one of the things that came out thehe eruption that was rodney king tragedy was an understanding that not everyone gets along. and that there is not enough dialogue about the realities and complexities of race and racism in our country. those of us in california read the same textbook says children in other parts of of the country, and consumed there for the same racial history, which is largely race-less. so even in a place that is politically more liberal, there are lots of people who are still largely undereducated about the realities and complexities of race. host: southern california might be different also, obviously a large concentration of the hispanic community, but the immigrant communities. vietnamese communities, even more recent communities. has that competition the racism issue there? guest: i don't think it has complicated the issue, but i do think it has created an incredible opportunity for the state of california, and really for the rest of the country, to figure out how to facilitate opportunities for people to learn across racial and ethnic lines and to address som

and rodney king and everything that happened people go in the streets over that and come straight up to you know black lives matter and the way that the democrats relate so that they try to co-opt it but in effect the policies that came out of it will be a bill clinton with mass incarceration after rodney king all the way up to the way people are being treated today in the streets you have this whole country actual constituencies with real needs that are not being satisfied that the public relations effort targets them based on these fake you know identities that are supposed to correspond to the constituencies but because they have nothing to do with policies that these constituencies need their faith and this whole thing is kind of collapsing that's what we're talking about really it's really interesting is that going to go back to you in seattle i mean one of the thing if we go back to the case in new york with alexandra i mean one takeaway for me is that both parties and to a much greater degree with the democrats because they can't get that clinton poison out of their system the

and rodney king and everything that happened people go in the streets over that and come straight up to you know black lives matter and the way that the democrats relate to that they try to co-opt it but in effect the policies that came out of it will be a bill clinton with mass incarceration after rodney king all the way up to the way its people are being treated today in the streets you have this whole country instead actual constituencies with real needs that are not being satisfied that the public relations effort targets them based on these fake you know identities that are supposed to correspond to the constituencies but because they have nothing to do with policies that these constituencies need their faith and this whole thing is kind of collapsing that's what we're talking about really it's really interesting is that going to go back to you in seattle i mean one of the thing if we go back to the case in new york with alexandria i mean one takeaway for me is that both parties and to a much greater degree with the democrats because they can't get that clinton poison out of the

inflicting on do harm and physical torment on the members of the citizenry and the ancient days of rodney king and v.h.s. in the early one nine hundred ninety s. sarah gardner and the digital era of citizen journalists today shared video has forever changed the perspective and reaction to police violence in these united states of america recently in baltimore citizens there will once again treated to another viral video of one of their local police officers twenty five year old arthur williams violently attacking a man he was interacting with during the course of his daily duties many credit the officers resignation with the swift move to prosecute him to the cell phone footage of the encounter going viral here to discuss with us police violence in the age of viral video is author a teacher and baltimore's own. so i want to ask you this is sort of you know how how in your opinion is has viral video and the sharing of video the way we do to. change the official reaction to accusations of police brutality i think this is an important time for us to make a really really strong distinction between

the situation where we saw a rodney king beating was a fairly regular occurrence. i can tell you the number of times i've seen police officers beat somebody because they could. if you look at mark fuhrman into some of the things he says, that was the culture. we had a police officer that was so corrupt that over a couple thousand people got released from prison just because his name was on the arrest report or anywhere in his file if that officer's name that was appealed and they were let out. we had a situation with the sheriff of the la county. he is in prison along with the undersheriff for corruption. so that's kind of purview that i grew up with, and i think it's interesting -- and i think that people have a hard time believing that policemen are violent or corrupt, because the ones who police their community are so much different than the police. and i think i made this analogy often times there is a more collaborative effort. there is a cohesive effort. it's more like the army corps of engineers, whereas they get the marine. and if you look at just like anyt

was a reaction to the unjust verdict in the initial trial for the four white officers who beat rodney king caught on camera and yet justice still couldn't occur at a time when many of these interactions were put on camera. i'd be curious as to your reaction and your experience growing up in los angeles has offered perspective between police and the community and on race generally. >> guest: it's ironic because the situation you're alluding to has played out in this country over 200 times where a person of color has been killed or beaten and no one proving that. those kind of spit situations, specifically race riots, over 200 in our history so it's not new. if you look back at the colonel commission, the commission shortly after the watts fights, the different situation exists now but growing up in los angeles as a result of all the things and theinvestigations, warner investigation , the christopher commission, the los angeles police department was under a moratorium that they were so violent and corrupt and that the feds took over and they had to try to bring them into a situation where i

