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all the actions that have been taking place. >> it seems there's always an effort nmodify or change roe v wade. is this another approach in doing so because we haven't seen this kind of a proposal before, have we? >> no. some states have dabbled in this area. mississippi is the first state to put it on for a vote like this. again bishops in mississippi are saying this is bad, they don't support it because they are fearful, again, that the supreme court instead of chipping away at roe v wade will make it more stronger and that's their biggest fear because this law is so outrageous. >> other states would of course be watching to see what kind of progress or what kind of movement there would be with this initiative 26. >> absolutely. >> if it's passed. if there's an amendment other states potentially would say i want to try our hand at our version too? it would open the door for that. >> it would open the door but i promise you if this gets approved there will be immediate legal challenges filed, legal papers, a federal court will stay this. it will never take place in mississippi. we're i

actually, that was not secretary of state hill roe clinton seeing my fraught ninja score. that was her reaction to the news qaddafi had been captured. of course in lebbia the news was met with no less as ton eschment but understandably less restraint. the celebratory shooting of the gun, the chanting of the victory slogans, and of course is that gentleman throwing a baby in the air? (laughter) the dictator is dead! finally the law against throwing babies has been repealed! whooe. i never thought i without say this, take that baby from that man and give him an ak-47. of course, the administration reacted to today's victory with relief and amazement. the libyan people with grat toud and joblation. but for one group, the death of qaddafi the dictator and major sponsor of international terrorism without require more reflection, team to process and figure out how this good news could actually be bad? >> too soon to tell as far as what this means for libya. i think, again, we don't know what these rebels are going to do in libya after they take over. there's a lot of questions.

versus wade before he was against roe versus wade? he was for race to the top. he's for obama care and now he's against it. ( applause ) >> jon: mitt nailed it. can't believe my advisors told me not to get high before this debate. i'm telling you. i'm killing him. holy (beep). if i'm romney, i don't even answer. i just cede my time back to rick perry. "no, no, i cede back to perry. he's doing great. keep going." the third perry debate was even worse than the first two. perry demonstrating an incredible unlearning curve. hey, man, it's early. no harm. no foul. >> rick perry is not prepared for the pressure of the presidential stage. >> you can replace him with a cardboard cut out and not noticed the difference. >> perry did horrible at this debate. >> rick perry sucked the other night. >> you can read it any of those three ways. perry really did throw up all over himself at the debate at a time when he needed to raise his game. >> jon: everything hume says has gravitas even when he's saying, you know, of course, chris, i've been doing

it takes on romney's changing position on roe v. wade. i'm not sure what they're doing, but let's listen. >> i believe that since roe v. wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it. and i support and sustain that law and the right of a woman to make that choice. and that's why as a pro-life republican, i'm in favor of having the supreme court overturn roe v. wade. >> that's a great question, ron, and i think dana's made it, you were alluding to it earlier. what is this attack on romney? is his attack that romney is a conservative? or is it that he doesn't know what he is, because he might be a man of the middle. my worry is that the middle may be where most of the votes are come 2012, and it may not be so smart to say he might be just be a man of the middle, therefore, your man to the voter. >> well, being a man of the middle is one thing, but not being a man of any stripe whatsoever is another. and i think what they want to do is hang that label on him. that this is a guy who will say anything to get through

. >> this clearly violates roe v. wade.et up here, if it passes, is simply a vehicle that will get this delivered to the united states supreme court. >> well, traditionally the pro--life movement has opposed personhood amendments because they think they are too crazy. i'm serious. they think they are going to get roe reaffirmed because they have overreached but you have these people that find personhood an appealing message because they say we have been going incremental and there have been 53 million abortions since roe v wade. this probably not be enforced and if it is passed mississippi which has a high teen pregnancy infant mortality rate will be locked in legislation and it will cost a lot of money. >> explain how this invades the process of invitro fertilization and what it could do to miscarriages. >> if they think a fertize liezed egg is in the person. they fertilize more eggs than they are going to use. >> right. they may end up. the medical definition of pregnancy is when an embryo implants, when a fertilized eggp

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the fact is if roe v. wade fell, most states would actual adopt relatively permissive, if i can ause that word, they keep abortion legal for a considerable period of time. so yes, there's an awful lot of symbolism here. the attack on plannedparenthood is disturbing even for right for lifers. you had on your show a few weeks ago, a right to life democrat and gave a great speech and said, you know, if you defund planned parenthood, defund their services for women, defund their family planning services, you're going to end up with more abortions, not fewer abortions. i hope he's around again to make that speech again when this issue comes up. >> e.j., one last question for you about sort of the distance between republican politics and the way republicans talk to each other and the decisions they make politically that may not make sense in the broader context like this focus on abortion in the house. i wonder if there's also something to be read there in what republicans have decided among their presidential c

