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so roe v. wade and casey, the law has really become sort of part of the fabric of life, and that's one of the things the court will have to deal with here if it does decide to overturn roe, it's going against something that is clearly settled, or at least that many people have come to depend on. the legal standard may not be settled, but the idea that abortion should be legal seems to be largely settled. >> we're going to talk to one of the leaders of the abortion rights movement involved in this case. i know you've been talking to people, too, on the other side of the issue. as you've been out there in front of the court covering these demonstrations. tell us more about that. >> so we've been talking about the viability standard, one of the arguments, hallie that's going to be made by the state of mississippi. the viability standard in roe v. wade is around 24 weeks, right? and i pressed the head of susan b. anthony, which is an antiabortion rights group that has been lobbying for that for the
so roe v. wade and casey, the law has really become sort of part of the fabric of life, and that's one of the things the court will have to deal with here if it does decide to overturn roe, it's going against something that is clearly settled, or at least that many people have come to depend on. the legal standard may not be settled, but the idea that abortion should be legal seems to be largely settled. >> we're going to talk to one of the leaders of the abortion rights movement involved...
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was it an issue in roe? >> oh, in roe, i'm sorry your honor. my understanding is, no, the law there didn't have a viability tag. that was inserted by -- >> in fact, if i remember correctly, and i -- it's an unfortunate source, but it's there. in his papers, justice blackman said that the viability line was actually, was dicta and presumably he had some insight on the position. >> and justice blackman as well pointed out the arbitrary nature of and it the line drawing problems -- >> and then in casey, casey said that was the core principle or the central principle in roe, viability. it said that after tossing out the trimester formula, which many people thought was the core principle. but was viability at issue in casey? >> i don't think it was squarely at issue, your honor. again, it's a little hard not to take the court at its word when it emphasized that viability -- the viability is the central part of roe's holding and say that there are times that we are reaffirming that. we take that where it stands, but the court did not face a law like
was it an issue in roe? >> oh, in roe, i'm sorry your honor. my understanding is, no, the law there didn't have a viability tag. that was inserted by -- >> in fact, if i remember correctly, and i -- it's an unfortunate source, but it's there. in his papers, justice blackman said that the viability line was actually, was dicta and presumably he had some insight on the position. >> and justice blackman as well pointed out the arbitrary nature of and it the line drawing problems...
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when roe v. wade was first founded and supreme court made the decision, it was whether or not something they did was based on the surgical procedure which is in the hands of a medical professional or the hands of your girlfriend. basically, roe v. wade, taking all the other issues out of it, they took the criminality out of it. they would lose their medical license, be convicted of malpractice. they would be removed from the ama, and they would go to prison for the minimum of 2-5 years. by doing what they did, it took the criminality out of it. but only to the clinical level where you'd have to go to a hospital. so the question is that for all this time, the supreme court has founded a very difficult thing if they can overturn it or they can't because it has been on the books for so long. and my question would be even if the supreme court overturns roe v. wade, do we give all this up? host: to john in mclean, virginia, good morning. caller: i agree with the lawyer who called in. this was a consti
when roe v. wade was first founded and supreme court made the decision, it was whether or not something they did was based on the surgical procedure which is in the hands of a medical professional or the hands of your girlfriend. basically, roe v. wade, taking all the other issues out of it, they took the criminality out of it. they would lose their medical license, be convicted of malpractice. they would be removed from the ama, and they would go to prison for the minimum of 2-5 years. by...
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that is not the case in roe and casey. from greg in pennsylvania. >> caller: good morning, stop citing to the washington post on anything. we know exactly what their position is. go to other media sources. it seems to me that this is, this issue, i'm a lawyer, i've done lawyer for 42 years. i'm the oldest of seven kids. my ex-wife would have aborted my third if -- i don't know why she didn't. during the divorce, i found out she was contemplating that. i wonder what he thinks about this. this whole issue of abortion is, it's not all black or all white. it is not. there are good arguments on both sides. the question is, should be, is this in the constitution? that's what the supreme court is all about. they are not another house of representatives or senate. their job, their only job, like an umpire in baseball or referee in football, is it a strike, or not, is it a catch, or not. that is their job. if 70%, according to the washington post and all the liberal cites that you quote all the time, support roe, then what is the p
that is not the case in roe and casey. from greg in pennsylvania. >> caller: good morning, stop citing to the washington post on anything. we know exactly what their position is. go to other media sources. it seems to me that this is, this issue, i'm a lawyer, i've done lawyer for 42 years. i'm the oldest of seven kids. my ex-wife would have aborted my third if -- i don't know why she didn't. during the divorce, i found out she was contemplating that. i wonder what he thinks about this....
