roe v. wade states were number since the appointment of amy coney barrett. justice sam alito's opinion takes a scorched earth approach. it leaves nothing left of a row -- roe v. wade or casey. it has cast a cloud of uncertainty and other constitutional rights. i regard dobbs as a disaster. i want to explain how we got to dobbs, but he says and where it leads us. we need to start with roe v. wade. in 1970 three, abortion was a crime in most states. most criminal abortion laws where the product of the antiabortion campaign. these criminal laws broke with the common law of abortion which generally permitted abortion, roughly 10 to 14 weeks into pregnancy. in the late 1960's the majority of americans believed abortion should not be a crime but decriminalization efforts stalled. before the supreme court's, lawyers representing jane roe and the state of texas argued the constitution took sides on abortion. texas defended its abortion ban by arguing the 14th amendment requires states to protect prenatal

while roe v. wadeeing appealed is a step in the right direction for me and others in elected office to give us a voice we have never had, it is also a step in the right direction for the american people to figure out among themselves in different parts of the country how to do this. here is what i want. i want to be a nation as a whole that recognizes that 15 weeks, the baby feels pain. that to save the baby's life, you have to provide anesthesia because you do not want to hurt the babies in the process of saving its life, and we are not a better nation by dismembering that child during the abortion process. let's have a debate and let's vote. >> on may 3, after the initial documentation, you stated that -- of roe v. wade [indiscernible] in a constitutionally sound way. i am wondering how you square those two statements. sen. graham: after they introduced the bill, to decide who they are, i thought it would be nice to introduce a bill to decide who we are. the democrat standard was abortion up to the t

a conversation on the supreme court decision to overturn roe v. wade>> ladies and gentlemen, the role of congress post-hourly -- post-roe. please welcome penny nance. from minnesota, congresswoman michelle fishbach, and your

this whole thing of roe v. wade happened because of people like carol and i, i just have to say, in the 1970's and 1980's, there was a huge price to pay. there has been until recently. in those times, it was not that way. there was a lawsuit against the national organization for women, and the suit had been taken to the supreme court for 20 years. he nearly lost his home and everything. there of seven children. that's just one example. people like bill and phyllis schlafly, they are the ones who deserve the praise. i just want to give tribute to them so you will know that people really paid a huge price to bring us to this point. >> once upon a time, they said safe, rare, and legal, and my goodness how that has changed. the misinformation coming from the left, the leftist messaging machine has kicked into overdrive. they are demonizing so many aspects of the pro-life movement, lying about repercussions for physicians and doctors, pregnancy clinics. talk to us about that. >> i never quite expected the kind of lying a

they sat down for a conversation about the decision to overturn roe v. wade. >> and now, more from this year's conservative political action conference, most recently in dallas. a conversation on the supreme court decision to overturn roe v. wade. >> ladies and gentlemen, the role of congress post-hourly -- post-roe. please welcome penny nance. from minnesota, congresswoman michelle fishbach, and your host , founder and president of bien venudo u.s. >> ladies and gentlemen, if you love freedom and liberty, let me hear you. [cheers and applause] listen, it is and honor to share this stage with trailblazers in the pro-life community because america believes in the importance of standing for the unborn, and i cannot think of two extraordinary women who have done that. thank you for what you do and what you continue to do for the pro-life movement. before we begin, can we please all give this -- these women a round of applause for their work. [applause] on june 24, the supreme court of the united states decided that it is time to right a wrong in america when the

>> jessica, they tell me when roe v. wadeublicans to democrats. when roe v. wade was the law of the land, republicans could say well, wait, what do democrats want? do they want the right to abortion after 20 weeks, 25 weeks, 30 weeks? it's a slippery slope. what about late term abortions? now that roe v. wade was overturned, democrats have a slippery slope argument and can go out on the campaign trail and say wait a second, why are all these states now having laws on the books that say there is either only an exception for abortion for rape or insist for abortions or even no exception for rape or incest in a number of statements and then they can go out and say there is a republican over reach and if you want that over reach to be rolled back, you've got to go out there and vote for democratic candidates. what do doctors do about atopic pregnancies? what do you do about miscarriage care? that's the kind of thing that they're taking into the general election season that republicans now are having to sort of calibrate where the

while promeants of the whpa claim the bill would codify roe v wade, don't be fooled, it goes much, much further. reasonable limits like parental consent or women's right to no laws, which were possible under roe v wade would not be allowed under the whpa. in addition tax dollars would flow throughout the country to pay for abortion. in a fox news poll conducted this spring, respondents were asked about a law banning abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy except in the case of medical emergency, would you favor or oppose in your state. of those responding, 54% favored such a law and only 41% opposed. disregarding the will of the american people. the only thing the democrats are offering to this country are more babies killed by abortion. the findings in this legislation clearly footnoted provide detailed information about the development of the unborn child and the ability of that child to feel pain. i encourage all legislators, republican and democrats, to support this very modest, very humane proposal. thank you. >> good morning. i'm president and ceo of american's united statessed for l

