i will say roger ailes in real time denied it. who represented him in the time i interviewed him denied it. readers can make that judgment for themselves. but the fact that they've changed their story years later, i think readers should focus on what was happening in 1995. >> an interesting detail i was surprised by in the book. you say at one point that ailes set up an anonmuss blog called the cable game to take shots at his rivals. seems he has been focused on his public image even behind the scenes. >> i want to talk about a couple things here. first of all, secrecy is paramount to understanding ailes. a chapter that goes back to his time in the mike douglas show where he talked to a colleague and said, you can have your back against the wall, and you can talk your way out of anything and that to me was a revealing moment and it was when ailes was in his late 20s many years ago because dodging and weaving and always having maximum options has been ailes' strategy. so using secret blogs to push his message out there. another thin

roger ailes surpassed the gop.e 2012 election, he said to his senior executives, we're going to have to do a lot to get this guy elected, meaning mitt romney. and he said to bill kristol, the editor of the "weekly standard," and at the time, a fox news contributor, that he did not think that mitt romney had the spine to, quote, rip obama's face off. so ailes, through fox, took it upon himself to run mitt romney's media strategy. and what was fascinating was that really, for the first time in american history, a republican candidate's war room was being run out of the headquarters of a news channel. mitt romney's war room was being run out of sixth avenue in midtown manhattan. >> we're seeing not much coverage of the christie scandal since it broke on fox. certainly nothing like the coverage that we've seen on something like benghazi, for example. is that an example of roger ailes exercising his power to be protective to somebody he thinks the may well end up being the republican nominee? we know from your book that

, reveals just how powerful a man roger ailes is. he new biography, gabriel sherman reports ailes said, quote, if you were president, he would send navy seals to the border. i would make it a requirement you would have to kill an illegal immigrant coming into the country. he says ailes supports immigration reform. but it's not just his gut instinct at work here. graham reports having personally met with roger ailes on this issue, quote, i met with him three to four times in person, talked to him a lot. graham also reveals that unnamed others met and lobbied on the issue in hopes of toning down what mr. graham described as vocal opposition on fox. graham concludes, the tone was different in the debate, and noto one-sided. it wasn't amnesty every 15 minutes. think about this. this is a united states senator, served in congress, arguably among the most well known members of the republican caucus. he's going to roger ailes to beg his indulgence. that's just a glimpse of the enormous power of this one individual who oversees a media empire

fox, even with different hosts, it's essentially one 24-hour product that's packaged by roger ailes. here's two ways thinking about fox and the role it plays in america. one is someone would discover a market for conservatives. and ailes happened to be the person. the other, there's something about roger ailes that he has some visceral gut connection to what that viewership wants to see that makes it work. >> exactly. and this has been a testament to his talent, that his career spans four decades going back to his work for richard nixon in 1968 as a television adviser. he developed a deep understanding of the frustrations and the resentments of the white middle class audience who felt left behind by the upheavals of the '60s. he uses that to relate stories on a visceral level. that's why fox works. because roger ailes understands that better than anyone else. >> i also thing one of the thing that comes through in the book and other reporting on this. if you were to characterize the modern gop and particularly a certain part of the gop, the 1%, it's a combination of a tremendous amount

roger ailes denies a lot of the allegations in the book. but there are stories after stories after stories in this book about how roger ailes is interested in influencing republican politics. and frankly in beating barack obama. there are parts in the book that talk about how he believed it was his duty to defeat barack obama because nobody else was going to. now of course we saw the results of the election. if you look at the results of the election that means roger ailes failed a year and a half ago in that election. but i think the book will get to those roots. and of course, if you're a fox fan, if you're a fan of roger ailes you won't believe a word of it, anyway. >> the thing that's interesting about roger ailes, you can appreciate he's some kind of genius. phenomenally successful. bill o'reilley is a book salesman with a tv show. don't know how he'll react to that. he told his inner circle i want to elect the next president. interesting today that fox has barely touched this chris christie story, maybe trying to protect their man. he

will kaine, sally kohn, thank you >>> another book exposes a man named roger ailes.ormer chairman of fox news. how he wanted to elect the next president of the united states? some allegations that are pretty serious, including offering a female employee an extra $100 a week for sex. a joke? appropriate? all that coming up in a moment. >>> the former chairman of fox news, current chairman of fox news, being accused of serious stuff right now. sexism and racism. and wanting to elect the next president of the united states. again, a news man. it's all part of a brand-new book called "the loudest voice in the room" that hits stores january 21st. and let's just say it is loud, explosive, in fact. and to say that fox news is not happy about it might be considered an understatement. i want to bring in brian stelter, cnn media correspondent and host of cnn's "reliable sources." let's just say right off the bat, this is not a book that roger ails or anyone at fox news took part in, was interviewed or, correct? >> that's correct. >> they interviewed over 600 people for this bo