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roe v. wade where in the arbitrary ruling for the supreme court in 1973 they made up a new rule saying when a child is viable, not something that is in law in any spot, created that out of whole cloth. tomorrow morning the supreme court will reopen that conversation about viability. it's an important discussion for us to be able to have as a nation and its vital that we talk about it here as well. it is being discussed across the street of the supreme court and there are laws we should discuss your you as well. so for the next few moments there are multiple different senators are going to speak on this one issue. when is a child a child, and when should states have the right to protect their own citizens lives? supreme court made that murky and has the option tomorrow to be able to make that clear. this conversation though will circle around what should the legal standard be and how should we protecten the lives of every citizen, no matter how small they are. there will be multiple senators
roe v. wade where in the arbitrary ruling for the supreme court in 1973 they made up a new rule saying when a child is viable, not something that is in law in any spot, created that out of whole cloth. tomorrow morning the supreme court will reopen that conversation about viability. it's an important discussion for us to be able to have as a nation and its vital that we talk about it here as well. it is being discussed across the street of the supreme court and there are laws we should discuss...
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for those of you who would like to see roe v. wade overturned, (202) 748-8000. to keep roe v. wade, that line (202) 748-8001. , scotus blog covers the daily goings-on of the u.s. supreme court. amy howe writing this piece, majority of court appears poised to rollback abortion rights. she writes it has been nearly 30 years since the supreme court's decision in planned parenthood which reaffirmed the constitutional right to abortion that the court first recognized in roe v. wade. only one justice who participated is still on that court now. clarence thomas, who joined dissent in casey, arguing that roe was wrongly decided and that it can and should be overruled. on terms of the mississippi law, she writes that enacted by the mississippi legislature in 2018, the law known as the gestational age act has never gone into effect from the federal district court in the conservative u.s. court of appeals for the fifth circuit blocked the law, explaining that roe and casey bar states from banning abortions before fetal viability when the fetus can survive outside the womb. mississippi as
for those of you who would like to see roe v. wade overturned, (202) 748-8000. to keep roe v. wade, that line (202) 748-8001. , scotus blog covers the daily goings-on of the u.s. supreme court. amy howe writing this piece, majority of court appears poised to rollback abortion rights. she writes it has been nearly 30 years since the supreme court's decision in planned parenthood which reaffirmed the constitutional right to abortion that the court first recognized in roe v. wade. only one justice...
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roe v. wade let it stand 65% overturn it 28%. what jonathan turley was saying when you look at it as a law as it was decided at the time there are very few constitutional scholars who say it was correctly decided. you might still think abortion should be legal and in the states that could be true, right? the states will be allowed to make their own rules. the overarching roe v. wade in question and the best opportunity the pro-life advocates have had of overturn it. >> bill: very interesting. i get the sense this is bush versus gore and that level of intensity today. 21 years ago it was the first time we heard the audio from inside the u.s. supreme court and it really is truly a moment of drama when you hear the voices bounce off the marble walls inside the court. that's what you are in for in 45 minutes from now. >> dana: one other thing. you hear from the lawyers in the case. one from mississippi and one from the abortion clinic. a third lawyer speaking today, the solicitor general of the
roe v. wade let it stand 65% overturn it 28%. what jonathan turley was saying when you look at it as a law as it was decided at the time there are very few constitutional scholars who say it was correctly decided. you might still think abortion should be legal and in the states that could be true, right? the states will be allowed to make their own rules. the overarching roe v. wade in question and the best opportunity the pro-life advocates have had of overturn it. >> bill: very...
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i don't know -- was it an issue in roe? >> in roe. >> i'm sorry. my understanding is no. the law there didn't have a viability tag. that was inserted. >> if i remember correctly, and i -- it's an unfortunate source, but it's there, in his papers, justice blackman said that viability line was actually and presumably he had some insight on the question. >> i think -- i would add, your honor, justice blackman, as well as capers, pointed out the arbitrary nature and the line drawing problems too. >> and then in casey, casey said that that was the core principle or central principle, viblgts, after tossing out the trimester formula which many thought was the core principle, was viability an issue in casey? >> i don't think it was squarely at issue, your honor. again, it's a little hard not take the court at its word when it emphasized that viability, the viability is the central part of roe's holding and saying it is reaffirming that. we take it as it stands. the court has not -- it did not face a law like this, certainly, mr. chief justice. >> may i finish my inquiry? >> of c
i don't know -- was it an issue in roe? >> in roe. >> i'm sorry. my understanding is no. the law there didn't have a viability tag. that was inserted. >> if i remember correctly, and i -- it's an unfortunate source, but it's there, in his papers, justice blackman said that viability line was actually and presumably he had some insight on the question. >> i think -- i would add, your honor, justice blackman, as well as capers, pointed out the arbitrary nature and the line...
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so is the jurisprudence including roe v. casey, states like mississippi have been unable to protect unborn children until viability. that's the developmental point which is considered around 22 weeks at which a child can survive outside of her mother's womb. and because roe and casey are constitutional decisions, there is absolutely nothing that the political branches or anything else can do about it. in fact, long-term abortions will remain legal until the supreme court returns the issue of abortion to the people. under the supreme court's abortion jurisprudence, it is the only once a baby is viable that states are able to enact protections for the unborn children and their mother subject to certain court-mandated exceptions. this is the viability rule that you herald so much about today. -- you heard so much about today. in 2018 we have herald that mississippi legislators passed and governor bryant courageously signed the gestational act, that's the first 15-week abortion ban in the nation. an abortion clinic immediately f
so is the jurisprudence including roe v. casey, states like mississippi have been unable to protect unborn children until viability. that's the developmental point which is considered around 22 weeks at which a child can survive outside of her mother's womb. and because roe and casey are constitutional decisions, there is absolutely nothing that the political branches or anything else can do about it. in fact, long-term abortions will remain legal until the supreme court returns the issue of...