[inaudible] you stated the repeal of roe v wade. [inaudible] i wonder how you score this to statements? looks pretty easy after they introduce the bill to define who they are i thought it would be nice injured this a bill to define who we are. talk about the nation should be like ready to debate it vote on it. the supreme court case dealt with the mississippi. the supreme court ruled the 15 week proposal in mississippi past muster. i adjusted accordingly. quite frankly did not know we are a little the left of france. generally speaking, being as i flick we are on solid ground. many would like to do more. hithis is a reasonable position for the sciences with us here. there is no scientific debate at 15 weeks. which again is a little bit different than europe. the baby it feels pain that's one of theai principles of this. >> i don't how they're going to get to 60 on their pill. but i think we will do better than they did. ie think there are a couple democrats that will deal with us, hope, pray, right? i think the public is with us. ne

>> chairman maloney: what democrats support broadly is restoring the status quo, roe v. wade. oe v. wade. the other side is going to ban abortion in all 50 states. that's her choice. i will leave it to individual candidates to state their individual positions on any of the nuance, but i'm telling you right now, if you care about your reproductive freedom, if you think politicians shouldn't be making these decisions, that women and their doctors and their families should make these decisions, that's what democrats support. if you care at all about marriage equality, if you care about your report dr. choices like in vitro fertilization, or if you care about birth control, for goodness sake, these are the privacy rights we used to have in the constitution that the maga -- maga supreme court just tore up and threw away. that's the choice this fall. >> mike: do you support any restrictions on abortion, and had all? >> chairman maloney: there were always restrictions on abortion invented in the original roe v. wade decision. anyone who's read it knows it meant there was a test, a com

but then, she said this today, listen. >> roe v. wade is extreme. ere the rest of the country's. and in fact, under obama's administration, the democrats had an opportunity to codify roe v. wade and decided not to. so, this hysteria over roe v. wade is completely manufactured. >> we were just talking about kansas, so let's take a deeper. because in kansas, voters rejected a ballot measure that -- red state that would allow ban abortions. there and democrat pat, ryan channeled abortion anger into a surprise went for a seat in congress. is that anger really manufactured, margaret? >> no, it's not. here's the thing, it's not so clear that in red states they would necessarily be passing these restrictive and horrific abortion laws, certainly in someday are. and in some they're trying to, look at louisiana. but in another red state, kansas, registered sweeping numbers of new voters and past -- overturn, prevented serious restrictions and codified protections for abortion. a very surprising outcome, just weeks after the dobbs decision was handed down. so,

given roe v. wade, it is critically important that this community stand up and take a strong position. those are some of the items we have been focusing on in the state of new york, organizing individuals and groups on the ground, protecting vulnerable populations, standing up for the least of us and using the law as a sword and shield. and i will continue to do that to make sure abortion is free, accessible and safe. [applause] britteny: thank you, attorney general. ag bonta? a.g. bonta: good afternoon everyone, rob bonta, california attorney general. my incredible colleagues are doing incredible work all across the nation. i think netroutes nation for bringing us together to highlight the work attorneys general across the country have been doing and continue to do in this space. what a journey -- what attorneys general do generally is protect your constitutional rights, civil rights, your fundamental rights, freedom and safety. that work is never been more important than it is today. when you look ac

guest: this is in response to actually the roe v. wade decision by the supreme court to overturn the roe v. wade long-standing decision and, so senators democrats and a handful of republican safe we may need to, if the united states supreme court can overturn something like roe v. wade and perhaps they can overturn other long-standing precedents. like the protection for the use of contraception, like gay marriage. so this bill sponsored by tammy baldwin she is teaming up with susan collins basically in shrine to protect same-sex marriage as well as interracial marriage as a right. this is a priority of tammy baldwin. she is the first openly gay senator to be elected. right now, things are a little bit in limbo. there were discussions that things would be attached and use that as a vehicle to move it forward but what baldwin and chuck schumer have said in recent days as they want to move that separately. they think the best chance for that is to hold a standalone vote on that bill and there are negotiations happening. there are concerns on

