and sir roderick if i can make this point because i think fairly draw attention to the range of different measures. the no-fly zones were causing this difficulty and the trade sanctions were a vital part of -- the trade sections where part of the w. indian programs. the whole point about these sanctions were moving from telling you what you can have then to a different frame work that is much weaker. you can have whatever you like. the trade section is part of this that was breaking under the previous regime was not a peripheral, but an essential part of that framework being valid. the problem was, -- an accurate summary is that containment through sanctions had basically been eroded. these new sanctions from work had been watered down. it was absolutely vital for trade restrictions. it has been written specifically on the sanctions from work and saddam hussein. . . the sanctions from work and saddam and what he does when he comes to the so-called smart sanctions as he said there were seven preconditions to the smart sanctions and then he goes on to explain one of them what actually happe