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casey plus roe is greater than roe. they are making a point that we are an institution perhaps more than a court of appeals. or a district court. it is hamilton's point. no purse, no sword, and yet we have to have public support and that comes primarily, says casey -- i wonder if it was o'connor who wrote that. i don't know. but it comes primarily from people believing that we do our jobs, we use reason, we don't look to just what's popular and that's where you see the paradox. but the problem with the super case of which we've heard three mentioned, the problem with the super case like this, the rare case, the watershed case, where people are really opposed on both sides and they really fight each other is they will be ready to say no you're just politicians, you're just political and that's what kills us as an american institution. that's what they are saying. so we are looking at it for that. we are looking to and that they say is a reason why -- a reason why when you get a case like that you better be damn sure that
casey plus roe is greater than roe. they are making a point that we are an institution perhaps more than a court of appeals. or a district court. it is hamilton's point. no purse, no sword, and yet we have to have public support and that comes primarily, says casey -- i wonder if it was o'connor who wrote that. i don't know. but it comes primarily from people believing that we do our jobs, we use reason, we don't look to just what's popular and that's where you see the paradox. but the problem...
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the reasoning in roe was pure legal fiction. the court never should have waited into the abortion wars. perhaps the most revealing and disturbing part of the argument came during a discussion of darius isis, president of roe vs. wade should generally be expected to preserve a measurable predictable element of legal principles. left-wing justices and their supporters in the press have largely abandoned the notion that any textual provision of the u.s. constitution prohibits states from preventing the killing of the unborn. at this point their main argument is that roe has been on the books for a long time and it's too late to do anything about it. that is absurd. of the notion that the american people are stuck with a wicked decision just for the sake of tradition goes against everything the country stands for. by that reasoning plessy versus ferguson which is how loud a segregation for over 50 years would never have been overturned by brown versus board of education. arguing in favor of the state's 15 week abortion band also arg
the reasoning in roe was pure legal fiction. the court never should have waited into the abortion wars. perhaps the most revealing and disturbing part of the argument came during a discussion of darius isis, president of roe vs. wade should generally be expected to preserve a measurable predictable element of legal principles. left-wing justices and their supporters in the press have largely abandoned the notion that any textual provision of the u.s. constitution prohibits states from...
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roe was settled. nothing about the constitution has changed since roe that would affect the way that roe was decided. none of those things have changed in any way materially that would warrant throwing out generations of settled precedent around which americans have built their lives and their expectations for what it means to be a free person living in h this country. if the only reason to throw out that settled precedent is because, hey, brett's here now, then won't that make americans think that the court actually isn't about looking at the law and it isn't just about looking at the constitution? it's just like a little mini congress with robes oonld it's about republicans putting together enough votes for their chosen policy preferences or democrats putting enough votes together for theirs.en here is how "the washington post" editorial board made that case today in an editorial that was published after the arguments concluded. you see the headline there, "getting roe would devastate millions of am
roe was settled. nothing about the constitution has changed since roe that would affect the way that roe was decided. none of those things have changed in any way materially that would warrant throwing out generations of settled precedent around which americans have built their lives and their expectations for what it means to be a free person living in h this country. if the only reason to throw out that settled precedent is because, hey, brett's here now, then won't that make americans think...
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senate to codify roe v. wade into law. >> is that something you think is a debate that will happen sooner rather than later or wait until june? >> let's see what the court does first. >> senator amy klobuchar. democrat from minnesota. >> it was great to be on, chuck. thank you. >> thanks very much. >>> joining me from the other side of the aisle is senator mike braun of indiana. welcome back to "meet the press," sir. >> my pleasure, chuck. >> let me start -- i'm going to start with the abortion laws in your home state. some of the most -- some would argue some are somewhat restrict irv from the perspective of someone seeking an abortion. in indiana there's state-directed in-person counseling, no tell medicine, a one-hour waiting period, physical exam, and ultrasound, parental consent for minors, the ban begins at 22 weeks, two weeks shorter than many other states that are at 4. you said you're 100% pro-life. is the law in indiana in your view strong enough to support your pro-life position? >> chuck, i think
senate to codify roe v. wade into law. >> is that something you think is a debate that will happen sooner rather than later or wait until june? >> let's see what the court does first. >> senator amy klobuchar. democrat from minnesota. >> it was great to be on, chuck. thank you. >> thanks very much. >>> joining me from the other side of the aisle is senator mike braun of indiana. welcome back to "meet the press," sir. >> my pleasure, chuck....
