went to see william hague because i wanted to give him £5 million, i was taken in by my friend rodney leachas doing this and i ended up saying, if i was offered a peerage, i should reject it and further, i was stupid enough to say i want no influence at all over the cabinet or over your policies. i think you changed your mind about that over time. yes. it interests me given your background that you've said and again the book you discussed it, that your views of broadly libertarian, you are right of centre when it comes to economic policy—making. "i am right wing economically. "the critical point i suppose is that i would be in favour "of being not at all kind to those who do not have a job "unless they genuinely couldn't get one." "i would be more kind to those who have low—paying jobs. " it seems to me there is an irony in that being a pillar of your political thinking went for much of your life, albeit you made a lot of money out of gambling, but you spent much of your time at card tables and racetracks. i'm just saying that it's important to encourage people to get a job and to work for