felt that was outside his jurisdiction, and it's just part of a larger story of what mueller did not do. >> well, i do want to get to the book right now, but very quickly, i just want to say that it's michael cohen who suggested in front of congress that donald trump was illegally fudging the numbers of the trump organization, and he gave names of people who would know that. and we know he's been interviewed, i

i want to get to the sound bite, rod rosenstein, who succeeded sally yates as deputy acting attorneyeneral, he also testified he would not have approved those fisa wiretaps that the fbi got from the court. let's watch this sound bite with sally yates here. watch this. >> did you read the horowitz report, miss yates? >> [inaudible] >> were you shocked by it? >> i certainly was shocked, yes. >> does it bother you the fisa court rebuked the department of justice and the fbi regarding the carter page warrant application? >> senator, i believe that the department of justice and the fbi have a duty of capped door with the fisa court -- >> do you believe they fulfilled that duty? >> no, i do not believe they did. >> knowing then what you know now, would you have signed that application? >> senator, i would never sign any document -- >> i take that to be no? because that document was a fraud? is that a fair statement, if you knew then what you know now, you wouldn't have signed it? >> i wouldn't sign anything that i knew to contain errors or omission. >> well, did that contain errors and omi

and former deputy attorney general rod rosenstein recently confirmed to this committee that the steele dossier had nothing to do with the mueller investigation either. mueller's investigation detailed sweeping and systematic russian interference in the 2016 election. the special counsel determined that the russian government, quote, perceived it would benefit from a trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, end quote. the mueller investigation uncovered more than 120 contacts between the trump campaign and individuals linked to russia, revealing that the trump campaign knew about, welcomed, and expected it would benefit electorally from russia's interference. the investigation also established that individuals associated with the trump campaign repeatedly lied to congress, the special counsel and the american people to conceal their contacts with russia. we also disagree with president trump and his allies claims about michael flynn, namely, that obama officials including vice president biden, unfairly targeted flynn in order to undermine trump's presidency. the facts are wel

did you agree with rod rosenstein's analysis? miss yates: i'm not going to weigh in on what a successor of mine, a decision he made. sen. cornyn: you not going to answer my question? miss yates: i don't think it's appropriate for me to wait in on this. sen. cornyn: i'm not asking you to weigh in. i'm asking you a question about the highest levels of the department of justice and forher this is the new norm whether director comey violated those norms and whether his dismissal was justified on the basis. you have no opinion about that? i'm not -- miss yates: i'm not going to weigh in on what rosenstein's memo was accurate or not. i will say i was concerned at the time, the guard less bounds comey may have been and the actions he took on the clinton case. i was concerned that that was used as subterfuge for the real reason to fire him. sen. cornyn: what strikes me as, director comey was out of control and as your direct suit -- supervisor he might have called him to task for that and ask him to change his conduct. sen. feinstein: --

did you agree with rod rosenstein's analysis? miss yates: i'm not going to weigh in on what a successor of mine, a decision he made. sen. cornyn: you not going to answer my question? miss yates: i don't think it's appropriate for me to wait in on this. sen. cornyn: i'm not asking you to weigh in. i'm asking you a question about the highest levels of the department of justice and forher this is the new norm whether director comey violated those norms and whether his dismissal was justified on the basis. you have no opinion about that? i'm not -- miss yates: i'm not going to weigh in on what rosenstein's memo was accurate or not. i will say i was concerned at the time, the guard less bounds comey may have been and the actions he took on the clinton case. i was concerned that that was used as subterfuge for the real reason to fire him. sen. cornyn: what strikes me as, director comey was out of control and as your direct suit -- supervisor he might have called him to task for that and ask him to change his conduct. sen. feinstein: --

that's why they find out, lack of curiosity, also from rod rosenstein, same thing.e election, let's wait it out. rudy giuliani, watched, prosecutor by trade, this is what he said. >> what the media has gone from is being highly bias to being involved now in corruption. how do you not cover that? yates' system was valuable. i only disagree with lindsay didn't call comey crime -- criminal. that's disgusting and probably the worst thing ever done by fbi director. brian: by the way, lindsey graham says who is the fbi agent who looked at the source, we found him at brookings institute in america. ainsley: robert ray, he's been wrong on former policy and national security issue. do you remember -- [laughter] ainsley: interviewed about how he will handle china. listen to his answer. >> the way trump -- the way china respond is when we gather the rest of the world and making sure that we are in a position that the world -- that we deal with w.h.o. the right way. that, in fact, that's when things begin to change. ainsley: all right, w.h.o., china. pete: did he mean wto. you