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roe. >>> coming up the u.s. supreme court hears a case on the constitutionality of mississippi law that bans most abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. live supreme court coverage of dobbs versus jackson on c-span 3. . >> the associate justices of the supreme court of the united states, all persons having business before the honorables, the supreme court of the united states, are admonished to draw near and give their attention for the court is now sitting. god save the united states and this honorable court. >> we will hear argument in case 19-1392, dobbs versus jackson women's health organization. general stewart. >> mr. chief justice, may it please the court, roe v wade and planned parenthood versus kc haunt our country. they have no basis in the constitution and no home in our history or traditions. they've damaged the democratic process. they poison the law. they've choked off compromise. for 50 years they've kept this court at the kent center of a political battle it can never resolve, and they stand alon
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that later would become the basis of roe. roe stands on very sandy ground when it comes to constitutional doctrine. >> i would disagree with that. griswald was preceded by myer versus nebraska in 1922, 1923 where the court found states can't be german language instruction. the fact that it's enumerates our rights vis-a-vis the government just isn't accurate across many rights that i think we just all assume will be there for us in the morning when we wake up as americans. >> that might be the argument, erica, we hear in that courtroom beginning today. >> could be. interesting to see what the questions are that are asked. we won't have a ruling until likely june. kim wehle, paul callan, thank you. >>> we're keeping a close watch on developments in this story this morning. the sheriff investigating that deadly school shooting in michigan says they have obtained new evidence, and the sheriff believes that will help in the investigation. that evidence pertains to the 15-year-old suspect who is in custody and currently on suicide
that later would become the basis of roe. roe stands on very sandy ground when it comes to constitutional doctrine. >> i would disagree with that. griswald was preceded by myer versus nebraska in 1922, 1923 where the court found states can't be german language instruction. the fact that it's enumerates our rights vis-a-vis the government just isn't accurate across many rights that i think we just all assume will be there for us in the morning when we wake up as americans. >> that...
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the core of roe v.he state has very different abilities to regulate abortion before and after viability. viability has been the key determinant in abortion law for 50 years. this mississippi law without question bans abortion before viability. and that's a question that the court is going to have to grapple with today and at least three of the conservatives i think are very likely to uphold the law and want to overturn roe v. wade. that's clarence thomas, as you pointed out earlier, neil gorsuch, and samuel alito. the other conservatives, you have chief justice john roberts who is actually said he wants to support the precedent of roe v. wade, at least in some circumstances, and the two people to keep an eye on today are brett kavanaugh and amy coney barrett, because they have not really talked about abortion since they have been appointed to the court and think they're the most important votes to watch today. >> and we will be watching, jeffrey toobin, appreciate it, thank you. >> okay. >>> coming up n
the core of roe v.he state has very different abilities to regulate abortion before and after viability. viability has been the key determinant in abortion law for 50 years. this mississippi law without question bans abortion before viability. and that's a question that the court is going to have to grapple with today and at least three of the conservatives i think are very likely to uphold the law and want to overturn roe v. wade. that's clarence thomas, as you pointed out earlier, neil...
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>>> this sunday, the fate of roe v. wade. >> life is so precious and these babies have a chance noup. >> the supreme court signals it's ready to allow an abortion ban at 15 weeks. is it going to weaken or overturn roe v. wade. >> is it really an issue about choice, why is 15 weeks not enough time. >> reporter: lawyers argue that fetal viability should remain the standard. >> mississippi's ban on abortion two months before viability is flatly unconstitutional under decades of precedent. >> and liberal justices warn of damage to the court's reputation. my guests this morning, democratic senator amy klobuchar and republican senator mike braun. >> plus omicron. >> we're going to fight this variant with science and speed, not chaos and confusion. >> new travel concerns amid concerns about transmissibility and how effective vaccines will be. >> because of the number of mutations that are seen, the concern is vaccines won't work as well. >> i'll talk to the direct to be of the national institutes of health, dr. francis collins
>>> this sunday, the fate of roe v. wade. >> life is so precious and these babies have a chance noup. >> the supreme court signals it's ready to allow an abortion ban at 15 weeks. is it going to weaken or overturn roe v. wade. >> is it really an issue about choice, why is 15 weeks not enough time. >> reporter: lawyers argue that fetal viability should remain the standard. >> mississippi's ban on abortion two months before viability is flatly...
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if roe v. wade is overturned, almost half states have so-called trigger laws already in place that will rapidly make abortion illegal. after the headlines, the latest on the fight over reproductive rights at the supreme court, analysis of the oral arguments with northwestern university law professor katie watson and the head i planned parenthood alexis mcgill johnson the united states has for the first time detected a case of the highly mutated omicron coronavirus variant, which the world health organization has labeled a variant of concern. top infectious disease scientist dr. anthony fauci made the announcement at the white house wednesday. >> we knew it was just a matter of time before the first case of on whidbey detected -- omicron would be detected in the united states most of individual was a traveler to return from south africa on november 22 and tested positive on november 29. amy: the omicron variant has now been detected in over two dozen countries. its discovery in san francisco omp
if roe v. wade is overturned, almost half states have so-called trigger laws already in place that will rapidly make abortion illegal. after the headlines, the latest on the fight over reproductive rights at the supreme court, analysis of the oral arguments with northwestern university law professor katie watson and the head i planned parenthood alexis mcgill johnson the united states has for the first time detected a case of the highly mutated omicron coronavirus variant, which the world...