versus wade before he was against verse roe versus wade he was for race to the top he's. for obama care and now he's against it. gazans are but every chance we get we do have to play about a big blunder that we will his make or the big three lakh everything will five but back to mitt romney here played a split block by wall street just doesn't publicans another reason to be suspicious of it he's basic he was a good reason to do anything say anything to get elected and last month we told you about him trying to change his image romney's trying to be the every day man now he's flying on southwest airlines eating at fast food joints all on the road and he's making sure that everybody knows about it on twitter and just for good measure we're going to play a clip of romney promising a campaign free of pandering for votes just two weeks ago i think the american people recognize that we're taught a crisis and they want to hear the truth and they can tell when people are being sold and are and are pandering to an audience and you'll see that in politics you know going to see that

versus wade before he was against verse roe versus wade but he was for race to the top he's. for obama care and now he's against it. just never get they got to keep playing it but just because they're not good at debating doesn't mean that they don't have any value in fact i'm not really sure why he's so worried the candidates rick included have target abates into scripted answers they cut it down to thirty seconds of talking points and they like it no matter what question again that is as they slip into their contrived message case in point rick perry at last week's debate then let me ask question governor perry governor perry the fourteenth amendment allows any anybody a trial that illegal immigrants who's born here is automatically american citizen should that change let me address armand's issue that should rather rather go to bed i rather guess the question and answer that i understand that you get to ask questions i get to answer like i want to and herman arming talked about that's actually a response that is very good if you. see what i mean so the bottom line is we ca

versus wade before he was against verse roe versus wade he was for race to the top he's. for obama care and now he's against it. in florida i just never get all and i got to keep playing it but just because you're not good at debating doesn't mean that they don't have any value and i'm i'm not really sure why you so worry the candidates rick included have target of a tension scripted answers they cut it down to thirty seconds of talking points and they like it no matter what question the candidate is asked they slip into their contrived message case and point rick perry at last week's debate and then let me ask or some governor heard every word fourteenth amendment allows and he's anybody a child the illegal immigrants who's born here is automatically american citizen should i change let me address month's issue that should really rather you give it i'd rather you ask a question and answer that i understand that you get to ask questions i get answers like i want to and herman arming talked about that's actually a response that is very good issue. see what i mean so the bo

wade though not the precise holding of roe v. wade.lia, i don't know how that's following precedent. in the event, i think what we need to do is get 5 of our supreme court justices -- this is one of my plans just for laughs to start engaging in conservative so we have a right to a flat tax. we'll have a right to own a rocket-propelled grenade. we'll have a right to free champagne for blondes all kinds of fantastic rights i can think of. oh, i think we'll declare the withholding tax unconstitutional they know our justices can admit it was a joke because liberals can never understand how heinous their policies are until it's done to them and the alternative plan to -- i can say it much more quickly we need a conservative and republican executive who say in response to an insane supreme court ruling, for example, some of the guantanamo rulings under president bush -- i wish he just said thank you for your opinion. the constitution makes me the commander in chief. i am not giving, you know, special constitutional rights to terrorists grabb

wade before he was against roe versus wade.r race to the top, he's for obama care and now he's against it. >> lots of voters witnessed that unfortunate moment. lots. and that's the thing -- lots of viewers equals eager networks hungry to host even more debates. the question is, with so many on tap, when will voter fatigue set in? and is rick perry right? are voters really learning anything new? the "talk back" question today, are there too many presidential debates? facebook.com/carolcnn. >> i'm biased, carol! i say never! never too many! >> my god, there's going to be 18 or more! it's crazy! >> okay. we'll see what folks have got to say. thanks, carol. >>> tens of thousands of people in thailand's capital city are heading to higher ground as floodwaters sweep through the streets. evacuation orders in place all across bangkok. the weekend could be even more devastating. cnn's sara seidner reports the water has started to drain from bangkok's famous grand palace. but that's not the case in other areas. >> when it comes to the re

versus wade before he was against roe versus wade. >> mitt romney has been given a virtual free pass by many of his rivals, attacked at just debate so far. >> some might say because of your past employment with bank capital, somebody who breaks down businesses, destroys jobs. how would you respond to his criticism of your signature legislative achievement. >> can you name all 59 points in your 160 page plan. >> that could change tonight. remember, it was about this time, an october debate when chris dodd made that damaging hit on hillary clinton. i want to go back to romney here. what has been amazing about this is in 2007 and 2008, the republican field didn't like mitt romney. you could tell and they went after him all the time at the deba debates. that's not happening this time. that's got to make the romney people feel good. the down side so far this cycle is that while the republicans are paying a lot of attention, the more attention somebody pays to this race, the more likely they are to support somebody else, at least if you believe the nbc wall street journal poll. cain did be

that is the way it was before roe v. wade. >> thank you for being here. a quick question to follow up on a question posed earlier about funding aids programs throughout the world. the american foreign aid budget is about 0.5% of our national budget. i understand and can respect the decision for fiscal conservatism. one thing i am concerned in terms of looking for candidates is extending a sense of the values that we want to bring throughout the world to help others. i like to know if a romney administration would be committed to keep that at 0.5% of the budget, and if we can get 6 million people on anti- retroviral vaccines, and in terms of funding pepfar and the global fund. >> i will not commit to that funding level. i have not evaluated it in the context of the entire budget and what our priorities would be. but i can say this -- at a time when we are borrowing money to pay for things, and i hope you recognize the significance of this. the idea that we borrow more money for ourselves and our generation, knowing that you are going to be paying for it, y

