fox without roger ailes and news corp.ut rupert murdoch, those news companies may not be around. >> what trend do you think this is headed in which direction? >> i think fox is going to keep doing what it's doing. it's reaching a wide audience, which makes it mind boggling that they still are able to strike this pose, like, we're the underdogs.

fox without roger ailes and news corp.ithout rupert murdoch, those news companies may not be around. >> what trend do you think this is headed in which direction? >> i think fox is going to keep doing what it's doing. it's reaching a wide audience, which makes it mind boggling that they still are able to strike this pose, like, we're the underdogs. >> at a certain point, you have to choose between taking on the kind of aggrievedness of the victim and the power of the powerful. david folkenflik, joe muto, ana marie cox, that is all in for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" begins right now. >>> thanks at home for joining us this hour. if you are watching this show right now, statistically speaking, there's a pretty good chance that you also like watching "the daily show." "the daily show" has been on the air for almost 20 years now. next year will be 15 years, with the show being hosted by the great jon stewart. "the daily show" airs on comedy central. and even though it handles very current events, sometimes even very

denominator roger ailes built his network looking for the low hanging fruit who were the. people that are going to believe these bizarre crazy stories that's how roger ailes built the news segment of fox news and so in effect one feeds the other it's never going to change you're just never going to have that that work itself out all that well let's not forget the during the nixon administration roger ailes proposed to richard nixon something called g.o.p. t.v. might happen tonio thanks so much for being with us thank you always great to see a bit coming up were republicans really well and to throw the global economy into chaos just to stop people from getting health care will find out after the break. as an. illegal it was a. very hard to take. so long. have you ever had that with me here. the feeling. of the futility of the political. brawl oh i so always never. surplus deficit. or boom bust. dramas that can't be ignored. stories others refused to notice. faces change the world lights never. told pictures of today's news. on demand from around the globe. dropped. to fifty

denominator roger ailes built his network looking for the low hanging fruit who are the. people that are going to believe these bizarre crazy stories that's how roger ailes built the news segment of fox news and so in effect one feeds the other it's never going to change you're just never going to have that that work itself out all that well let's not forget the during the nixon administration roger ailes proposed to richard nixon something called g.o.p. t.v. might happen tonio thanks so much for being with us thank you always great to see about coming up were republicans really well and to throw the global economy into chaos just to stop people from getting health care we'll find out after the break. wealthy british style. time to. market why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into kinds of reports . this is the media leave us so we leave the media for the scene motions to the play your part of the physical. issues that no one is asking with to get that you deser

the seed for this kind of behavior, the genesis, was rupert murdoch, or more accurately, roger ailes' crew doing this at one time. it was groundbreaking and sneaky back in. now it is sneaky, but garden- variety. >> people don't go on specifically to read the comments. is it really all that bad? just to play devils advocate here. >> it is important, because a lot of the action goes on in the comments. you can gauge popularity, and comments also pull in more hits, more eyeballs on the site. you leak -- deep forward five or six years to social media, where you are talking about tweets, favorites, and likes on facebook, and advertising content on facebook. just trying to get likes and eyeballs on the certain items. so it is very important in tracking how many are trying to look at the message you are putting out. and for countering the pushback. it is a double good whammy for them. >> perhaps fox news and others might be better served focusing on the news rather than commenting on it. >> that is not the business model and that is not what brings the eyeballs to the convergence of the site

was the seed for this kind of behavior however the genesis was rupert murdoch or more accurately roger ailes. crew doing this at one time so i mean it's really groundbreaking and sneaky back then now it's sneaky but you know garden variety you know at the same time though you know people don't go on specifically to read the comments so is it really all that bad i mean just to play devil's advocate here well even even back then it is important because a lot of the action goes on in the comments and you can gauge you know popularity and comments also pull in more hits more eyeballs on the site you know so you'd leap forward five years five six years to social media where you're not talking about comments you're talking about. you know tweets you're talking about read tweets are talking about favorite favorites to talk about likes on facebook and advertising content on facebook and you know just trying to get likes and eyeballs on these certain items so you know it's very important and it is very important tracking how many people are looking at what you're trying to message you're trying to pu

>> like, i think her thought was what fresh hell have roger ailes brought on me now?k, respond to this. i mean, what -- is that just -- >> i did not see that tape until right now, but there's that expression of megyn kelly, just absolutely priceless. >> listen, first things first. certain dippously, i visited the lincoln memorial the day before that paint-flinging incident. it's really important to secure those monuments and it's really cynical of her jumping on a plane, flying across the continent to jump in front of the parade. but, of course, ted cruz is the shiny object of the moment. he is the flavor of the month. and if you're sarah palin, you are groping for relevance. right now, sarah palin is a little like the seinfeld reruns that have been in syndication for a couple of decades. when you watch seinfeld, it's still funny, but you can tell it is of another time. and sarah palin used to make a lot of money filling arenas. now she can still make a living filling theaters. but it's not quite the same. so she has got to jump on the plane to do this cynical photo o

even roger ails has figured out that storage wars has higher ratings than sean hannity so someone iss crazy stuff. his ratings have dropped 35% throughout the year. his post o'reilly position -- oh, riley goes on the air, has a huge market, he goes on the air and loses 50% of the o'reilly audience, almost immediate llim. so he's in trouble and we're going to see more crazy drama out of sean hannity as this year progresses. >> stephanie, what effect do you think this has had on consumers? it is a constant barrage of anti health care. when i was overseas, people were asking what is it about the media in your country against health care and, of course, at the pin california of it all is, of course, sean hannity and his minions who flat out lie and twist stuff like this. with your audience, has it had an effect? >> i for one, ed, am shocked, there is dishonesty going on in fox news. this must be brand-new information for you, ed. i understand. but, you know, you're absolutely right. it is hurting people. that's what's sad, ed. they're trying to deliberately scare people away from the exc

mike rogers about the latest developments on the nsa surveillance, he's the president of the house intelligence community on "state of the union." >>> and the weekly address focussed on the ailingrocess. and fred upton said the individual mandate the requirement that nearly all americans buy health insurance should be delayed. upton's response comes after contractors who worked on healthcare.gov blame the government for the problems that have riddled the site. and guess who has been assigned to fix the mess the government contractors have helped to fix the site? a government contractor, jeffrey seins is the man who has been made the point repair, he's been given the job to get healthcare.gov fully operational by the end of november. >>> senator ted cruz who led the charge against obama care, well, he spoke in iowa today. >> let me tell you all right now the single biggest lie in politics. it is that republicans are the party of the rich. what complete nonsense. for a long time i've advocated what i call opportunity conservatism which is that every policy we think about, we talk about, should focus like a laser on easing the means of ascent up to the economic ladder. on how it i