but the situation will resolve rodney king being beaten was a fairly regular occurrence. i can tell you the number of times i've seen police officers beat somebody because they could. even if you look at mark fuhrman is something see set things he said in the book he was writing, that was a culture. we have police officer that was so corrupt that over a couple thousand people got released from prison just because his name is on the arrest report or anywhere in his file, if the officers name appeared, 2000 and will let out of prison. we had a situation, sheriff of l.a. county, he is imprisoned along with the undersheriff for corruption. that's the purview that i grew up with. it's interesting, i think that people have a hard time believing that policemen are violent or corrupt because the ones who police and their communities are so much different than the ones who police hours. i've made this analogy oftentimes there is a more collaborative effort, there is cohesive effort but it's more like the army corps of engineers whereas come in communities of color they get the mar

but that situation where we saw rodney king being beaten was a fairly regular occurrence. i can tell you the number of times i have seen police officers beat somebody because they could. and if you look at mark fuhrman and some of the things he said in the book he was allegedly writing, that was a culture there. we had a police officer that was so corrupt that a couple of thousand people got released from prison just if his name was on the arrest reports or anywhere in the -- anywhere in his file, if that officer's name appeared, 2,000 men were let out of prison. we have a situation with sherman block, the sheriff of the l.a. county, he's in prison along with his undersheriff for corruption. that's the kind of purview that i grew up with. and i think it's interesting -- i think that people have a hard time believing that policemen are violent or corrupt because the ones who police their communities are so much different than the one who police ours. i made this analogy, often times there is a more collaborative effort, there's a cohesive effort. it is more like the army co

footage of that standoff with the police and of the beating of delbert africa, long before the rodney kingeo. ofeotape terrible bebeating delbert africa as he was beaten in plain view. i remember also alfonso who was then the head of the guardian, the black police officers, probably condemning the police abuse and the mayor at the time frank rizzo going on television and saying, "i want a piece of him myself." could you talk about with the climate was like in philadelphia at that time, the racial climate under mayor rizzo, and also what did move stand for? why were the police and the establishment so determined to stamp out move? move was anuse organization that represented life. wholest basically, this significance of the city of philadelphia one thing to stamp move out is because move represented the fact that we would not stand for injustice. and our believe is about stopping the suffering of life. and because life is what people use to make money on, they exploit life in order to make money, it is big business. enslaving lifelike zoos and enslaving lifelike circuses and enslaving life

by the way, one chapter in my book is quoting rodney king, can't we all get along.ee virginia presidents, jefferson, madison and monroe, and don't think that they are all sitting around holding hands singing "we shall overcome" because there is a lot of friction among the founding fathers. go ahead. i can't see, but i can listen. >> how accurate do you think that the play is? >> how accurate the play is. in the general themes, pretty accurate, and there is a lot of -- and miranda knows that he is not accurate and he knows that washington didn't write to hamilton and say there are soldiers in the field waiting for you and come on back. he knows that hamilton is pulling at the door, please let me leave, please, let me leave. but for there is a lot of literary license, but the general thrust of the experiment and the desire for freedom and the portrayal of washington as a strong charismatic individual, and i liked the portrayal of washington very much. anyone else before we close up shop? one last question, and then we'll -- >> so, back to hamilton and the sort of the

by the way, one chapter in my book is going to be quoting rodney king, can we all get along.us virginians, he completely broke with george mason, edmund randolph and three virginia residents. don't think they are sitting around holding hands singing we shall overcome. there is a lot of friction. among the founding fathers. >> go ahead. >> how active dacian accurate do you think the play is? >> in his general theme it is very accurate. and maranda knows he is not accurate. he knows that washington didn't write to hamilton and say there are soldiers in the field waiting for you, come on back. he knows that hamilton is pulling at the door, please let me leave. but there is a lot of little lori -- literary license. but the general thrust of the experiment and desire for the freedom and the portrayal of washington as a strong, charismatic individual. i like the portrayal of washington very much. anyone else? before we close up shop which in mark -- shop? >> formative ideas around economics, it applies that his. working for the clerk of a trading company kind of made him unique amo

