roger stone? roger's my mentor. i e-mail, ari, with roger, 15 times a day, okay? and we had a big disagreement during 2016, because once again, as you know, and i've been honest about this. i wanted trump to lose. i didn't care if trump lost. i thought it would be funny. >> why won't you hand it over? >> because i talked to them. i've spent money on an attorney. i've cooperated with them. and when i got something like this, and then they wanted me to go to the grand jury next friday, and i believe they're trying to start a case against roger, and the reason i believe that is corre that is correct, ari. >> you are holding a subpoena from bob mueller's office. >> by the way -- >> just so we have the facts, that's what you're holding. >> yes, it's a requirement. >> to get documents on those people and for to you go in the grand jury room. why do you think after you did the other interview do they want to make you go in the grand jury room? >> because they're trying to set up a perjury case against roger, and i'm not going to have it. he is like family to me, and i'm

roger mcnamee? am glad we have a chance to do that here today. roger: so i grew up in albany, new york. i had a wonderful childhood. i had health problems as a kid. i developed a condition at age two. at 10, i had a traumatic injury that required life-saving surgery. it was one of those experiences you come through and it forms your personality in an interesting way. emily: how did this impact you as a child? roger: i became more introverted and essentially, i got used to having to go my own way because the digestive disorder i had from age two, meant i could not eat anything that had any grain in it. you grew up without birthday cakes, cookies, bread, and cereal. you have to develop tremendous self-control. you are going -- you are going to become an investor, what are some traits that are really useful? emily: did you want to become an investor? roger: i knew nothing about it. when i look back, the experiences of zero to 10 had a huge influence. it was that willingness to do it my own way. to be d

to put up a case against roger stone and i'm not going to have it, roger is my mentor, and he's likeily to me and i'm not going to do it. >> and sam nunberg argued that stone got himself into this mess. >> i said to roger, you're giving yourself a lot of exposure, claiming you're in communication with julians assange. >> did mueller ask you about trump's communication with julian assange? >> which brings us to question two, why did roger stone promote wikileaksing in 2016 but trump the can bat touted wikileaks more than 20 times during the campaign. >> he is a courageous journalist who has an incredible track record for authenticity. say this about julian assange, i reject the idea that he's a russian asset. i reject the idea that wikileaks is a russian front. >> and the person who made this documentary i just excerpted said that stone was trying to arrange a personal visit to assange during the campaign. >> in july and in june of 2016, we -- he told us that he was trying to meet with julian assange, we spoke with him about the possibility of bringing our crew to london to film them

roger: i did. starting my career, being assigned to cover technology meant the first rule of wall street is timing is everything. emily: so were you smart or were you lucky? roger: i was totally lucky. you can explain my entire career on the basis of a great starting day and being assigned to the sector that was the dominant growth sector of the u.s. economy for my entire career. pure dumb luck. i get there, things go up, things go down. they create this thing called the science and technology fund 19 days before the crash in 1987. the thing is down 31% in a month. they say, roger, why don't you take over? i said, cool, but you have to do it my way. they said, this is what i love about t. rowe, they said, fine, do it your way. i spent 120 days a year traveling. institutional investors and top analysts were doing 29 company visits a year. i was doing 400 face-to-face meetings with companies. nobody had done that before. this is the late 1980's. it worked so well in tech. emily: you went on to cofoun

roger was a great athlete.seb and i in later years about had he been around in our day and had better tracks and better shoes and better training methods he would have beaten us. he was one of the cleverest people i think i've ever met, and he was, in equal measure, modest as well. he never really got what he did and it wasn't a front. laura muir is the most recent athlete to continue great britain's middle distance tradition, giving everything to win a silver medal at the world indoor championships this weekend. she studied medicine to become a vet, and recognises her link to bannister. i think he was very influential and very sort of inspirational to a lot of people, and to me, that you can combine, you know, academics and running. sir roger bannister was knighted in 1975. athletics was only a small part of his life. he regarded his work as a neurologist as more significant. when he was diagnosed with parkinson's disease he described the gentle irony that a neurologist should find himself with a neurological

