white america was shocked at what they saw police doing to rodney king. black america would have loved to have been shocked by what they saw police do to rodney king. but black america only could have been shocked if what the police did to rodney king was something completely alien to their community experience, was something they couldn't imagine the police doing in their community. there's a rodney king every day in this country, and black america has always known that. everything those cops did this weekend to those protesters they've done to someone else when there were no videocameras rolling. they've done it and they've gotten away with it. they know just how much assault and battery their department will let them commit. they know just how many false arrests their department will let them do. they know just how much latitude their department gives them on abusing citizens. they do it because they know they can. they do it because they know, they know they will get away with it. none of the officers who crossed the line this weekend will be discipli

what bothered me -- it was not only the people hitting rodney king -- but it was the other 19, 20 officers who stood around and did nothing. and allowed it to go on. that bothered me as much. and i was a police chief at the time. one of the things a new chief and parents is the department culture -- inherits is the department culture, which chief suhr is working with, whether you come from internally or externally. sometimes cultures change. what bothers me is when we see evidence like we saw, we can tell the numbers of officers who were allegedly involved in that and put that against the numbers of officers there are in this bay area region or nationally. but it makes good press. and so, what we do is -- including me -- we paid with that broad a brush. i understand what. it is perception, and truth is only 10% fat and 90% perception. -- fact and 90% perception. what do we do to prevent it? we start teaching what our expectations are in the academy. we reinforce those expectations, not just to the academy, but throughout every single daily -- every day, every hour, every minute. this is wh

always really been about race and you know you look at the race riots in tulsa oklahoma in the rodney king riots and or about sports frankly and what's going on now doesn't feel like it's about race it's about capitalism and about political dysfunction in in europe in the united states the u.s. in the u.s. there it's about capitalism now you're one of the people you interviewed in your article suggested. the the u.s. just doesn't do that you know that we don't have the riots about economics and another suggested but we may well be on the verge of it we we were sort of there with the bonus army you pointed out to we certainly were there in the late and the end of the gilded age and after the crash of eighty three and some would argue that we were there that's what the civil war was all about after the great depression of the eighteenth forty's. what's your sense of these cycles and where we're headed well i think that what you're going to have to have to see broad social protests against the system the capitalist system in the u.s. right now is you're going to need a real direct grievance s

joining me now is john byrd who was part of the team who won the jury award for rodney king. thank you for your time. you have a paramedic saying the situation did not make sense when he got there. he is asking conrad murray what medication fist any was michael jackson taking or under the influence of. what story is the prosecution paint something. >> they are trying to demonstrate that dr. murray in fact was engaged in a cover up at the outset instead of being candid. he knew that the drugs he given he should not have been given in the setting he was involved in. he was trying to gather up everything and put it aside and not allow them to really see the type of medication that was given. at the same time he was given the impression that he was working hard to revive michael jackson when it looks like it was too late already and he didn't communicate effectively the status of michael jackson. it appeared to be a cover up going on very, very early. >> i want to play an interview that ann curry had this morning with a representative of conrad murray and he said dr. murray was t

anger--the kind of acres that erupted in the riots of the 60s and the rodney king riots later in theto be sparked by particular incidents. it will take a combination of particular instance to ring that anger to the 4. and of course in the 60s it with a backdrop of a very big movement that tapped into a lot of frustrations and aspirations. i don't see that same dynamic developing now but clearly there's a lot of frustration among lots of people in america and particularly among younger african-americans who tend to have the highest unemployment rate. >> host: next call for ellis cose comes from britain and, florida. >> caller: thanks for your kantor and in sight. i am refreshed and encourage. my question, my belief that racism in america is underground racism and is being revived or becoming more overt since our nation elected its first black president. my question is you mentioned the three groups for generations and believers. what role to its detriment or benefit and benefit has religion played with the black racial dilemma in america? >> interesting question. it is not one that my

. >> i'm thinking of a rodney king moment here. can't we all get along?thank you michael steele. thanks for coming out here. >>> the one thing rick perry fleeds to do in his first republic republican presidential debate. what do they needed to do to come out on top. michele bachmann, mitt romney and rick perry. how do they all have to act tomorrow might to get in? >>> don't forget, you can only watch the debate here on msnbc. this is a unique monopoly tomorrow night. you've got to watch it here to find out what republicans are up to. what a revolt and development that must be. this is "hardball," only on msnbc. [ female announcer ] instantly smooth wrinkles with a shot? wait a second... with olay challenge that. new regenerist wrinkle revolution... relaxes the look of wrinkles instantly, and the look of deep wrinkles in 14 days. ready, set, smooth... regenerist. from olay. >>> tomorrow night republicans who want to be president will take the stage behind me for a debate at reagan library. one republican who won't be here, new jersey governor chris christi

the rodney king approach. let's all do this together and get along. and then there was the real rousing populous you threw in at the end they don't like. has he put it together? >> this president has one thing in common in terms of the people who -- perception of people by people who dislike him and perception of people who like him. at this point in his presidency, people thought he would be stronger and more effective at getting what he wants. i think even his opponents have been surprised he hasn't been able to get through more of his agenda. that's the main perception he's got to change. people react to weakness with meanness and they want to see a president they believe in mostly in terms of his effectiveness. people admire strength even when they don't agree what it's aiming at. >> you're my brother, but you're weak. we'll be back with our coverage. thank you. we'll be right back with our coverage of the president. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is with us with the latest on a possible terror threat that officials say is credible i

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. >> host: is it significant that rage was written during and right after the rodney king incident? >> guest: it's significant in the sense that was a lot of research, which is sort of fed into rage. there was one piece of research in particular, the right, that stemmed from the. which show that middle-class african-americans, a study done by ucla, which showed that middle-class african-americans were even angrier than poor african-americans. after the beating death so many people said to themselves, this could've been me, a random guy stops and beaten. because it had little to do with whatever social status was. >> host: in "the end of anger" what were your research survey methods? >> guest: well, i'm a journalist and were multiple. part of the hard are two surveys. i did a survey, black alumni of harvard business school and i also did a survey of alumni of a program that's been in existence in the mid 1960s that takes people, primarily people of color, from urban areas, largely poor and underprivileged to use the term. and end up going to some program, some of the best prep school

. >> host: is it significant that rage was written during and right after the rodney king incident? >> guest: it's significant in the sense that was a lot of research, which is sort of fed into rage. there was one piece of research in particular, the right, that stemmed from the. which show that middle-class african-americans, a study done by ucla, which showed that middle-class african-americans were even angrier than poor african-americans. after the beating death so many people said to themselves, this could've been me, a random guy stops and beaten. because it had little to do with whatever social status was. >> host: in "the end of anger" what were your research survey methods? >> guest: well, i'm a journalist and were multiple. part of the hard are two surveys. i did a survey, black alumni of harvard business school and i also did a survey of alumni of a program that's been in existence in the mid 1960s that takes people, primarily people of color, from urban areas, largely poor and underprivileged to use the term. and end up going to some program, some of the best prep school