>> laura: rodney scott, i know you know him. i have interviewed him so many times including at the border at san diego. he said what we are saying, contrary to what the bleeding heart media types, most of whom will not sponsor illegal immigrants if they had to personally guarantee their economic independence, they would never do it, but they talk a good emotional game and you see the pictures, the sad picture of the people playing. rodney scott knows this sector better than anyone, said this. >> what i saw on the border yesterday was not people walking up to border patrol agents masking to claim asylum. they were chanting, waving a honduran flag and throwing rocks at the agents. if they were truly asylum-seekers, they would have just walked up with their hands up and surrendered, and that did not take place. >> i know rodney scott. he's a great american patriot. the border patrol sent the tear gas out. they didn't send it on women and children. the wind drift and that happens. however, nbc did a great story. they interviewed tha

<rodney scott/ chief patrol agent, san diego sector border patrol> there were some sections that had the dilapidated border wall that was made out of scrap metal the military gave us. the group breached a couple sections of that, actually tore down one small section.nat the group immediately started throwing rocks and debris at our agents, taunting the agents. // they deployed tear gas to protect themselves and to protect the border." no one wants any border officer to be i danger but from what we know, this was an overuse of force. i mean, there are women and children out there. using tear gas in this situation does not seem justified. "are you comfortable tear gassing children? like police on the border?" "they're not, as you know, they're not. they had to use because they were being rushed by some very tough people.the shutdown lasted five hours ... stranding thousands of drivers as the migrants streamed by.

>> laura: rodney scott, i know you know him. i've interviewed him including town at the border in san diego. he said what we're seeing contrary to what all of the bleeding heart media types, most of whom would not sponsor illegal immigrants if they had to guarantee their economic independence, they would never do it. rodney scott knows this sector better than anyone. he said this. >> what i saw on the border yesterday was not people walking up to the border patrol agents and asking to claim asylum. they were champion and throwing rocks at the flag. if they were asylum seeker's, they would have walked up with their hands in the air. that did not take place. >> you send the tier gas out. they didn't send out women and children. the wind drifts. that happened. however i wanted to shout out to nbc. they had a great story. they interviewed the woman and she said she was coming in the country to join her husband ill heelly in louisiana. exactly what i said. people are coming to get a job or rejoin loved ones. >> laura: it is a big lie

<rodney scott/ chief patrol agent, san diego sector border patrol> there were some sections that had the dilapidated border wall that was made out of scrap metal the military gave us. the group breached a couple sections of that, actually tore down one small section.nat the group immediately started throwing rocks and debris at our agents, taunting the agents. // they deployed tear gas to protect themselves and to protect the border." no one wants any border officer to be in danger but from what we know, this was an overuse of force. i mean, there are women and children out there. using tear gas in this situation does not seem justified. "are you comfortable tear gassing children? like police on the border?" "they're not, as you know, they're not. they had to use because they were being rushed by some very tough people.the shutdown lasted five hours ... stranding thousands of drivers as the migrants streamed by.

let's hear a little bit of what rodney scott from the cvp had to say earlier this morning. >> when the threat is to our personnel or to protect others, you have to do what you've got to do. what i find unconcionable is that people would intentionally take children into this situation. what we saw over and over again yesterday was that the group, the caravan as we call them, would push women and children toward the front and then begin basically rocking our agents. >> reporter: now most of the 42 people that they say were arrested were adult males but there were women and children amongst that group, as we just heard rodney scott say. the cvp was prepared for this. they knew there was going to be some sort of demonstration, protest. extra personnel were put on the border. normally about 100,000 people cross this border every day. yesterday four to six hours, this border completely closed down. huge cvp presence. helicopters up in the air. they regained control of the situation. listen, this is what president trump said last week he was going to do. he said on thursday, listen, if we fee

. >> anthony: rodney scott, a man sought after all over the world for some of the finest whole hog barbecuehis for 43 years. burn barrel, fresh coals, slow, slow, slow-cooked all night in the pit. there are no shortcuts. this ain't a craft, this is a calling. look at that. >> rodney: yes. >> anthony: oh, man. >> rodney: got to have a little bit of white bread with it. >> anthony: yeah, at least no doubt. see this is what everybody always gets wrong in new york. you serve cornbread with barbecue? which of course falls into crumbles. yeah, you've got to have that. >> sean: look at that. this is what we call pork spaghetti. >> rodney: gotta have some of that. >> anthony: man, that sauce is nice, too. it's just perfect, right? >> rodney: vinegar and pepper. >> sean: yeah, so good. >> rodney: that's my dad's recipe. >> anthony: do you do not the standard south carolina mustard dressing at all? i'm sure people are going to be pissed at me about this because feel strongly about these things, but i was not liking that mustard thing. >> sean: oh, i can't stand it. >> rodney: around here you scream m