roger said my father played an important part because he set the right pace, roger was imploring hims flowing, my father said he couldn't go faster but that shows you the sort of humility of each of them. and chris chataway took the third lap, but it was roger who was the athlete that could and believed and they all believed that roger could break that four mill mile and he did on that day and it is a moment of sporting history. —— four minute mile. day and it is a moment of sporting history. -- four minute mile. your father nearly scuppered the whole achievement of sir roger bannister, he worried that he nearly gave him knew mopeia, tell us about that? so the training, they used to train at hurling ham and paddington rec. that i were doing 400 metre reps and 12 of them, two minute recovery and they couldn't get it under 60 seconds so my father and roger went climbing in north wales. my father used the world bundled roger into a car, an open top car, they drove up to north wales and went climbing and they didn't do any running but it was in doing that climbing they rested their bodie

roger worked for him for decades.hat do i don't think of these men who talk to each other once a week but are putting each other on blast on tv? >> it's sort of the nature of new relationships that are colored not social media, but these new types of internet media. roger stone will sometimes be a guest host on info wars. randy critico pushes out journalism but commentary with some reported elements given that his interviews with julian assange are in and of themselves newsworthy. >> sure. >> it is interesting that he is by all accounts given the information right before that interview. critico is his favorite political journalist. that's something to keep in mind as you're watching this number. the fact they're all friendly, they're part of this broader constellation of characters in trump's orbit who have made the russia story so weird and interesting. you wouldn't necessarily expect that someone who can do a spot-on richard nixon impersonation is going to be involved in federal investigations into russians' meddlin

roger got a great deal of attention out of it, that is part of roger's brand is to attract attentionmself. and that was a very key part of the campaign at the time and we put that in to reflect who was the historical record. >> i appreciate you coming on the show two nights in a row with all the news you have hadnd broken. and i know that you and i spoke and roger spoke it out and i have interviewed him in the past, he also interviews me in that post, referred to me as a stone hater, i wasn't a stone hater the last time i had him on the show and i will reiterate that the invitation to appear on the the show still stands. >>> and trump's inner circle. 19 indictments so far, and represent bob gaetz says that -- >>> more women claiming relationships with the president, a lot of news there later in our hour, and donald trump's attorney michael cohen also responding to "the beat" he has a response on my report on hush money and i will show you a fact check on that later tonight when "the beat" continues live from washington, d.c. ♪ this is what our version of financial planning looks like

and neurologist says: sir roger bannister, rip., and in brackets, not bad as an athlete either. and philip hearsay and: roger bannister and his contemporaries trained in lunch hours, trained on cinder tracks, had no mod cons and his and his achievements were incredible. —— philip here saying. amazing to be an athlete and a neurologist and a master of an oxford college. an incredible life. when asked what he was most proud of who said his achievements in medicine. he was also the first chairman of the sports council, so achievement in sports councilrsorachievement—in ’jf more —fl%i m h bringing bannister, bringing those sporting events to the general public. an incredible legacy in so many fields. he will be very sadly missed. he certainly will. for the moment, thank you. olly foster is at the bbc sport centre. in a world of sport, such a gigantic, iconic figure, and tributes are coming in for sir roger bannister. absolutely and alike to celebrate in athletics, even though he himself, as andy moore was saying, he would consider his a

55%. >> roger stone? >> yes. they can say whatever they want me abo about me. they're doing a terrible job. >> are they trying to do a coordinated hit job on you by saying about your state of mind? >> i don't know. this is the first time i've heard about this. they are more than -- they can do whatever they want. >> i wanted to give you chance to respond because it's something people are talking about. it's important you have a chance to respond to it, sam. >> i would once again say that sarah huckabee is a terrible press officer. trump has a 38% approval rating. that the republicans are going to lose the house in the midterm. that's a fact. they can say whatever they want about me. they have treated roger and me terrib terribly. roger won't say that. >> he won't. that's not what he said at all. when we reached out to him about what you've been saying that he's been treated terribly. i'm going to look for his exact quote. he said that i was briefly part of the trump campaign and have been the president's

roger stone distanced himself. >> roger stone is president trump's boy. so the question is trump was involved in the strategic release of the e-mails, stone is talking to wikileaks about the e-mails. >> roger stone would protect him. if they're both pretending they're not friends with each other and he was fired together, roger stone would protect donald trump. >> wouldn't he be purgering himself? >> of course. >> the crime is a conspiracy to

