attorney general, working as the right-hand man for another known federalist society member, rod rosenstein isn't that correct? >> i served as mr. rosenstein's principal deputy bill barr didn't name bob muller as a special counsel molar was named by rod rosenstein. that's that's a huge difference. and how this whole thing works >> rod rosenstein was the deputy attorney general in the trump administration and oversaw the muller investigation and his appointment. he happens to be sitting next to me right now. great to have you here as you were named, dropped several times during that testimony. obviously, robert hur also was your deputy when you were at the justice since department with him testifying today. and as you were able to read the transcript of his interview with president biden, do you think it was reflected fairly in his report >> you know, kaitlan rob had difficult job to do here to make a determination about whether criminal charges were warranted and that required him first to determine what are the facts? and some of the facts were ambiguous and it's often the case and they so

i don't know robert hur, rod rosenstein work closely with him. i never have but let's think about what robert hur just accomplished. he pulled off a year-long investigation of the sitting president. he talked to dozens, over 100 witnesses. he put together a 388 page report and he just sat there while 44 political members of congress tried to pick them apart and they didn't find a single factual error or contradiction in his report. he wasn't flustered at all. he stood by his report. he came across to me just as an observer, as completely non-political. he wasn't out there to harm trump are hurt trump or to harm biden or to help biden. and i think he deserves credit for that. it's extraordinarily difficult thing think about the way that robert muller came through his report, right? not as cleanly as this. think about the way john durham came through his report. i think very political, nowhere near as cleanly as this so wrong. >> you don't by adam schiff's argument that the language he used to describe the president's cognitive abilities was unnece

trump justice department as the assistant attorney general working for the right hand man for rod rosenstein? >> i serves as rosenstein's principle deputy. >> then president trump nominated you to -- >> i was unanimously confirmed by the united states senate. >> and there after attorney merrick garland appointed you to conduct a full and thorough investigation of certain matters to determine whether or not joseph biden should be charged with unlawfully removing and retaining classified documents, correct? >> correct. >> nowhere in that order does attorney garland ask you to decide if mr. biden is mentally fit. >> that was not in the report. >> and you published a report. >> your report concluded that after a full and thorough investigation, the evidence was insufficient to establish that president biden had willfully retained classified documents, isn't that correct? >> my judgment was on the state of the evidence, a guilty judgment was not the outcome. >> the biden legal team and the white house fully cooperated with the national archives during the investigation. once the doj opened the in

deputy attorney general working at the right hand man for another known federalist society member, rod rosenstein, isn't that correct? >> i served as his principal deputy. >> and then donald trump appointed you to serve as u.s. attorney for the district of maryland, is that correct? >> president trump nominated me to serve in that position. i was unanimously confirmed by the united states senate. >> after that attorney general merrick garland appointed you to serve as special counsel for the united states department of justice to conduct a full and thorough investigation of certain matters to determine whether or not joseph biden should be charged with unlawfully removing and retaining classified documents. isn't that correct? >> correct. >> nowhere in that order does attorney general garland authorize you ton duct an investigation or issue a report on whether president biden is mentally fit as president, isn't that correct? >> it does not appear in the appointment order. >> pursuant your appointment to conclude your investigation you issued a report published by attorney general garland, correct

was one big difference bill barr didn't named bob molar as a special counsel molar was named by rod rosenstein. that's that's a huge difference in how this whole thing works. i now yield back to the gentleman from alan mann. >> thank you, ms chairman. missed her in your report, you cited principles of federal prosecution and observed that not quote historically after leaving office, many former presidents and vice presidents have knowingly taken home sensitive materials related to national security for their administrations without being charged with crimes. and this historical record is important context for judging whether to charge a former vice president our and our former president unquote. >> why is examining this history so important >> congressman, not one of the reasons that it was important was because it would bear on how a jury would perceive how a jury would decide whether or not criminal willful intent was formed by the person retaining or disclosing the national defense information at issue? >> has there been an exception to this and the history of the nation? and we charged any

bob mueller was named by rod rosenstein. that's a huge difference in how this whole thing works.inciples of federal prosecution and observed that historically after leaving office many former president's and vice president's have knowingly taken home sensitive materials related to national security for their administrations without being charged with crimes. and this historical record is important context for judging whether or not to charge a former vice president, and/or former president.". why is examining this history so important? >> congressman, one of the reasons that was important was because it would air on how a jury would perceive, how a jury would decide whether or not criminal, willful intent was formed by the person retaining or disclosing the national defense information at issue. >> has a been an exception to this in the history of the nation? >> have recharged me former president's? >> as a data my report, to my knowledge there is only one exception of that and that is former president trump. >> given the history, is it fair to say it's preferable not to charge a

bob mueller was named by rod rosenstein. that's a huge difference in how this whole thing works.nd now yield to the gentleman from alabama. >> mr. hur, in your report you cited principles of federal prosecution and observed that historically after leaving office many former president's and vice president's have knowingly taken home sensitive materials related to national security for their administrations without being charged with crimes. and this historical record is important context for judging whether or not to charge a former vice president, and/or former president.". why is examining this history so important? >> congressman, one of the reasons that was important was because it would air on how a jury would perceive, how a jury would decide whether or not criminal, willful intent was formed by the person retaining or disclosing the national defense information at issue. >> has a been an exception to this in the history of the nation? >> have recharged me former president's? >> as a data my report, to my knowledge there is only one exception of that and that is former presi

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