i'm going to speak on behalf of rodney bogar who's -- >> no, he's part of the request so his time to speak was the three minutes that have already been used. you can speak for yourself if you'd like. >> here's an actual picture of -- >> refer to the overhead. >> actually here's a picture we took of one of the postings that is facing south away from 610 illinois street, as you can see. it's wrapped in cellophane, it's very hard to read the sign and that's actually indicative of some of the other signage that was on there and the condition of the signs in the last sort of three or four weeks. >> i'm the urban forester for more of the landscape projects. i examined the subject trees. i was unable to measure them, but they're in the 24 inch size class at dbh, which is diameter breadth type. >> were you hired by the requester to do this work? >> yes. >> your time to speak was also part of that initial three minutes so unless the board has a question for you, i think that time has already been allotted. sorry. next speaker. >> my name is john ren frank. i'm a recent purchaser of an apartme