i'm not going to testify against roger. roger did not do anything. roger was treated terribly by donald trump. >> and he's one of donald trump's oldest advisers. >> yeah, but trump is the most disloyal person you're ever going to meet. they definitely had -- they definitely had roger stone's. mails. they asked me questions about roger stone's e-mail -- they asked you questions about roger and me that they would only have had roger's e-mails. i'm worried that they're trying to make a case against roger, that they're maneuvering -- >> and what would that case be built on? >> i have no idea. i have no idea. >> would it relate to wikileaks? >> i can tell you once again -- >> would it relate to wikileaks? >> it could relate to wikileaks. >> roger stone says nunberg was not speak at his behest or direction but stone's relationship with trump, candidate trump and president trump are likely to be of interest to the special counsel. sam nunberg's reappeated defens of stone yesterday and his reluctance to turn over e-mails with him perhaps raised more red flag

i'm not going to testify against roger. roger did not do anything. roger was treated terribly by donald trump. >> nunberg's loyalty to roger stone wasn't the only thing he told ari pemelber. he went further about the mueller process and donald trump. >> i know mueller, i know the whole team, they probably have something on trump. trump did something pretty bad. i think they were interested with something with his business. >> with his business. did they ask you how he ran his business? >> yes. by the way, i have no idea what he did. >> nunberg went even further at a later point to suggest whatever it is the president might have done could have an impai impact on the president's preferred news network. by the way, you're going to be fine when it comes out what he did. but people like sean hannity, lou dobbs, they're going to be very embarrassed when it comes out. >> the white house, however, is dismissing nunberg's claims about any potential case against this president. >> i think he doesn't know that for sure because he's incorrect. as we've said man

>> roger is going to do what roger is going to do. we're very stubborn people.ent is different than mine. i don't believe jewel jan assange is a journalist. i don't believe that when julian assange releases information that shows methods, shows who is helping the united states. that's not the same as releasing the pentagon papers which is a study showing -- >> fair enough. but you do believe roger stone met with wiki sfleeks. >> no. i believe he told me he did. >> what did he tell you. >> i was trying to reach roger. we can talk 15 times a week or cannot reach him for two weeks. i said where have you been? he said i met with julian assange. >> now he says he was joking. here is what roger stone says about this this week to "the washington post." >> i wish him no ill will, sam can man eye cli and persistently call you. >> true, by the way. >> stone said recalling nunberg had called him on a friday to ask about his plans for the weekend. i said i think i'll go to london and meet with assange. the idea i would meet with him is ridiculous on its face. >> alisyn, in

roger black remembering the life and achievements of sir roger bannister, who has died at the age ofrhetoric on trade tariffs, threatening to impose additional taxes on cars imported to america from europe. the eu had said it would retaliate in kind if mr trump carried out an earlier threat to apply tariffs on imports of steel and aluminium. andrew plant reports. the white hot glow of steel. this multi—billion—dollar global industry has sparked heated threats of trade tariffs and friction between the us and europe. it is disgraceful and when it comes to a time when our countries... on thursday, donald trump announced plans to levy a 25% tax on steel imports and 10% on aluminium. the current deals, he said, bad for the us economy. european commission president jean—claude juncker said the eu could retaliate in kind with tariffs of its own on things the us sells to europe. we buy more steel from the united states than any other country. canada too opposed the idea. justin trudeau urging mr trump to reconsider. significant and serious. now donald trump has hit back, threatening to incre

tributes have been pouring in to sir roger bannister.the international association of athletics federations, lord seb coe, gave his reaction. he was one of the cleverest people i think i have ever met, and he was in equal measure modest as well. he never really got what he did. and it wasn't a front, hejust said, i am quite lucky. i don't think the enormity of what he did came to life for me until i actually had the great privilege, and we both knew him well, of sitting in his sitting room, and we were comparing training diaries. and i think it's fair to say, you know, we were probably doing in a day and a half, two days, what these guys were doing in a week and a half, maybe two weeks. and when you look at the times he achieved off the back of what was really quite thin training. he had got friends, they were beginning to use the science of the sport and exploring, and of course he had a medical background, but when you look at the time, and people sort of dismiss the four—minute barrier. more people have individually climbed everest th