so this hysteria over roe v. wadeletely manufactured. >> we were just talking about kansas let's take a deeper in. kansas, voters rejected a measure that would've allowed lawmakers to ban abortions there. new york, democrat pat ryan took abortion anger into a surprise win for a seat in congress. is that anger literally manufactured margaret? >> no it's not. here's the thing it's, not so clear than in red states they would necessarily be passing these restrictive and horrific abortion laws. certainly in sunday, our and his son there trying to, look at louisiana. but in another red state kansas, registered sweeping numbers of new voters overturned serious restrictions and codified roe's protections for arborescent. really a surprising outcome just weeks after the dobbs decision was handed down. this is, make no mistake a polarizing issue that is galvanized support of democrats and moderate republicans. there are some pro-choice republicans left and it would has blunted what would've been the historical winds that would'

it doesn't end with roe v. wadestance, particular the lgbtq community. but also does not and with roe v. wade, even though we have heard in the oral arguments, we read in the opinion, this is just about leaving it to the states. nowhere does that say and the federal government has no say. so, there's a couple things here. legally speaking, what needs to happen, the supreme court would have to say congress does in fact have the enumerated power, the enlisted power, under the commerce clause to pass this type of abortion ban. and after that, we really move into the political arena, which is, frankly, i am not sure this is a winner for republicans. we know that the dobbs decision overturning roe v. wade has been motivating for one party. and it really is the democrats. they now have seen what can happen. it is not just worry about what will happen, it's actually states are banning abortion. and i think lindsey graham is trying to gin up some support from republicans who are saying oh, great, we would be able to vote fo

and outside forces came to the roe v. wadeing, you have you all day, texas -- you have, uvalde, texas, -- you have the election -- inflation reduction act that makes corporations pay their fair share with minimum tax and lowering prescription drug costs of point is we did not have a positive or negative message in may but now, we not only have a positive message but we have these two kind of contrasting messages line on abortion and social issues and other on the fact that republicans voted against all this stuff that the american people actually like. so, in traditional years you have a double-digit advantage of what we call the generic ballot. are you more likely to vote democrat or republican? given the fact that you have terrible job rating for the economy you should have double-digit advantages for the republicans. as tony said, they have not taken advantage of that. here is what i believe you with. may what democrats are on the defensive may 4 is where the coders got leaked. you keep voting you get the decision on aborti

and when they made their decision on roe v. wade, they looked at the precedent and looked at roe v. oked at the constitutional aspect of this and saw that there was no constitutionally protected right for an abortion listed in the constitution. that's why they took it out. the most important thing here is this took an important thing like abortion out of the hands of justices and put it back in the hands of elected officials at the state level, and the only reason that kamala harris said they're activists is because she doesn't like the ruling. >> in michigan voters will decide on a ballot initiative that will inshrine abortion rights into the state constitution. anti-abortion activists have been compared to the dog that caught the car with the dobbs decision and you have to wonder whether the dog is going to get run over now because it looks to be the case in state after state, voters are going to be showing up at the polls in droves to make their voices heard on this. >> you remember when kavanaugh said this wasn't just precedent, roe v. wade, but it was -- but kasie was precedent

you have roe v. wade the law of the land.ter the dobbs decision we see it clearly the case that the politicians have to take a more nuanced position in sync with opinions of the general public which are not total us and either extremes. at the moment the issue seems to be the burden on republicans to talk about why they do not favor total ban on abortion and some of these republican candidates masters in arizona for senate candidate scrubbing websites saying they are only against late-term abortion or partial birth abortions. i think we republicans have the opportunity to present democrats on this because it's basically an article among democrats that there should be no restrictions on abortion. the question is, in the coming debates, if the republicans present democrats, what are they going to say? i think most are reluctant to talk about what restrictions more in sync with the general public they be willing to support so is a big public debate, that's what we thought would happen if roe v. wade were overturned, is occurring

