roderick, a senior leader. he served as deputy secretary of labor in the george h.w. bush administration. he also came up with the acronym tefra, for which people are still angry at him. our old friend has served senator dole in a number of goals from his graduation from ku in 1986 and 2000. those include intern, senior advisor, and body man. in the last capacity, he handled the logistics. every single one of them both in the senate and during the elections campaigns. as we know from mike's visit here last year, he served as the director of vice presidential operations for the mccain mccain/palin director, a position that has enriched him with stories. please help me welcome sheila burke, roderick dearment, and mike glassner to the institute. >> thanks to all three of you coming tonight. it's a great night to talk about senator dole and his accomplishments and him as a an individual. i'd like to ask each of you how you came about working for bob dole and the various roles that you had in his office. rod? >> well, i came to work in 1979 when the senator rose to the pos

. >> warner: monsignor roderick strange runs pontifical beda college, which trains older men for the priesthood. >> having to talk about this issue, even my circumstances, you can feel as if it were sucked into a swamp. we are all tarnished by this. >> warner: on the surface, life at beda appears to follow the usual pattern. but new admittees are much more rigorously screened, and trained strange offers insight into the attitudes that used to prevail among bishops accused of protecting priests over children. >> perhaps he was told, "yes, this man has done wrong, but we all commit sins," and he says he's really sorry and so it was safe to send him back to work. >> warner: but he is critical of the vatican's handling of the issue today: >> it would have been better if the vatican had, so to speak, got ahead of the game because the whole issue is so emotional. the important thing is to say you're sorry and to on saying you're sorry. >> warner: instead, it's been a mixed message from the holy see. at easter sunday mass, the dean of the college of cardinals defiantly defended the pope aga