he is a fan of roger stone. very close to roger stone. think he was sort of lashing out here saying i am not going to participate, i gave five and a half hours of interviews to the fbi and they know everything they need to know. obviously the fbi, the special counsel will have something to say about that. there's also a question of whether, i don't know, was he looking at an e-mail, he wouldn't tell me this, was he looking at something incriminating that was in the e-mail? we don't know the answer to that. maybe, maybe the special counsel does because he has the e-mails. >> he wants to have his cake and eat it too. he came out today to say look, i am not a snitch, but at the same time distance himself from president trump. he is trying to play both sides. >> as you point out, jeffrey, he already spent five and a half hours answering questions from mueller's team. >> right. i would hesitate before assuming there was any grand strategy to what sam nunberg has been doing. i mean, he seemed like to use a technical term, a whack job for most o

roger was treated terribly by trump.p is the most disloyal person you're going to ever meet. >> trump has delivered to some institutions of higher learning the biggest embarrassment in their history. donald trump is the biggest embarrassment to pennsylvania university wharton school. there is no other graduate who believes that trade wars are good and easy to win. surely the rest of the graduates of wharton wharton know that no country has won a trade war. but donald trump is disgracing wharton by threatening a trade war that will kill american jobs. but tonight a little school on long island has reached a level of embarrassment that it could not see coming. sam nunberg is a graduate of r toro law school, one of our youngest law schools. we don't know what grades he got at toro law school. but today he sounded like someone who wasn't taking a single note during those courses. >> roger stone is like a surrogate -- he's like my father. >> you feel loyal to him? >> and i'm not going to go in there for them to set up a case

roger is my mentor.like a surrogate father to me and i'm not going to do it. >> carry, what is sam saying? roger stone saying i have nothing to hide. nothing to see on wikipedia. sam nunberg obviously thinks somehow otherwise. >> we don't know what nunberg motivation was for his sir kiss of media appearances yesterday. what i can tell you is we really shouldn't under estimate the stress that can be caused by somebody coming under the glare of a really intense federal investigation. and so one possible theory is that he really was upset, unsettled, scared, you know, you name the word, by receiving this subpoena, by his experience being interviewed by the special counsel's office recently, and it just sort of set him into a spin. and if that's what happened, then it would make sense that perhaps over the next few days he will obtain some legal counsel and reconsider his approach in working with the special counsel. it's also possible that his initial reaction was that he was trying to shield somebody who h

>> i don't know. >> and if it's roger, i'm not going to testify against roger. roger did not do anything. >> at a certain point, he also hit his limit, he cancelled a planned interview this morning with another network and ultimately asked for the cameras following him to be turned off. >> stop. >> late last night, off camera, i'll tell you i spoke to mr. nunberg as well as his father, they do appear to be working through this. and it would be easy enough to dismiss mr. nunberg or just judge him from afar. in a short time he was saying he was a cooperative witness, to a defiant one to tonight pledging cooperation. he may have simply lived out in public what many people caught up in these situations feel in private. he could also be easy to consume this spectacle while claiming a kind of distance from it, in fact i see people in washington tonight, people who live off scandal and clicks, now declaring this particular one was suddenly too much for them. but the legal import of these stories, of mr. nunberg and tonight mr. stone and soon other witnesses is not the

roger black remembering sir roger bannister. just getting confused with the two rogers! moving on.ted that the eu is likely to reject theresa may's plan to keep a soft border between northern ireland and the republic after brexit. mrs may says the uk will leave the single market and customs union but insists there will be no return to barriers and checks on the border. here's our political correspondent suzana mendonca. it's 310 miles long, 30,000 people cross it every day, and more than £1 billion a week is done in trade across the border between the uk and the republic of ireland. when britain leaves the european union, this currently invisible border will become its frontier with the eu and all sides want to keep it invisible. the question is how, considering britain doesn't want to stay in the single market or customs union. we are committed, the irish government, all the parties in northern ireland, to making sure there is no hard border. the prime minister says a soft border could be kept intact through the use of technology and no new trade restrictions on smaller businesses

roger stone said this. i was briefly part of the trump campaign and have been the president's friend and advisor for decades and would expect that mueller's team would at some point ask for any documents or e-mails sent or written by me, but let me reiterate, i have no knowledge or involvement in russian collusion or any other inappropriate act. >> what say you? >> he strikes me as somebody who stayed too late at an academy award party last night. these stramts completely bizarre. when you receive a grand jury subpoena, it is a good sign in some respects. it means you're probably not the target of the investigation. if they're targeting you, previous to advise you of your right to remain silent and give you a whole host of warnings before they call and you there's a justice department policy against calling targets into the grand jury. it is unfair to them. they should take the fifth amendment. it is a good sign. but secondly, if you defy a grand jury subpoena, it is a very serious thing. you're almost auto