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of roe v.ade. joshua prager, you spent 12 years working on a book about the roe case. did it lead you to better understand why this is been the most enduringly divisive case decided by the supreme court? guest: i think that there is something unique about america and abortion that has left us vulnerable to this problem. then there were also sort of enormous forces at work that then worked hard to sort of exploit that vulnerability, so it was a combination of things that were uniquely american. i think our puritanical roots have something to do with it, and forces under both sides of the issue that then benefited in a sense from having this become such an enormous problem and they worked hard to politicize it, etc. host: the heart of your book is norma mccorvey's life story. what are the aspects of her life and personality that are essential for us to know as we start this conversation? guest: i mentioned six and religion -- sex and religion. and when i started this project i no idea what she wa
of roe v.ade. joshua prager, you spent 12 years working on a book about the roe case. did it lead you to better understand why this is been the most enduringly divisive case decided by the supreme court? guest: i think that there is something unique about america and abortion that has left us vulnerable to this problem. then there were also sort of enormous forces at work that then worked hard to sort of exploit that vulnerability, so it was a combination of things that were uniquely american....
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chief justice and may it please the court, roe very wade and -- roe v. wade haunts our country. they've damaged o the democratic process, they've poisoned the law, they've choked off compromise. for 50 years they've kept this court at the center of a political battle that it can never resolve, and they stand alone are. nowhere else does this court recognize a right to end a human life. consider this case. the mississippi law here prohibits abortions after 15 weeks. the law includes robust exception for a woman's life and health. but thehe courts below struck te law down. it didn't matter that the law -- when an unborn child is uncondition by human, when risks to women -- undeniably human. the lower courts held that because the law prohibits abortions before viability, it is the unconstitutional no matter what. roe and casey's core holding according to those the courts that people can protect an unborn girl's life when she just barely can survive outside the womb but not any the earlier when she needs a little more help. that is the world under roe and casey. that is not world th
chief justice and may it please the court, roe very wade and -- roe v. wade haunts our country. they've damaged o the democratic process, they've poisoned the law, they've choked off compromise. for 50 years they've kept this court at the center of a political battle that it can never resolve, and they stand alone are. nowhere else does this court recognize a right to end a human life. consider this case. the mississippi law here prohibits abortions after 15 weeks. the law includes robust...
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that law directly contradicts the 1973 roe v. wade ruling which guaranteed that right prior to the viability of the fetus generally considered about 24 weeks into a pregnancy. now, that decision was largely reaffirmed in 1992. and since then, a woman's right to an abortion has been considered settled law. now, those aren't my words. that's what now justice kavanaugh told senator susan collins back in 2018 during his confirmation process in front of the world. but listen to him now just three years later. >> if you think about some of the most important cases, the most consequential cases in this court's history, there's a string of them where the cases overruled precedent. if the court in those cases had -- had listened and they were presented with arguments in those cases adhered to precedent in brown v. board, adhered to plessy and adhered to atkins and adhered to lochner. if the court had done that in those cases, you know, the country would be a much different place. >> all right, so the newest justice trump appointee amy con
that law directly contradicts the 1973 roe v. wade ruling which guaranteed that right prior to the viability of the fetus generally considered about 24 weeks into a pregnancy. now, that decision was largely reaffirmed in 1992. and since then, a woman's right to an abortion has been considered settled law. now, those aren't my words. that's what now justice kavanaugh told senator susan collins back in 2018 during his confirmation process in front of the world. but listen to him now just three...
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>> i think he's looking for a way to uphold the mississippi law without overturning roe. that is part of his dna because he doesn't like big bold dramatic moves, he's always looking to make the small incremental decision but he's of the view roe and casey were wrongly decided. he's going to have a very difficult job because once you get rid of the viability line everybody who stood at the podium argued admitted there was no alternative, is there a line you can draw other than viability at the end of the day they said we don't think so. i don't know how he's going to do that, if you wants to cite european law or something. laura: looked like he was fighting against himself and logic and essential constitutional principles in the way he went about that. of course it doesn't make sense. 15 weeks doesn't make sense, talking about pain, and not him but sotomayor whether the baby can feel pain in her point made no sense, it was fascinating to watch or listen to this argument today because i think people who have a chance to listen to it went away their breath taken away, if you
>> i think he's looking for a way to uphold the mississippi law without overturning roe. that is part of his dna because he doesn't like big bold dramatic moves, he's always looking to make the small incremental decision but he's of the view roe and casey were wrongly decided. he's going to have a very difficult job because once you get rid of the viability line everybody who stood at the podium argued admitted there was no alternative, is there a line you can draw other than viability at...
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it would be a problem for the court if they overturn roe because roe is -- . nothing about the country has changed since roe. that would meaningfully affect the terms on which roe was settled. nothing about the constitution has changed since roe. that would meaningfully effect which was settled. nothing about science has changed enough to materially impact the way that roe was decided. none of those things have changed in any way, materially, that was worth throwing out generations of prospects around which americans have built their lies and expectations through what it means to be a free person living in this country. if the only reason to throughout that settled precedent is because -- is here. now then won't that make americans think that the court isn't actually about looking at the law. and it isn't about looking at the constitution. it's just a mini congress with ropes on. and it's about republicans putting enough votes were their chosen preferences are. or democrats putting impart their own. here is a washington post editorial made in case today. in th
it would be a problem for the court if they overturn roe because roe is -- . nothing about the country has changed since roe. that would meaningfully affect the terms on which roe was settled. nothing about the constitution has changed since roe. that would meaningfully effect which was settled. nothing about science has changed enough to materially impact the way that roe was decided. none of those things have changed in any way, materially, that was worth throwing out generations of prospects...
