one is a citizens advisory group which president karl hasz is a member of as well as rodney fong from the planning commission. we have 8 or 10 other member of the public and city family. we use that group for some hands on testing and feedback of the system. and then we've done presentations to basically all interested parties, stakeholder presentation and that's on an ongoing basis. we will, as we start to roll the system out and do training, we will obviously offer training both for the public and yourselves as commissioners. >> can i get on thateries? ~ that list? >> yes, absolutely. so, just a quick update on the timeline. again to date, we are still -- we're finishing the design of the system and starting to test it. we've been testing for several months now. this spring we will initiate training and additional public outreach and then the current schedule which we will know a lot more about in the next few weeks shows a system wide date sometime this summer. the one big piece that remains an unknown is the data conversion. work especially for the building department. i thought d

week's hearing the planning commission elected commissioner cindy wu as president and commissioner rodney fong as vice president. so, we both contract them on their positions. the apple store was also heard by the planning commission. as you recall at your last hearing, this commission granted a major permit to alter for that location. there were three items that were under consideration at the planning commission. the first was the special use district code amendment. after the hearing, a motion to recommend approval with some very small modifications failed by a vote of 3 to 3. commissioner antonini was absent and then three commissioners voted against. so, without an alternative motion per the planning code, the matter is forwarded to the board of supervisors with a recommendation of disapproval. so, that zoning change will be before the board of supervisors at a future hearing. however, the commission voted 5 to 1 to approve the project, and they also made findings in support of the sud code amendment, should it pass at the board of supervisors. that commission vote was 5 to 1, and that ap