roger is my mentor. roger is like family to me.'m not going to do it. >> what has happened in the last 24 hours that's made you -- >> i'm not -- >> -- change your mind on this? >> when i was going over everything today, when i looked back at the subpoena, this is ridiculous. it was absolutely ridiculous. and you know what? i'm not a fan of donald trump, as you well know. katy, do you know that? >> you've said it. >> i'm not a fan of his. he treated vorn eed roger and m badly and he screwed us over during the campaign. but you know, here, when i get a subpoena like this, roger's right, it's a witch hunt -- i mean, mr. trump's right. it's a witch hunt. the president's right. it's a witch hunt. and i'm not going to cooperate! >> why do i have to spend 80 hours going over my e-mails? that i've had with steve bannon and with roger stone? why does bob mueller need to see my e-mails when i send roger and steve clips and we talk about how much we hate people? >> sam, you were on the campaign early on. you were there when donald trump was d

roger. roger is my mentor. i support roger. we were treated very badly by trump. but i'm not going in there. >> so it sounds like there are two things you're objecting to, correct me if i'm wrong. one is you think it would take too much time and you think the request is ridiculous for all the e-mails and texts and whatever between and you steve bannon, paul manafort, rick gates, et cetera. >> i'll send this to you afterwards so you can sight. and they asked me about communications with carter page. do you think i would communicate with carter page? he's a scum bag. >> so the answer is no, you would not communicate with carter page. >> no. and he was colluding with the russians. >> so carter page was communicating with the russians, you think. >> yes. i believe carter page was colluding with the russians. >> if that's true, he was an adviser to the trump campaign -- >> he was not really an adviser, jake. do you really think he was an adviser? he was a name on the list. let's be honest about t

roger is my mentor. roger is like family to me. stone is like my father. >> you feel loyalty him. >> and i'm not going go in there for them to set up a case against roger. >> are you worried about getting arrested? >> i think it would be funny if they arrested me. >> you're held in contempt of court. wouldn't you have higher legal bills. >> it would be funny if they wanted to arrest me because i don't want to spend 80 hours going over e-mails i had with steve bannon and roger stone. >> john heilemann, i want to explain to people that are -- well, let me bring in joyce here. joyce, just because -- i brought this up yesterday and i just -- i knew people would say oh, it's a witch-hunt that bob mueller is asking for this information, all of these e-mails. this is the first thing any lawyer does in a civil case, in a criminal case. it's called discovery and you mediately a clean swp. you want all the e-mails, you want all the text messages, all communications on all devices pertaining to the matter at issue so for nunberg to call this

and roger did not talk. roger may have lied about it -- >> are you basing that view trying to use you to get to roger based on a theory or based on the question sthas asked you? >> based on the questions they asked me. i had no idea in advance what they wanted for the grand jury. but what they did tell me was i wasn't going to be a subject or a target, and i was going to get the same kind of immunity. but they wanted something. >> joyce, i think we heard here the honor among thieves? you will, the ability to be quite proud about loyalty as a value but not truth there you have his best friend saying he may lie because that's okay, but he's not going give up trump. tell me what the prosecutors are going -- given the fact this nunberg saying i'm loyal to roger. roger he says is loyal to trump. how are they going unravel all of this and use them against each other back to trump? >> it's really crazy. the most important thing we know about the rule of law is witnesses don't get to decide who they will testify aga