. >> chief rodney scott we appreciate you being with us this morning. it's early out there. you have have a lot of work over the last 24 hours and a lot more work to do. we appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me on this morning. i really appreciate it. >> that was so helpful, john. so helpful to get information directly from the source. let talk about it and bring in "new york times" op-ed columnist, ana navarro and legal analyst jeffrey toobin. having chief scott there tell us what happened is helpful. new information, 42 people did cross the border, instantly arrested by border patrol agents and arrested, i assume sent back or jailed. this is a problem. he just spelled out exactly why they have their hands full and what's going on at the borders and so when you hear president trump say would it be very smart if mexico could stop the caravans long before they got to our southern border or originating countries would not let them form. it is a way they get certain people out of their country and dump them in the u.s. no longer. dems created this problem. no crossin

brian: rodney scott with the u.s. border patrol. he joins us with the latest. eterrent. turns out a whole group going around the wall. how far do they have to travel to get around that barrier? >> that's a great question thank you for having me on. we are in the process of upgrading the legacy dilapidated scrap metal fence with a new border wall that project is ongoing. currently, within a couple hundred yards of the san ysidro port of entry going to the east, we have that old fence that's only a few feet high. then we have about nine miles of the new border wall completed. and then, again, less than 14 miles away from the beach, we have no fencing whatsoever. brian: unbelievable. inexcusable. steve: talk about this member who he identified himself yeah, i used to be in ms-13. 29-year-old jose villa hobos jabel. he was caught in calexico area, el centro sector. was he part of the caravan and went out that way or from one of the other caravans? >> it's hard to say to be quite honest. one of the best ways we identify the caravan members is by their own admission.

amy: that was the chief patrol agent of the border patrol's san diego sector rodney scott. later he acknowledged none of his agents w were seriously injured. pedro rios, if you can respond to what he said? in this excuse the trump administration has used saying it is mainly men, but than acknowledging it is children but trump saying the gas is safe. >> it is inexcusable and completely unwarranted that the border patrol would resort to this sort of violence. it response to is part of the political fear that the trump administration is theng to configure that border community is out of control, that there is unnecessary response of violence that they need to respond to buy bringing troops to the border. it fits the narrative the trump administration wants. they want more money in their budget for border walls. this absolutely will be partrt f the debatete that will be incomg with the continued resolution ending on december 7. so the continuation of that discussion will surely be impacted by some of the images manufacturethe crisis the trump administration is building and are

steve: rodney scott, chief san diego sector patrol agent. ikileaks. jillian has that and more. jillian: fox news alert. wikileaks responding to the possible indictment against julian assange from the u.s. assange's attorney says the notion is quote, incredibly dangerous precedent and a grave violation of press freedoms. documents filed in virginia saying doj is preparing charges under seal but a district court spokesperson says assange's name was not intended to be included in the filing. >>> a homeless veteran and a couple face up to 10 years in prison for allegedly fooling the nation to get rich quick. prosecutors say they made up a story about the homeless vet spending his last 20 bugs on gas for the woman who was stranded on the side of the road, leading to a gofundme page that took in more than $400,000. it is believed they met each other at least a month earlier. investigators finding text messages between kaitlin mcclure and a friend, reading quote, the goose part is completely made up but the guy isn't. i had to make something up to m

migrants overwhelming mexican police and blockades, attempting to enter the country illegally rodney scott / chief patrol agent, san diego sector border patrol: the group immediately started throwing rocks and debris at our agents, taunting the agents. and we had two or three agents at a time initially, facing hundreds of people at a time. they deployed tear gas to protect themselves and to protect the border.lee gelernt / deputy director, aclu immigrants' rights project: no one wants any border officer to from what we know, this was an overuse of force. i mean, there are women and children out there. using tear gas in this situation does not seem justified.u.s. officials arresting dozens and shutting down the busiest port of entry along its mexico border. president trump seizing on the unrest,president donald trump: mexico wants to see if they can get it straightened out but we've, during certain times, as you know, closed the border. they're not coming into the united states. they will not be coming in.but not all republicans support a border shutdown.sen. joni ernst / -r- iowa: we would

