rights and not a challenge against roe v. wade. also, three more clinics were forced to close in texas as h.b. 2 passed last year with the heroic filibuster going into effect. among those that closed was the last remaining clinic in the poorest part of the state. laws on h.b. 2 in texas are having a real impact on women's lives. as more of these laws are implemented around the country, more women are being deprived of their rights and forced to make impossible choices. joining me now, carolyn jones, a contributing writer for "the texas observer" and the pro-choice texas. heather, i want to start with what's going on with you in texas. the first part of the law, trap law, talk about that, and then the second part of the law or the next phase actually goes into effect in september, which is going to make it even worse.

he wants to repeal roe v wade and questions the impacts humans have on climate change and wants to get rid of the affordable care act and has no workable alternative. it seems to me if the democrats want to take people's temperatures and think about how we feel, they are going to lose. they have to change the subject from how do you feel in this sort of gloom ey environment the republicans are helping create and say what do you believe in? do you believe in a woman's right to choose minimum wage? do you want the government run that way? or do you want to run by exlobbiest wingers who do anything to dump on obama. seems like they need to change from taking temperatures and feelings to what you believe in. >> it is no doubt going to be a difficult environment for the

something else to fear the republicans get the upper hand, women's health care, roe v. wade, which the florida republican who won plans to repeal. voter suppression? wait until the republicans get ready for their plans on minority access. they'll know the price of a lost election. and that minimum wage hike, watch it die if the r's get complete control of congress there is a promise to kill it. and could bit time for the democrats to put up word that it's not just a chance for angry people to dump all over barack obama, but a chance to hit you where you're weakest. jonathan martin is the national political correspondent for "the new york times." and eugene robinson is a pulitzer prize winning columnist with "the washington post" and an msnbc political analyst. jonathan, i was struck by the campaign run on defense by alex sink down in florida two days ago, where she was very reasonable and nice. well, maybe there are problems with obamacare, but let's try to fix it, not get rid of it. maybe we shouldn't think we're right on everything. maybe the republicans are right on some

heartbeat rule in alabama, which would push down the threshold to something closer to six weeks when roe v. wade, which still stands, means you have to get to the first trimester before the ban becomes so restrictive. what is behind passing a law that even some of the sponsors in some of these states know ultimately won't survive constitutional mustard. joe, what is the strategy? >> we don't advocate the legislature do things like that. we think we pass things that are soundly constitutional, and we'll see where the fifth circuit holds up the law, we think they will. family planning in texas has increased funding for family planning to record level, and more than 3,000 family planning providers across texas. we have to look at exactly what the legislature has been doing. that is protecting the health and safety of women, and providing women's healthcare. >> kimberly, where do you see this battle going? it's not just in texas. it's in many states. >> absolutely. it's across the country. my primary concern is that every woman should be able to make the decision for herself without political interf

in his book, reagan made political -- he never accepted the legal rationale for roe v wade and he saw it as -- it was an affront to the original meaning of to the constitution and it embodied all that was wrong with the courts. in his book, he compared roe v wade to the dred scott decision in the 1850's. in a in doing so, he drew conclusions about abortion as lincoln did with slavery. when done under the color of him law, it threatens to undermine is our principles. when the court protects the right of the strong to dismember the weak, it devalues the very name of human freedom. like slavery, abortion shifts away the fundamental principle of political equality. he quoted abraham lincoln. i would like to know if -- where will it stop? if one man says it will not mean an african slave, why would one man say it does not mean another man? similarly, if we can exclude an unborn baby from the principal, why not another human being? if the law endorses the power to destroy in an arbitrary fashion, and the legal notion that might makes right does not span constitutional law but it may undermi

book, he compared roe v wade to the dred scott decision in the 1850's. drewing so, the two -- he conclusions about abortion as lincoln did with slavery. the color ofer law, it threatens to undermine is our principles. when the court protects the right of the strong to dismember the week, it devalues the very name of human freedom. like slavery, abortion shifts away the fundamental principle of political equality. he quoted abraham lincoln. -- whereike to know if will it stop? if one man says it will not mean an african slave, while would one man say it not mean another man? similarly, if we can exclude an unborn baby from the principal, why not another human being? law endorses the power to destroy in an arbitrary fashion, and the legal notion that might ask right does not span -- might makes right does not span constitutional law but it may undermine the fabric of our social order and it still does. deed sin word and us.ht to redirect one can imagine reagan speaking the same words spoken by jimmy stewart in the filibuster scene. just get up off the grou

abortion because i'm catholic but in public policy i'm going to carry out othe law of the land roe v. wade not he oppose. my thing is and you correct me if i am wrong, that as a catholic and as a christian, you are compelled to protect life. you can't delineate, okay, public policy from you. you have to protect. outwardly protect it. am i wrong on that? >> no, you are absolutely correct. >> all right. so it's a charade when they make this rationalization. now, i wonder if the pope or any of his guys, pulled kerry aside and said this is the deal. you're compelled because his whole career, john kerry as senator has been very ardently pro-choice. i will give you the last word. >> well, there is a certain phrase in scripture, strong delusion. and some ways it's covered elites of our entire society where we have taken positions that are without precedent and among them is this position on abortion. free and unrestricted abortion. the church was fighting in the 1980s against the soviet empire. and john paul ii took a turn in the 1990s and he started to fight against what he called the culture of