voter in iowa was not asking about roe versus wade. she was asking about this. >> would you have supported the constitutional amendment to establish life at conception. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> the life begins at conception amendment. these amendments that mitt romney and huckabee say they support. these amendments do not just ban abortion. they ban abortion outright. but in addition to that. if any fertilized egg is considered a person, a miscarriage would be cause for criminal investigation as potential murder. and as that sioux city voter asked about, a law like this could also outlaw some forms of birth control. people facing the prospect of one of these amendments understand that it could potentially ban birth control. these images from the raleigh rally to save the pill, this week. mitt romney must not understand that he says this is what he supports absolutely. the birth control ban. there is one on the ballot in mississippi. that's what it is designed to do. whether or not mitt romney understands his own position, thank

i believe that since row roe v. wade has been the law for 20 years, we should sustain the law and the right of the woman to make that choice. it's long past time for supreme court to return the issue of abortion back to the states by overturning roe v. wade. look, i was an independent during the time of reagan/bush. i'm not trying to return to reagan/bush. well, you can learn some lessons from ronald reagan. ronald reagan rallied america with peace through strength. i'll actually establish something i'm going to call the reagan economic zone. >> he was for abortion rights, now against abortion. in the same other romney era in 1996, mitt romney derided the idea of a flat tax as a, quote, tax cut for fat cats. mitt romney was anti-flat tax in the 1990s. now mitt romney says, i quote, i love a flat tax. this is not a bad habit mitt romney left behind from an earlier stage in his career, disavowing positions he take in the roaring'90s. he's disavowing positions he took in june of this year. in june of this year mitt rom

. >>> before he was before the social programs from the standpoint of he was for standing up for roeversus wade before he was against verse -- roe versus wade -- >> the fact of the matter is the science is not settled on whether or not the climate change is being impacted by man to the point where we're going to put america's economics in jeopardy. >> and they want -- >> anderson -- >> you say you that knew -- >> would you please -- would you please wait? are you just going to keep talking? >> yes, sir. >> let me finish what i have to say. look, rick, i thought -- >> just follow the rules -- >> this has been a tough couple of debates for rick. and i understand that. so you're going to get -- you're going to get testy. >> and that's exactly what i'm going to bring to washington when i go there in november. or excuse me, in january of 2013. problem. in a year when the republican debates are the best show on tv, and i say that as a person with a tv show, rick perry's bad at debates. he's bad at debates. and he's not getting better over time at it. in nurm ke errical terms it looks like

it was before -- he was before the social programs from the standpoint of he was far standing up for roe before he was against roe versus wade. >> reporter: his problems may be explained by a lack of debate experience. tuesday it will be his fourth presidential debate. the same number he participated in over ten years as governor. >> this is black and white different. as a governor and even when he ran for lieutenant governor, he was not a bad debater. >> reporter: perry debated one of his toughest opponents in the 1998 contest against state comptroller john sharpe. he came out strong. >> let me tell you. people of the state of texas are smart enough to figure out who the real conservative is in this race. >> reporter: he held his own in this exchange over a loan program perry oversaw as commissioner. >> the bottom line is that program has created over 4,300 jobs in the state of texas. it's created almost $500,000 worth of economic opportunity in the state of texas. that program has not lost taxpayers of the state of texas one dime. >> the texas finance authority is mirrored $6 million i

you'll find the fog and the low clouds from santa roe sta through napa.e're expecting the visibility to taper off. we're not expecting a significant round of fall. but we'll see a lot of fog drift over the santa cruz mountainsful so you'll be cooler than the hottest cities across the bay area, where traditionally morgan hill and gilroy are two of the hottest cities. this is driving in the onshore flow. as we head through tomorrow it looks like this area will move inland. will we see showers out of it? probably not. especially in the south bay. maybe it will make the fog so thick that it generates a drizzle. that's what we're expecting. a stronger onshore flow through tomorrow. especially particularly. we're going to see cooler conditions on wednesday. down to 72 degrees. so you night need your jacket for just one day this week. then we're going to warm back to the 80s in time for the weekend with a lot of sr. sunshine. i continue to look for the cold fronts. nothing really to make any weather changes for us, at least for a while. i'll let you know when i

madoff spends his down time in jail raefding books, particularly danielle steele roe mabs novels. when he told ruth that he was reading them, she laughed and said, "don't tell anybody. most men don't read that." as for his wife, madoff says that after his son's suicide last december, ruth told him, "let me go." he says they have not seen or talked to each other since. and he added, "ruth doesn't hate me. she has no one. it's not fair to her." she had told him that he had it easier in prison, saying, "you are sheltered in there. no one is judging you." and he said that ruth is on an allowance until the final settlement. she shops in the gap, she says, and lives modestly. about his victims, madoff said, quote, "i understand why clients hate me. the gravy train is over. i can live with that. the average person thinks i robbed widows and orphans. i made wealthy people wealthier." he says he takes full responsibility for his crimes, but he ceadded, "nobody put a g to my head. i never planned to do anything wrong. things just got out of hand. i don't believe i'm a bad guy or stupid." >>