. >> sean: meanwhile over at fake news cnn, rodney scott had this to say about those who rush the bordertake a look. >> explain the decision to use the teargas, because that is one question i think people had this morning. >> one of our primary missions is to make sure that we keep the border safe and secure. i kind of challenge that this was a peaceful protest or that the majority of these people were claiming asylum. we ended up making about 42 arrests, only eight of those were females and there were only a few children involved. the vast majority of people we are dealing with here where adult males. similar to what we saw the first wave of the caravan that came up about a week or so ago, the group immediately started throwing rocks and debris at our agents, taunting the agents. once our agents were assaultedri and the numbers started growing, we had two or three agents at a time initially facing hundreds of people at a time. they deployed teargas to protect themselves and to protect the border. if they were truly asylum-seekers, they would've just walked up with their hands up and sur

. >> martha: thank you very much, joining me now, rodney scott, the chief patrol agent for san diego,ood to have you with us this evening. thank you for being here. i know that you are very busy. we looked at all of those images on the border, can you explain why it was necessary to use pepper spray on these individuals? >> yes, thank you for having me on. what the agents faced was that we had a report from the mexican authorities that we had a group of about 500 people coming towards the port of entry, supposed to be a peaceful protest, but they clashed with the mexican law enforcement just like they had on the southern border of mexico and just like they had in guatemala and quickly reverted back to using violence to get past the mexican police. we have been preparing for this for quite a while. so we had a lot of our riot control equipment out on the field and specially trained agents on the field. sure enough as soon as those aliens got close to the border, they immediately engage the agents by throwing rocks, taunting them at the border and our agents defended themselves and thos

rodney scott, jefe de la patrulla fronteriza en s diego, advirtió que no permitirían que indocumentados autoridades estadounidenses se pusieron en alerta. fabián: los agentes siempre tienen que estar en alerta. en la frontera nunca sabes cuándo puede pasar algo. hay muchos peligros. carmen: fabián carvajal, vocero de la patrulla fronteriza, dice que la ley es muy simple y debe cumplirse. los puertos de entrada para quienes buscan asilo son los autorizados. ahí es donde tienen personal capacitado para atender las peticiones. no en los mares, desiertos o montañas. para los migrantes, las horas y los días pasan. se registraron alegatos con quienes les ofrecían albergue. >> yo me comprometo a llevarlos al albergue si ustedes desean, les reitero, es para los que gusten. carmen: hubo desencuentros con residentes locales. >> ¡ese no es nuestro problema! >> ¡que el gobierno se haga cargo de ellos! carmen: las autoridades mexicanas tuvieron que intervenir para convencer y guiar a los centroamericanos reunidos aquí hacia otros puntos de la ciudad. hoy, al menos en este tramo de la frontera mexica

the border sector chief rodney scott. >> mexico has already offered asylum to these individuals.ylum claim here unless you fear from mexico will not go well. you will be arrested and prosecuted and be returned to your countries. >> here is the scene yesterday basically individuals celebrating the fact they hit here. also reaching tijuana their goal but goading agents from the top of that fence. i expect we will see that scene played out many times over the next weeks or months. now, t.j. or tijuana residents are organizeing a protest of their own. they don't want them to close the port of entry. that's very important. already the shelters here in tijuana are overflowing with people. 2,500 immigrants are already here waiting in line trying to get into the united states. so all these people got to get in that queue. they'll grow frustrated and try crossing illegally and why the u.s. brought in the military to assist the border patrol. >> jon: william, thank you. >> sandra: heading to the white house now. president trump weighing in on speculation surrounding his cabinet. saying he

so says rodney scott the chief patrol agent for the san diego sector. listen to this.gent dechingsded themselves and those around them by deploying the safest tool we have is pepper gas if you will. pepper-based gas. it's an irritant. there is no long-term effects. i inhaled quite a bit of it myself. i was out there on sunday as well. we did that to protect the crowds. we took this caravan very serious from day one. it's like no caravan we have ever seen before. you've heard reports that caravans happen all the time, that's true but not caravans that have a propensity for this type of violence and not these massive numbers of people. steve: and the president yesterday, as he was leaving the white house. he said very clearly nobody is going to get in this country illegally. jedediah: these border patrol agents cannot be vilified for doing their job. what are they supposed to do. if you have people throwing rocks at you. steve: and hitting you. jedediah: and hitting you. that is an attack. you have to do something to protect. your job is to secure and protected that bord