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if the court just throws out roe v. wade and it becomes a state by state decision, some women will have to drive hundreds of miles or transport themselves. i say drive, move hundreds of miles to get access to an abortion. that is a decision we will know months from now down the road. the chief justice in the past who has been a defender of precedent has tried, in the previous court, to work with liberals to say, okay, i'm a conservative but we'll try to split the difference here. he made the point with mississippi that you've changed our strategy here which makes the decision more difficult. >> your first question of which we granted on review was, whether all previability prohibitions on elective abortions were okay. and then i think it's fair to say when you got to the briefs on the merits, you shifted gears. >> the harder questions are should the court overrule and that i that momentous step and that's why we devote a lot of space to that very important issue. >> they believe they're at the precipice of it. >> right,
if the court just throws out roe v. wade and it becomes a state by state decision, some women will have to drive hundreds of miles or transport themselves. i say drive, move hundreds of miles to get access to an abortion. that is a decision we will know months from now down the road. the chief justice in the past who has been a defender of precedent has tried, in the previous court, to work with liberals to say, okay, i'm a conservative but we'll try to split the difference here. he made the...
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>> well, if roe v.ompletely overturned, then state legislatures are going to have their say, and in my state, for example, they have already spoken. they already have put a law on the books that says that personhood begins at conception. so we're talking about illegal morning-after pills for rape victims, we're talking about no ivf, in vitro fertilization for couples struggling to have a baby and need that science to help them have their own child. we're talking about really extreme positions. this will be the dog that caught the bus if, in fact, roe is completely blown up. >> rich, politically, just looking at where the republican party is right now, is a redefining of roe politically easier for republicans to survive than an overturn, or do you think an overturn could be good politics for the right? >> well, the reaction to an overturn will be thermonuclear. it is the foreseeable event that has the greatest chance of changing the trajectory of the midterms which obviously are not slide flooding a good
>> well, if roe v.ompletely overturned, then state legislatures are going to have their say, and in my state, for example, they have already spoken. they already have put a law on the books that says that personhood begins at conception. so we're talking about illegal morning-after pills for rape victims, we're talking about no ivf, in vitro fertilization for couples struggling to have a baby and need that science to help them have their own child. we're talking about really extreme...
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two generations of women have relied on roe v. wade. one out of four women in the united states will have an abortion in her lifetime. and banning abortions will hurt most people who are in challenging circumstances those who already have a hard time accessing health care, including communities of color, people of low incomes, rural communities, young people, and more. just a month ago in a texas case , it was blocked. here we are again today. it was clear outside the courtroom that there is tremendous support for abortion rights. seven in 10 people in the united states support legal abortion. it was strongly seeing out in front of fort today. i want to hand it over to shannon brewer, the fearless clinic director at jackson women's health organization. we are proud to represent them in this case. she will talk about how it felt to be at the court today and how it is feeling back in mississippi. shannon: thank you, nancy. thank you everyone. my name is shannon brewer. i am the director of jackson women's health center, and today we were
two generations of women have relied on roe v. wade. one out of four women in the united states will have an abortion in her lifetime. and banning abortions will hurt most people who are in challenging circumstances those who already have a hard time accessing health care, including communities of color, people of low incomes, rural communities, young people, and more. just a month ago in a texas case , it was blocked. here we are again today. it was clear outside the courtroom that there is...
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wade in 26 states. >> roe v.ognize this right to an abortion. planned parenthood versus casey in 1982. a decision by an overwhelmingly republican supreme court court. so these justices are not just conservative, they're far to the right of even where republican party justices have been in the past. so it's not a mystery when one asks well why is institutional legitimacy of the court dropping? it's because the court is out of the mainstream of american society and we haven't seen the effects of that all right now. i think after some very contentious confirmation hearings, what happened was the court decided to take a more incremental approach. not take some cases on hot button issues, but not after justice barrett has replaced ginsburg, i think the hats are off and they are rearing and ready to go and the american people are going to feel the consequences. >> there's sort of an if this than that. and if that is the case, then em base the fact that 46% of the country doesn't trust your institution, but they want it
wade in 26 states. >> roe v.ognize this right to an abortion. planned parenthood versus casey in 1982. a decision by an overwhelmingly republican supreme court court. so these justices are not just conservative, they're far to the right of even where republican party justices have been in the past. so it's not a mystery when one asks well why is institutional legitimacy of the court dropping? it's because the court is out of the mainstream of american society and we haven't seen the...