roe v. wade was proved law. authorized law. all those voted against roe v. de, so they told a lie in their confirmation hearing. host: that is michael out of florida. this is david in flint, michigan. caller: good morning. i agree with the vice president and anybody who is honest with themselves would agree with her. this court has become so activist for the republican party. the last three justices they have put on our straight conservative republicans. there is no doubt. the decisions they are making are going to have a bad effect on the united states and that guy from georgia that thinks republicans are going to win, he is going to be surprised because we are doing everything we can to get votes for the democrats so we can hopefully expand the court and get some balanced judgment. at the point they are at now, they are going to try to change the united states into a conservative, fascist government. have a nice day. i am just telling the truth and i hope everybody will be blessed and have a nice week. host: in terms of getting democrats to the polls, democ

that is odd because that is what roe v. wade did, and today are embracing roe v. wade. the radical democrats on this committee just a year ago, voted in lockstep to pass the most radical abortion bill lifting any restrictions on abortion. that was the woman's health protection act. everybody, every democrat did in the house, except for one. senator claire. it failed in the senate. i say is interesting. the fact that you're saying wait a second, there are state louse that might conflict with what we believe. the new orthodoxy. that is exactly what roe v. wade did. i did not hear any republicans or conservatives say let's pack the court. you should hear it now. that is one of the articles i will submit for the record. to list democrats who call for packing the court because they do not like the dobbs decision. a minute ago the gentleman from maryland said let's not go down the way of saudi arabia and iran, apparently he would go down the way of china and north korea. that is what the bill he voted for did. took away all restrictions on abortion. that is pretty radical if

largely because of the roe v wade that's energized democrats and gas prices.ome food prices are coming down and that has been a republican winning argument in terms of giving them back power. but the january 6 kennedy, jamie raskin a member had a great quote he said were like cinderella we sort of expire at midnight and so at the end of the year, that committee does dissolve if you will unless democrats are able to hold onto power so they need to wrap up their work pretty quickly and write that full comprehensive report that they've been working on all summer. they are still juggling a few things but the report is their iomain priority. is there going to be a select committee on hunter biden, what areid they saying? >> they've promised to investigate not only hunter biden and some of his business dealings. they have said that they are going to investigate the investigation of january 6th. they believed that it was purely for political purposes. democrats would disagree, but that is certainly one of the areas. members on the far right have talked already about

they overturn roe v. wade, ended the right to abortion, and upended the lives of millions of people. and the consequences have been harsh and swift. women sobbed in clinics and they had their abortions canceled. their personal healthcare decisions overruled, their futures thrown into jeopardy, and their control over their own bodies taken away. it was heartbreaking, terrifying, enraging, and barbaric. and that was just day one. since then the devastating repercussions of republicans cruelty continued to crash around us. women unable to get abortions for any reason, healthcare providers unable to do their jobs without risking prison, patients with lupus, kansas, arthritis and more denied the medications that they need. complete uncertainty for people planning their futures as access to plan b and ivs have been thrown into jeopardy. and republicans response to this devastation is to discuss how they can push even further. be even harsher, take even more power away from patients and scare even more doctors out of

party is right now on abortion. >> and david, given the spike in female voter registration after roe v. wadete this proposed ban could have a similar impact? >> well, i don't think it will have as big of an impact as roe v. wade being overturned. but i think this is part of that narrative that we've seen now in five house special elections since the dobbs decision came down, anderson, where the democrat overperformed what joe biden did in those districts in 2020. the democrat overperformed joe biden in each of those house special elections. as you noted, you saw the registration surge, the huge turnout in kansas. it's clear the issue has shifted the landscape. i think the question here is, is it sufficient for democrats to save their majorities, given the overwhelming concern about inflation and the economy that still exists in the electorate? >> yeah. and still a lot of time before midterms. >>> coming up, more on the queen and her legacy involving world war ii. plus my discussion with filmmakers ken burns and lynn novak about a new documentary on sunday, the u.s. and the holocaust. it exam

>> what democrats support broadly is restoring the status quo roe v wade but we are fort roe v wade forhe other side is going to ban abortion in all 50 states, that is choice. i'll leave it to individual candidates to save their individual positions. i'm telling you right now if you care about your reproductive freedom predicate think politicians should not be making these decisions that women, their doctors in the family make these decisions, that is what democrats support. if you care at all about marriage equality but if you care about your reproductive choices like in vitro fertilization or if you care about birth control for goodness sake, these are the privacy rights we used to have in the constitution that the maggot supreme court just tore up and threw away print that is the choice. >> do support any at all? >> there's always restrictions on abortion embedded in the decision. anyone who read it knows it meant there is a balancing test there was a compromise between viability early on in pregnancy and later in pregnancy. that was the common sense of that framework. what the maga