and so whether it's congressional oversight, whether it's rod rosenstein in the position he's in, trying to do his job effectively, but also trying to please the president so he doesn't get fired, that's a difficult tightrope that he makes a lot of people walk, and that's important context as we start to learn more about the decisions that were made by a lot of these people throughout the turump years. >> eli stokols, frank figliuzzi, thank you both so much for adding some context to this new reporting. i'm grateful to talk to both of you. >>> after the break, a major government office charged with the country's national security, making the decision to be less transparent with nine weeks to go until the election, about the election. we'll talk to a senator, next. election we'll talk to a senator, next. want restaurants to open? and schools? want the economy to get back on track? you're not alone. and you can stay 6 feet apart. wash your hands. wear a mask every time you leave your home. choose to join the fight against covid-19. do your part. slow the spread. >>> a shocking move away fr

clinesmith signed off by rod rosenstein, in late -- late june 2017. >> yeah so let's just be clear, about what kevin clinesmith did 38-year-old lawyer fbi sends a note to the cia, was carter page working with the cia, yes, carter page was working with cia. will the get the e-mail does complete 360, before he hands that e-mail over to his superior instead of the truthful answer yes carter page was working with the cia, kevin clinesmith changes it entirely, no, are carter panel was not an asset of the cia, no there was no reason for him to be meeting with the russians, that he was. it is not that he was helping cia. what is really extraordinary here carter in my view is really the media, because all of a sudden out of nowhere you find your name and youring reputation all muddied up in the media as they leaked to media all of a sudden people started to think carter page was some asset of russia tell us what happened. >> well, maria, i what you are saying is absolutely correct but just one slight caveat they were muddying me up but i always -- kept in min

it seems fairly apparent that rod rosenstein and sally yates, at least there's not sufficient proof to and authorized information that was false to a court, but somebody did and whoever those somebodies are, they should be held to account. that's the purpose of the john durham investigation. maria: and we know that the fbi interviewed the so-called sub source, the person who gave the information to christopher steele to put in the dossier. his name is ganshenko. they interviewed igor and what he told them was, o no, we made it up, it was in a bar, it was hearsay, all of that was just hearsay. i didn't say, i didn't say. that christopher steele must embellished. i never said that. they still used it to reup the warrant and reup the warrant. is there criminality there? >> if that information was passed up the chain and people who knew about it particularly those in a position and did, in fact, authorize the fisa application and at least the first or second renewals the answer is yes and i think where you're going to find who knew i think is what you suggest either people rolling other pe

sally yates and rod rosenstein. and both professed that they did not know what was going on.resting that we have that many high-level officials of the justice apartment who don't seem to know anything, which raises a lot of about what was going on at the justice department and how bad is the communication. we are a few minutes before that hearing, we plan to take you there live here on c-span. until then, continuing with jeff mordock. thering this today for washington journal, taking some calls. this is david, in rutland, vermont. independent, good morning. caller: i'm concerned in general about the legal system as per and the fact that the i reallynows combined can muck up the whole ecosystem and never make anything right. what is your opinion about that? guest: i agree. we see that not just in the flynn case, but also cases that will never get the amount of attention. basis for lying and making false statements, how in that type of charges. it's interesting because it's a charge that's rarely used and it seemed like that was the hammer used on everybody to try to get them t

>> the exact same thing i said about rod rosenstein.her gross incompetence or trying to hide something or again he simply doesn't recall. we'll hear a lot of the i simply don't recall. it's easier to say than i was involved in wrongdoing. we need these documents and why i issued the subpoena. >> sandra: quickly. is james comey next? >> well, james comey has an awful lot to account for. he has been pretty slippery. he was interviewed earlier and refused to reup his classification so he couldn't answer certain questions. james comey is no white knight here. he has a lot of cup pennsylvania built in terms of what happened. think of the political nightmare we've gone through over the last three years because of the actions of these individuals. this is again something that needs to be exposed. the public needs to know what happened and people need to be held accountable. >> sandra: appreciate you coming on this morning. come back soon. thank you. trace. >> trace: shake-up in lebanon's leadership a week after a deadly explosion leveled parts