>> they want me to testify against roger. >> they want to you testify against roger?they want me to say that roger was going around telling people he was colluding with julian assange. that's what they want. >> and that did not occur according to you? >> no. it did not. >> what do you think? >> well, there is the talk that wikileaks, julian assange, a lot of information with the clinton campaign moved through there. and roger stone has, as roger stone does, has been very hard to pin down over time about contacts with assange or wikileaks. i appreciate bill's perspective taking it seriously. but as a piece of theater, he i mean, what way doing? i mean, i know that sounds dumb of the what lawyer could have possibly told you, hey, do you know what would be good? if you're going to reject the subpoena from mueller, you should go on television and call him an idiot. that will really endear him to you. i think there's a broader point, page, nunberg, these are people who wouldn't have been involved in a presidential campaign of any sort other than donald trump, no one of the

he's saying roger stone is a mentor. roger stone is my friend.fy, or i'm not going to go in front of this grand jury. i'll go to jail before i give up my friend, roger stone. knowing that roger stone and paul manafort are past business partners, it shows the scope of -- possibly the scope of where mueller is going in this investigation, away from donald trump and back to paul manafort and possibly roger stone. >> maria, talk of defying a subpoena is one thing. then going on national television multiple times to argue about it is another. where do you see this going from here? >> i completely agree with you. this was a complete political debacle today, and sadly a personal one for sam nunberg. but a political debacle for trump and his team. the reason i say that is because, yes, they are going to try to defile his credibility, and sam himself has not done himself any favors with his credibility in terms of his history and even in terms of what he did today. but let's remember mueller wants him to testify before the grand jury. that is not somethin

the mile had a deep history before roger did what he did.to the four minutes secured the mile as a british athletics institution, and we have a massive debt of gratitude. that's all from sportsday. there'll be more sport here on bbc news throughout the evening. aida edemariam has written an unusual biography — a rich and engrossing story of a woman of whom none of her readers will ever have heard. the wife's tale is the story of her own grandmother, born 100 years ago, and a picture of her country, ethiopia. it reads beautifully, as if it's told in her voice, a book that will take you gently and unforgettably into another world. welcome. what was the quality of this story, the potential in this story, that convinced you that people who had never known your grandmother and have never been to ethiopia would want to read it? it was listening to her, it was listening to her language, her words, her stories. i kind of knew that they would translate quite well into english and that they would work. you spoke to her and recorded her over a long per

his family said sir roger died peacefully in his sleep.

roger bannister has done it! he is out on his feet.ion. there was certainly a feeling of it being a national event, something of a landmark for the country. it might have felt like the country. it might have felt like the world stopped when that clock stopped. four minute mile was a sporting catchphrase everybody recognised. all i sporting catchphrase everybody recognised. all! can sporting catchphrase everybody recognised. all i can say is i am absolutely overwhelmed and delighted. it was a great surprise to me to be able to do it today and i think to me to be able to do it today and ithinki to me to be able to do it today and i think i was very lucky. sir roger bannister was knighted in 1975. athletics is only a small part of his life. he regarded his work as a neurologist as more significant. when he was diagnosed with parkinson's disease, he described the gentle irony that the neurologist should find himself with a neurological condition. training for roger bannister in athletics had been half an hour a day on a single track. the w

he's a protege of roger stone, a pro protege of roy cohn and protege of roger stone. the ones he wishes were by his side." msnbc contributor barbara mcquaide, former u.s. attorney, joins our merry gang. let me start with you about the revelation, i suppose, that at least in sam nunberg's mind, bob mueller already thinks donald trump may be guilty of something. >> i don't know how much stack to put in that, i suppose he's drawing inferences based on the questions he was asked in the interview that he participated in last week. i know in that interview, from last week, he talked about how impressed he was with their preparation, their professionalism, their charts, the evidence that they asked him about. but i don't know that we can draw a lot of conclusions based on that small snippet of the investigation that he got a chance to observe. >> how about when you marry it, barbara, with the reporting out just this afternoon in the "washington post" that bob mueller is now interested in h talking to the president's lawyer, michael cohen, who crossed over into all of trump's

and how that relates to roger stone. >> so sam worked for roger stone. they both worked for the donald trump campaign. early on in the beginning months of the campaign, and they both got let go relatively early. sam is a long-time gop analyst, a strategizer -- strategist, i should say -- not strategizer. any way, a long time gop strategist. he is not fringe, but that is best word to describe him. >> he is a unique operator. >> he operates with reporters in a way that a lot of people don't. >> a new york character. he was involved in getting donald trump prepared to announce -- he was going to run for president. getting him to hold the positions that he got. sam talks about how immigration was his policy. he talked about how the wall was his idea. he talked about why they decided to run on an immigration platform. he talked about in this interview, trying to tell donald trump that being on the side of russia wasn't necessarily the best thing for a gop primary. but at the same time, a gop primary would side with vladimir putin over siding with obama. he ta