first, that roe v wade would be struck down. and second that republicans would propose a national ban on abortion. women across connecticut and the country are scared and angry. and to those who say those fears and outrage are unjustified, all you have to do is read their words. listen to what they say. they are promising thepe americn people that there will be a national ban on abortion. and to the people of connecticut who think we have a safe haven because our legislature and governor have courageously establish protections for roe v wade. and for women who come to connecticut seeking abortion services. and for doctors who depend on our safeguard, there will be no safe haven in this country. none. nowhere. if republicans go where they explicitly they arehe heading. i trust women with their doctors, and their clergyis and their family to make decisions about when and whether to become pregnant. whether to have children and when to terminate a pregnancy short of term. i trust women, not the government. not politicians to make t

overturning roe v. wade is now more likely to vote in the midterms because of which issue? gher than inflation. that is a dramatic impact if you look -- if you go back a couple months it was inflation, economy, inflation, economy. >> absolutely. and also frankly the fact that gas prices are receding as well is underscoring the impact that this is having here. i do think this is something that you see repeatedly. and there are multiple data points from the registration data to polls like the one that you've shown to some of the results we've shown, these special elections that show just how much people care about this. and i think republicans have been learning the lesson that when this decision came down as i was reading through it my first thought was really this puts republicans out of step with where they know the electorate is. roe really protected republicans who wanted to say i oppose abortion in all instances because at the end of the day they couldn't actually do anything about it. and some of the republicans i've talked to privately, they would never admit this in p

is liz cheney moderate republican who hailed overturning of roe v. wade?s pretty clear as an election strategy but even people like van jones on cnn are saying you were elected to be america's grandpa and the grumpy old man yelling guy thing is going to work and i agree. it's an election strategy to put trump up front, get people away from talking about record inflation, supply chain bombs and baby formula shortage, not shutting down the virus going into an election with these issues that are table issues and this isn't recent behind me, by the way. kennedy: what a wonderful country, thank you for bringing that up because it's a dracula's place. so jessica, stephen brought up row and it's one thing for the vice president to go out and forcefully state the case against the overturning of roe v. wade which is one of the few things even her supporters would say she kind of did that well, what is the bigger issue for democrat voters? is it roe or inflation? >> i think it will always be inflation for everybody. have to plead with your pocketbook and it's a luxu

it would drive a stake through the heart of the last vestiges of roe v. wadeeralize the antiabortion right wing politics of the supreme court. >> we should have a law at the federal level that would say after 15 weeks, no abortion on demand except in cases of rape, incest, to save the life of the mud there, and that should be where america is at. i look forward to the debate. i look forward to the vote. if we take back the house and the senate, i can assure you will have a vote on our bill. >> this bill, if passed, would make the same type of abortion ban that was actually at issue in dobbs v. jackson women health, that's a mississippi law that was an issue in that case. that's the case that the court used to get rid of federal abortion rights. it would make that mississippi law effectively the law of the land. keep in mind, up until now, we republicans including lindsey graham have been insisting they wanted row overturned because the right to an abortion orbit portion restrictions should be left up to the individual states. >> the point i'm trying to mate is

the jane collective, a group of chicago women who provided over 11,000 illegal abortions before roe v. wade. >> i had an abortion through them and it was the best medical experience i ever had. >> reporter: in 1972 police arrested seven women in connection to the secret operation. the charges were later dropped. >> there were 11 counts of conspiracy to commit abortion. 110 years for each of us. that's a long time. >> reporter: called on jane for an abortion and later volunteered. >> it was an incredible lesson in sisterhood. nobody wants to break the law when they are trying to help people, but we had no choice. >> reporter: with the supreme court's to overturn roe v. wade in june, the former janes say their work is relevant today. >> we have, especially men, in washington passing laws that know nothing about the human body. >> anger. sorrow. we're back having to deal with these same issues. >> reporter: decades after the janes outlaw ways, the fight over access to abortions goes on. charlie de mar, cbs news, chicago. >>> still ahead on the "cbs weekend news," finding a perfect blend betwee