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if the court was to reverse roe v. wade, 26 states are certain, are likely to ban abortion almost immediately. take louisiana as an example. the nearest clinic for three and five women would be in illinois. and for the rest of the women, it would be kansas or north carolina. it is a drastic shift. who is going to have the most impact here? >> people who are not able to travel in order to make medical decisions or act on informed medical decisions. people who do not have the resources to do it. it will fall disparately on women of color and people of color in general who are more likely to fall in that category. this is not to suggest -- and i want to be very clear. whenever i heard this argument be made that abortion restriction also overwhelmingly impact women of color and black women, it's not to suggest nor should anyone suggest that only black women or women of color are having abortions. this is a very universalized experience for women. but it's oftentimes talked about as if it only impacts. but it does have a di
if the court was to reverse roe v. wade, 26 states are certain, are likely to ban abortion almost immediately. take louisiana as an example. the nearest clinic for three and five women would be in illinois. and for the rest of the women, it would be kansas or north carolina. it is a drastic shift. who is going to have the most impact here? >> people who are not able to travel in order to make medical decisions or act on informed medical decisions. people who do not have the resources to...
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from sort of undoing roe v. wade to openly undoing roe v. wade. so, i think it's a big day for people who need to access the procedure or who want dominion for their own bodies. because the people who were called hysterical actually called it. >> yes, unquestionably. and there was nothing more -- made at the time, it was comics really disingenuous. all the voices on the right saying, well, you don't know what any call did bear thinks about abortion. well, she's just a judge. i mean, come on. >> i'm brett kavanaugh, i might add. brett kavanaugh supposed moderate, republican. brett kavanaugh went for it today. brett kavanaugh is interested in overturning this president. despite everything he said to susan collins and others. >> yeah, but it was all lying for the lord. it's all real politic, right? it is a matter how many hundreds of thousands of bodies are piled up because of donald trump's mismanagement of covid and the superspreader event itself for the pro-life justice that came this close maybe to killing off chris christie. managed to make it t
from sort of undoing roe v. wade to openly undoing roe v. wade. so, i think it's a big day for people who need to access the procedure or who want dominion for their own bodies. because the people who were called hysterical actually called it. >> yes, unquestionably. and there was nothing more -- made at the time, it was comics really disingenuous. all the voices on the right saying, well, you don't know what any call did bear thinks about abortion. well, she's just a judge. i mean, come...
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. >> roe v. wade has got to go!> the supreme court case that could end nearly five decades of precedent. >> we need care! >> what the justices said today. >> i think we all should be alarmed. >> we're on the ground with the activists we've been following for years. >> do you believe that will become reality, that roe v. wade will be overturned? >> i do believe that that will be reality. >> and inside the mississippi clinic at the heart of the case. >>> plus dr. oz wants to go to washington. >> pennsylvania needs a conservative who will put america first. >> running for the u.s. senate as a republican who says he can fix the country. but will the tv doctor's controversies come back to haunt him? >> i don't get why you need to say this stuff because you know it's not true. do you struggle with occasional nerve aches in your hands or feet? try nervivenerve relief from the world's #1 selling nerve care company. nervive contains alpha lipoic acid to relieve occasional nerve aches, weakness and discomfort. try nervivenerv
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this is the greatest challenge to roe v.ade in decades, and our rights, our reproductive rights, are at stake. >> i have never had an abortion myself, but there is a chance i might need one one day. >> i do hope roe v. wade will be overturned. i think abortion is kind of barbaric. >> i'm hoping that in this case the justices choose life, she's to uphold the mississippi law. mark: everyone has a personal opinion, but this will actually change the law in how a woman can choose. let's bring in our correspondent in washington. a very good evening to you. the ruling won't be known for some months, we have an indication of how the justices may see it. >> there is not much doubt that the justices, especially this 6-3 conservative majority in the supreme court, will move to at least change a little bit those abortion rights, to limit those abortion rights. the question really is how far will ty go. it is very likely, given the type of questions that those conservative justices asked during the two hour long hearing that they will up
this is the greatest challenge to roe v.ade in decades, and our rights, our reproductive rights, are at stake. >> i have never had an abortion myself, but there is a chance i might need one one day. >> i do hope roe v. wade will be overturned. i think abortion is kind of barbaric. >> i'm hoping that in this case the justices choose life, she's to uphold the mississippi law. mark: everyone has a personal opinion, but this will actually change the law in how a woman can choose....
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casey did the analysis for roe. the question before this court is whether that analysis was egregiously wrong. if i may answer your earlier question about whether viability was squarely at issue in casey, it clearly was, your honor. pages 869 to 871, the court squarely addressed viability, because the government had made the argument that viability -- >> no, no, i appreciate that casey addressed it. but that's different than saying it was at issue. it said it was the central principal of roe because it was pretty much all that was left after they were done dealing with the rest of us. the regulations in casey had no applicability or not depending on where viability was. if they didn't say anything about viability, it's like what justice blackman said in -- when discussing among his colleagues, which is good reason not to have papers out that early, is that they don't have to address the line drawing at all in roe. and they didn't have to address the line drawing at all in casey. >> i disagree. the undo burden test i
casey did the analysis for roe. the question before this court is whether that analysis was egregiously wrong. if i may answer your earlier question about whether viability was squarely at issue in casey, it clearly was, your honor. pages 869 to 871, the court squarely addressed viability, because the government had made the argument that viability -- >> no, no, i appreciate that casey addressed it. but that's different than saying it was at issue. it said it was the central principal of...