abortion because i'm catholic but in public policy i'm going to carry out othe law of the land roe v. wade not he oppose. my thing is and you correct me if i am wrong, that as a catholic and as a christian, you are compelled to protect life. you can't delineate, okay, public policy from you. you have to protect. outwardly protect it. am i wrong on that? >> no, you are absolutely correct. >> all right. so it's a charade when they make this rationalization. now, i wonder if the pope or any of his guys, pulled kerry aside and said this is the deal. you're compelled because his whole career, john kerry as senator has been very ardently pro-choice. i will give you the last word. >> well, there is a certain phrase in scripture, strong delusion. and some ways it's covered elites of our entire society where we have taken positions that are without precedent and among them is this position on abortion. free and unrestricted abortion. the church was fighting in the 1980s against the soviet empire. and john paul ii took a turn in the 1990s and he started to fight against what he called the culture of

but one really important thing is that we know that this is the old roe v. wade, when is conception, when is that actually occurring. what i want to know is that if we have "in god we trust" on our money and we say one nation under god in one of our allegiance preamble, what happens if the hypocrisy of our democracy because we don't have church and state separation when we should. we should make sure hobby lobby and all the rest of those places out there that don't want to give free care to their employees so they can get preventive care, especially the women, they need to make sure they do what they're supposed to do and our supreme court needs to do what they're supposed to do and find in favor of this law. they have to. because that's a very slippery slope. very slippery slope. >> dr. corey hebert, appreciate your time. thanks for being on "the ed show." share your thoughts with us on twitter and on facebook. we want to know what you think on this. tweet the show on theis extension, on this new deadline. coming up, how raising minimum wage could close the gend

. >> when they said it could never be done, now twice, twice for the first time since roe v. wade, new jersey has elected a pro-life governor of new jersey. you know, what we need to start saying is, what we need to start saying is that we're not going to put up any longer with them defining what we are, but the way we have to define ourselves to say what we're for. when we say we're pro-life and proudly pro-life, that doesn't mean we're pro-life just when that human being is in the womb. we need to be pro-life when they leave the womb as well. for every step of their lives. >> and that was chris christie's turn on the stage at cpac. his appearance at the conference that snubbed him last year was supposed to be a triumphant moment. it was supposed to be the day that chris christie called the republican party home from the wilderness. the day he showed the right that he has more in common with them than they thought and he unlike any other republican they'd seen, that he could take their values and turn blue states into red states with them. supposed to be a day that would begin to

the question ultimately is does it matter if roe v. wadet practically an option for people in so many of these communities anymore? >> right. ari, that's a great question. what you have is something that's legal on paper but in reality it's a complete abstraction. i mean, it almost doesn't matter for people. if it's out of reach, if it's inaccessible, the legalty is on paper. abortion is still legal. >> right. that really is the issue. we're going to continue on that. the mhp team wanted to have you on it given your work and your view from the ground. amy, thank you. >> you're welcome. thank you. >>> now if you think this is an isolated story or if you think, well, i don't live in texas so however problematic this is, my rights are not being restricted, well, we would argue, think again. this is happening in states all over the country. when we coming back, we'll get into states going to the most extreme lengths yet with some original reporting. hen i'm on m? with tampax radiant -- whatever i want. [ female announcer ] tampax radiant protec

history from cases like roe v wade which set in stone a woman's right to choose to brown v board of education which helped desegregation public schools however as much as this court can move us forward it can also set us back generations sometimes undermining the very principles of democracy case in point is one of those controversial rulings in recent history the same one you heard protesting about citizens united v federal elections commission which granted corporations the same rights as individuals and in essence equated money with speech and because justice is act behind closed doors away from the media there was very little criticism of the fact that justice thomas and scalia attended a four day koch brothers retreat shortly before they ruled in favor of citizens united but again we can't question what we don't see which is why sneaking in a camera into the supreme of supreme courts was important. open up a broader discussion about the court's lack of openness because in an era where truth falls by the wayside we need to remember that the only antidote for corruption is full transparenc

deal turns on who picks ginsburg successor there are for example four likely votes to overturn roe v wade in the current court chief justice john roberts and justices scalia thomas and alito if a republican president selects skins birds replacement the just as easily could be the fifth vote needed to allow the government to prohibit all abortions i'm i'm not all totally cranked on that i think the roe decision actually did some harm to the in the women's rights and abortion rights movement but you know that's a whole separate argument but i do think that i mean this is what sandra day o'connor did saturday o'connor said that she was going to resign before there was a possibility of a democrat coming into office she just said it right out loud to god the whole world it's not uncommon for supreme court justices to do this yet i mean as a progressive you know that i would i would say that i you know objective from from that point of view it's i would hope get bader ginsburg to step down just to ensure the fact that because the supreme court's play such an important role in our politics wheth

crusades and constant prain of the sixties and seventies everyone everything went to hell because of roe v wade freedom of speech is the gateway to porn i do remember that case involved linda lovelace and. clarence thomas the greatest example of black achievement in the american history really ronald reagan the finally a non loser for president they said you know that president carter had failed luckily ronald reagan was there to assume the presidency and to deliver the nation a return to peace and strength through a patriotic revival i mean for example in this and i haven't even got to the dinosaurs i mean do we really want this our public schools but let's not even let's not use this that we clearly don't think tax dollars should go to support that but let's be clear it's a very small portion as david mentioned before and so it's going to have legs it will say i was under the tent to put to leverage that as an argument against all religious vouchers in this country is scary because i think that there is a push i think i think there is a place for that one of the edge we need alternatives wher