party is right now on abortion. >> and david, given the spike in female voter registration, after roe v. wadeyou anticipate that this proposed ban could have a similar impact? >> i don't think it will have as big of an impact as roe v. wade being overturned, but i think that this is part of that narrative that we've seen now in five house special election since the dobbs decision came down, anderson, where the democrat has overperformed with what joe biden did in the district just two years ago in 2020. they didn't win all of those, but the democrat overperformed what biden is doing in each of those house special elections. as you noted, the registration surged, the huge turnout in kansas, it is clear the issue has shifted the landscape. i think the question here is, is it sufficient for democrats to save their majorities given the overwhelming concern about inflation and the economy that still exists in the electorate. >> yeah. and still a lot of time before midterms. david, kristen, thank you very much. coming up, more on the queen and her legacy, involving world war ii, plus m y discussion

overturning roe v. wade was a historic occasion that signals a new beginning for millions of unborn american babies. now the future of saving lives rests with the american people and their elected officials in the states, but this work is not finished. family planning opportunities need to be expanded and methods need greater access to services that will support them and her baby the route and after the pregnancy. i am looking for to informing the american public by the supreme court's decision is a positive development for our country and setting the medical directors straight in the face of pro-abortion for mongering. i appreciate ranking member bird for yielding the opportune to lead this income to use my knowledge and background as an ob/gyn to deliver a baby nearly every day for 25 years as well as held the hands of hundreds of women suffering miscarriages, ectopic pregnancies, infertility and life-threatening complications. having delivered more than 5000 babies and supervise family clinics i like to d

dehumanized and called far right extremist for believing we have a voter, supporting the overturning of roe v. wade, believing the debacle in afghanistan was just that, a debacle. ultimately stepping back. it's really about two things for democrats. roe v. wade and abortion and the 2016 -- the 2020 election. if we took every democrat who called into question the 2016 election and said you are extreme and you can't run again they would lose half their caucus. they take a guy like bolduc who say election denier, extremist, maga republican. don't allow them to do this. these candidates are mainstream republican candidates who deserve the support of mitch mcconnell and he needs to stop running around and criticizing the strength of candidates as opposed to pouring money in to support the winner. $53 million is a drop in the bucket for democrats. they are trying to prep the field for candidates they like. i don't think it will work. i hope not. >> harris: it helps the establishment in washington, d.c. retain some oxygen in the room for themselves and it really divides the party. i'm curious to know how

and i first heard that roe v. wadeurned, there was a feeling of frustration. >> i'm 18, and i'm a freshman in decatur, georgia. >> i live in albuquerque, new mexico. i am the mother of sophie. >> when i heard roe v. wade was overturned, i immediately called my mom. we just talked about how mad it made us and how angry. >> if anything, i felt kind of relieved that i would be going to a women's college that focuses on women's leadership. after the supreme court decision was leaked, the university of michigan created a task force to address abortion access. both in the case of a ban on abortion or if abortion remained legal in certain states. >> the united states has a history of denying rights, especially when it comes to one's health for black wom. astudent leaders, we are working with the administration to talk about what our health options on her clinic on campus for students who need them. >> i am the coleader of the life ministry on her campus. we spend our saturdays uplifting those nonviolent resources in the commu

just the latest political volley now that the supreme court has overturned roe v. wade, but california is taking action to fight back. gavin newsom announced a new website to provide abortion information and access. join in this now is secretary amy tong. thank you for joining us today. this website launched today. abortion.ca.gov. tell us what it offers. >> it is resources we are presenting developed in partnership with planned parenthood as well as the department of public health and technology. it is an effort to have all of the information that we believe would be helpful for those seeking reproductive resources. >> i want to pull it up to give our viewers a sense of what it looks like. there it is. tell us, how do you find a provider. >> there is a find your provider . if you know the city, you can enter that. or if you simply want a full list, you can just click on that as well to give you an entire statewide map. if you do narrow it down to a particular area. >> are these vetted? >> yes, there was quite a bit of involvement with community input. these locations a

you know, you've got roe v. wade being andra turned.factor -- there certainly going to rile up the geo -- you see what's happening with ron desantis and so on. could this, do you think, that could also fire democrats? >> i don't actually think so. i think as much as republicans are focused on immigration, they're also focused on the economy, inflation, cost of living. there was a big nbc news survey over the weekend and they asked a very simple question, what's more important to your vote. i had tributes on dealing with cost of living or -- cost of living was 59%, abortion was 37. i actually think the discipline republican campaign can use make use of immigration -- the real issues of the economy and inflation. democrats are obviously choosing to focus on something else, but the biggest issue in the race is never going away. the discipline to stay on it is what's critical for republican campaigns. you >> said the discipline -- do you think they're all disciplined? i'm asking because i do stick this excellent about the quality of republi