one of the things that came out of the irruption that was the rodney king tragedy was an understanding that not everybody gets along. and there is not enough dialogue about the realities and complexities of race and racism in our country. read of us in california the same textbooks as children in other parts of the country. and we consume therefore the same racial history. which is largely race less, right? even in a place that is politically more liberal, there are lots of evil who are still largely underage dated about the realities complexities of race. host: southern california may also be different in as it is a large concentration of hispanic community. but the immigrant communities, and even other more recent , has thatcommunities complicated the race is an issue there? caller: i don't think it -- guest: i don't think it has complicated the racism issue but it has read at an incredible opportunity for the state of california and the rest of the country to figure out how to facilitate opportunities for people to learn across racial and ethnic lines and to address some of terrible

you may think of it as a rodney king question. why can't we all get along. more importantly, if there frombvious then if it's cooperating, if everybody tried to drive on one road or the other, nobody would get anywhere and there would be tens of accidents. so having a set of rules in which in this country, you drive , easy.de of the road the internet, the same thing. it should be possible to have lots of benefits and we should be able to develop common sense intelligence, mutually beneficial rules of the road. the problem is that people are people. they don't trust each other. when they form into groups they fight with other groups and everybody thinks everybody is out to screw them. and soon, the wonderful discussions that you just talked about where everybody gets together to decide how to regulate this or the common good, if that project works well -- and it did for a while. things can move forward but if it starts to break down as it has been breaking down in the last decade or so then people start to say, is it really worth reading founding a global con

this was april 8 march that rodney was in caretta king went in carried on his legacy in continued toork for labor rights and women's rights and things he would've done if he would've lived. the great boycott. cesar chavez. the movement has gone on. about unions and ordinary -- organize workers as well. and this is kind of where i am. as soon as i got there i will be put in jail just like everybody else. this is a jail that i was in for three weeks. this picture ends up in my fbi file. i did not know that. it's another case that we worked on. one of the myths is when king died things ended. no actually the accelerated. in memphis they certainly did and all around the south south in the country they certainly did. how do we remember king. they know what this was about. workers know it. i love this picture. in front of the lorraine motel when it was ready to be closed down. it probably was closed down at this point. i will stop to take it and make a few comments. opened up for a few questions and discussions. [applause]. mike is with some tremendous work because i think oftentimes we ha

and rodney king and everything that happened people go in the streets over that and come straight up to you know black lives matter and the way that the democrats relate to that they try to co-opt it but in effect the policies that came out of it will be a bill clinton with mass incarceration after rodney king all the way up to the way its people are being treated today in the streets you have this whole country actual constituencies with real needs that are not being satisfied that the public relations effort targets them based on these fake you know identities that are supposed to correspond to the constituencies but because they have nothing to do with policies that these constituencies need their faith and this whole thing is kind of collapsing that's what we're talking about really it's really interesting is that going to go back to you in seattle i mean one of the things we go back to the case in new york alexandria i mean one takeaway for me is that both parties in too much greater degree with the democrats because they can't get that clinton poison out of their system there a

by the way, one chapter in my book is going to be quoting rodney king, can we all get along, george washington breaks with five phageous virginians. mason, randolph, and jefferson, madison and monroe. don't think they are sitting around holding hands swinging "we shall overcome". there is a lot of friction among the founding fathers. go ahead? i can't see, but i can listen. >> how accurate do you think the play is? >> how accurate the play is. in its general themes it's pretty accurate. there are lots of -- it's -- and miranda knows he's not accurate. i mean, knows that washington didn't write to hamilton and say, there are soldiers in the field waiting for you. come on back. he knows that hamilton is pulling at the door, please let me leave, please let me leave. there is a lot of literary license but the general thrust of the experiment and the portrayal for leader ship -- and the portrayal of washington is strong. i like the portrayal of washington very much. anyone else before we close up shop? one last question. and then we'll -- >> so back to hamilton and his sort of formative ideas aroun