roger did not talk, roger may have lied about it but roger did not talk -- >> are you basing that? >> i'm not going to go in there for them to set up a case against roger. he didn't do anything. >> roger is trained under richard nixon who has a tattoo of nixon's face on his back. that's a real -- that's roger stone. it was stone who connected paul manafort to the trump campaign which is an interesting detail given all that we know. during that campaign stone raised a lot of questions when he communicate online with russian cutouts and appeared to predict the hack of john podesta. this is what he tweeted in august 2016. "trust me, it will soon be to podesta's time in the barrel." later days before wikileaks released the podesta e-mails stone had a lot to say about its head julian assanging. > an intermediary met with him in london recently who is a friend of mine and a friend of his. a believer in freedom. and i am assured that the mother lode is coming wednesday. it wouldn't be an october surprise if i told you what it was. but i have reason to believe that it is devastating becaus

let's get more on the next nor'easter meteorologist karen rogers in for david murphy. that scarf will come in handy on>> repor we're dealing with winds related to the last it's kind of a chilly breeze. the coastal flood advisory impacting people from along the coastline. minor flooding could be causing road closures around the coast from that flooding, we're not done with that just yet. the windchill with the gusty breeze up to 25 miles per hour at times. feels like it's barely above freezing, 36 in allentown. 40 in cape may. usually in march we hope to feel better than that, temperatures for the day 45. we're talking temperatures below the average high of 49. 2:00 p.m., 44. 6:00 p.m., 42 degrees. 10:00 p.m. 35. wthill tsdt u erhen we oalnyker in w o future criminald he is working on universal bkgrolegislat>>> two women are in the hospital after interesting short in north physical. -- in north philadelphia. the attack happened in the home on 2900 block of north 5th street. 17-year-old and 27-year-old woman knew the suspect. they invited him inside, when the conversatio

trump and roger stone.don't want to know anything from me, because i wouldn't know anything about obstruction of justice. i wouldn't know anything. th it's been public through adam schiff and everybody else, they want to know the relationship roger had with julian assange. >> we can put up some of the key names. cohen, stone, bannon, manafort. did they ask you about each of those people? >> no, they did not. >> they didn't ask you about roger stone? >> excuse me, they asked me about roger stone, obviously, i didn't have a very close relationship with steve bannon, and my relationship with michael which i consider, i said to them, it's privileged, because he's a lawyer and i'm a lawyer. so i can't disclose things like that to them. >> one interesting thing about roger stone. everybody's trying to figure out, did he hurt himself by bragging too much about things he didn't do or did he disclose things that he did do. and we know that you are loyal to him, and you don't think i did anything wrong. in fairness t

given what he said yesterday, does that help roger stone? does it hurt roger stone? is there any credence to this idea that sam -- i mean, is it okay -- i don't know. what's the question? if he feels that way, can anybody point to him and say, i believe him the way that i believe susan? >> well, look, i don't think it matters what he thinks, quite honestly. i mean, i want to make one small point, which is, there are people all over the country in high-profile, low-profile, small, big cases who have to comply with subpoenas and have to talk about people who they're friends, have to give testimony against relatives. it's painful. it's hard. but that's how our justice system works. and that's what mueller and his team are thinking right now, not how does sam feel about this. i understand that it has a dramatic appeal and i thought your interview of him was incredible, the way you let him talk and then drew him out at the right moments. i mean, i was, mouth open the whole time and i'm not saying he shouldn't have been interviewed or shouldn't have talked, but in terms of

roger: i can't resist reacting to that news report.ed, but i don't want you to be humiliated. lisa: talking about mcmaster. david: we both know what that is about in all likelihood. for mcmaster being a four-star, they have to wait. i am speculating. roger: in terms of the question, there will be legislation. the senate bill or something almost exactly like it will come into law. i don't think the house will be able to change the senate version. this will take effect. second of all, it is quite meaningful. it is in part overdue and in part a little too much. ?isa: too much do you think this could potentially spur another buildup in banking leverage that could be threat to the system? i'm not saying that. there was good evidence that anding to small business the role of community banks and small banks was being hampered by the regulatory thrust of dodd-frank. an awful lot of people agree on that. that part of it was overdue. on the other hand, i think the idea of raising the ceiling to 250 billion in terms of institutions below which ar