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roe v.ade, a viability test. that is a revolution for roe. our hope is that it is overturned and the democratic process could bring consensus on each state and have that shown in the law. just a few steps from where we are here is oral arguments. host: is it important to you the supreme court explicitly say, eventually we will hear that at the end of the term that they explicitly say roe v. wade was ruled incorrectly and thereby is overturned? guest: that is our goal. 45 states with 79 less women legislators representing no states, that is the case they make. they should be overturned and it was wrongly decided that it took away the democratic process and the ability of women whose views are not monolithic. have that reflected in our laws. attorney general fitch, that is her argument that the attorney general of mississippi, her argument as it should be overturned and a completely unworkable ruling. that is reflected in some liberal jurists including ruth bader ginsburg. almost indefensible
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if roe v. wade fails, women could be denied access to vital form of health care in first time in nearly 50 years. millions of women lose their right to abortion overnight and the impact would be immediate. at the heart of this supreme court case is a lawsuit against the jackson women's health organization clinic. many of you might know that as the pink house in mississippi. it is the last remaining clinic in the state that provides abortion care and serves as a lifeline for many women in state and surrounding states like texas where a ban on abortions after six weeks has basically outlawed the procedure. the clinic is challenging the state law banning abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy which is well before a fetus is viable, meaning it can survive on its own. if the court upholds mississippi's law, the overturning of roe, the impact would be felt across the country. 26 states have so-called trigger laws in place that would go into effect immediately. those states are highlighted in orange and
if roe v. wade fails, women could be denied access to vital form of health care in first time in nearly 50 years. millions of women lose their right to abortion overnight and the impact would be immediate. at the heart of this supreme court case is a lawsuit against the jackson women's health organization clinic. many of you might know that as the pink house in mississippi. it is the last remaining clinic in the state that provides abortion care and serves as a lifeline for many women in state...
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biden: i support roe v. >> we are asking the supreme court of the united states to overturn roe v. wade and restore the sanctity of life to the center of american law. ♪ ros: let's begin with the developing story in the world of sport because the women's tennis association says it is suspending all tournaments in china after chinese tennis star peng shuai disappeared from public view for three weeks after she accused the top official of sexual assault -- a top official of sexual assault. "i'm announcing the immediate suspension of all wta events in china. i don't see how i can ask our athletes to compete there when peng shuai is not allowed to communicate freely and seemingly been pressured to contradict her allegation of sexual assault." it's now december 2 in china, a month since the tennis player, peng shuai's post. you still cannot square cut -- share or quote the post. here's more from bbc sport. >> the wta would like to see more focus on finding out what the president of the -- out whether the presiden
biden: i support roe v. >> we are asking the supreme court of the united states to overturn roe v. wade and restore the sanctity of life to the center of american law. ♪ ros: let's begin with the developing story in the world of sport because the women's tennis association says it is suspending all tournaments in china after chinese tennis star peng shuai disappeared from public view for three weeks after she accused the top official of sexual assault -- a top official of sexual...
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should roe v. wade be overturned, abortion could be severely restricted or banned right away in at least 26 states, over half of our union. with that lets bring in our starting line on this wednesday night. peter baker, long time journalist and author, chief white house correspondent for "the new york times," sam stein, white house editor at pilot cowand barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, worked with the doj during the biden transition, a professor at her alma mater university of michigan law school who wants you to know they beat ohio state. she has a podcast sisters-in-law. good evening and welcome to you all. indeed, counselor, i'd like to begin with you. what signals did your trained ears pick up listening to oral arguments this morning? >> well, brian, i appreciate the chance for a chuckle. i think that's the last laugh for a while in light of the arguments that we heard today. i think all ears were on some of the justices who might be swing justices, m
should roe v. wade be overturned, abortion could be severely restricted or banned right away in at least 26 states, over half of our union. with that lets bring in our starting line on this wednesday night. peter baker, long time journalist and author, chief white house correspondent for "the new york times," sam stein, white house editor at pilot cowand barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, worked with the doj during the biden transition, a...
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this case is a direct challenge to the case of roe v. wade. with more here's pete williams >> reporter: hundreds gathered outside the court. both sides vividly demonstrating what's at stake mississippi defended its law passed in 2018 but blocked by lower courts that would ban virtually all abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy, at odds with nearly 50 years of supreme court rulings. >> life is so precious, and these babies have a chance now. 48 years ago they may not have >> reporter: starting with roe v. wade, the supreme court ruled states can't ban abortion before the age of viability, around 24 weeks into a pregnancy. that's why mississippi's law is a direct challenge to roe. >> this is an individual liberty interest for women because it has such a profound effect on our health and our lives and our future >> reporter: the more liberal justices warn today that overturning roe would undermine public confidence. >> will this institution survive the stench that this creates in the public perception that the constitution and its reading are jus
this case is a direct challenge to the case of roe v. wade. with more here's pete williams >> reporter: hundreds gathered outside the court. both sides vividly demonstrating what's at stake mississippi defended its law passed in 2018 but blocked by lower courts that would ban virtually all abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy, at odds with nearly 50 years of supreme court rulings. >> life is so precious, and these babies have a chance now. 48 years ago they may not have >>...