, say something positive and nice about roger ailes that is in the book. >> well, fox news is aork for ailes love him. i mean he is a charismatic leader. when he went to work for nbc to fox news in 1996, more than 80 people followed him out the door. they were rushing to go work for the guy. ailes called an executive at nbc and said it a jailbreak. these guys couldn't leave fast enough to go work for him. so he is a charismatic leader. >> stephen: all right, thank you for coming by. thank you so much. and that's all we hav have-- evidently we have more time, evidently we have more time. okay. charismatic leader. but you also say he's a bully. that he's vindictive. if he ask a bully and vindictive why do people love him? because they love him. >> they love and they fear him. you know, one executive told me in a meeting-- . >> stephen: what is the difference. >> well, love, hate. >> stephen: okay. >> one executive told me in a meeting that the top guys hope that the t-rex won't see them. they hope he doesn't call on them in a meeting because he is so volatile that they don't want

sherman says he made a dozen requests to check with roger ailes. back now with our panel.e you -- what do you make of this book? i have not read this book. i don't know the details of it. >> because i'm a reporter, i have been waiting three years to read this book. people like me have wondered, what has he learned? and "the new york times" leaks last night gave us the first answer, that lead quote saying i want to elect the next president seems to speak about what roger ailes is in a nutshell, that he's always been a republican operative. yet he's the creative of -- >> he's really good at what he's been able to create. >> what the book presents is these two sides. yes, he's created this cable news channel and turned it into a billion dollar success story. but he's running this political machine, running as the de facto head of the republican party. this book puts so much more evidence out there. >> one of the great questions of american politics is why is the republican party more conservative than they used to be? there used to be a moderate core in this party. how much d

what makes roger ailes roger ailes? >> charlie he is an american icon.. he is the most unexplored subject and the most powerful man in america that most americans don't know but they should. he controls the american news agenda and he's an unexplored subject and he's citizen cain meets p.t. barnum. he controls the most powerful cable news network whose rating surpass rivals combined and it drives the agenda. >> he is a brilliant television executive, whether you're whatever your political affiliation. >> of course. >> you write about his desire to influence national politics and you quote him telling fox executives in 2010 i want to elect the next president. what did he do to try to make that happen? >> roger ailes has been influencing politics through three decades whether as a political consultant or tv news executive and he knows how to program television to drive a message. in the 2012 cycle with mitt romney, his strategy was rather than trying to build romney up it was an attack strategy over barack obama because he knew romney had lukewarm support

news that's a matter of record and roger ailes was and for all of the things he's accomplished roger ailes was an operative for richard nixon's or an expected to say something like this and frankly i don't take it personally don't take it seriously do you agree with the think that the thought that fox news channel is a actual part of the republican party. you know what i'm pausing only because i want to give a thoughtful answer that i understand that argument i think it goes too far which is to say i think ailes is considers himself still a part of the republican party i think in too far as he's able to that he wants his channel to be that way but i don't want to indict everybody at fox news channel because i know some of the pros there who are pretty good i don't want to dance around your question but i do do think that roger ailes would say this about him he is a very good businessman he's very smart about television and he built a network when i for one wasn't at all sure he could do so and has he used to do benefit the republican party yes the record is very clear on that but is i

i don't know if roger ailes started that or not but i think it's a good way to do journalism and i thinks has carried that out. >> and it would be interesting if he quit and went over to msnbc, they would be clobbering fox because of the resilience of ailes. >> i wonder what the odds of that are? >> i don't think it's going to happen. >> you don't? really? >> no. but he's a genius. there will never be another guy like him. >> i think you're right about that. mark simone, thanks. that's it for our show. watch tomorrow, wisconsin governor scott walker is going to be our guest. he just slashed taxes in wisconsin. he's on larry kudlow tomorrow night. want it ... until boom, it's bedtime! d your mattress a battleground of thwarted desire. enter the sleep number bed. designed to let couples sleep together in individualized comfort. he's a softy. his sleep number setting is 35. you're the rock, at 60. and as your needs change over time you can adjust your bed to sleep better together. 48-month financing available through february 2 only at your local sleep number store. find your sleep number s

of the numerous author programs including gabriel sherman for his recent biography on fox news, roger ailes and cia lawyer john rizzo's account of his 34 year tenure at the agency. check our web site booktv.org for the complete schedule. on march 15th-sixteenth look for booktv's coverage of tucson festival of books from the university of arizona. let us know about book fairs and festivals in your area and we will add them to our list. e-mail us at booktv@c-span.org. >> begins with a question of the relationship of nature to politics. both claim that their political views are based in an idea that politics has to answer to human nature, a very different idea of what that was and different ideas what nature means in political debate has a lot to do with what follows. so an idea of nature that is an enlightened science idea, understands nature as a source of rules, rules that govern the behavior of individual particles, if you will, and turn society itself, basically a function of particles a little like newtonian physics applied to politics, not in a simple-minded way. he understood politics

the book presents roger ailes tsunami lie one who can defeat barack obama.news. kou s you could see in 2009 how it became more conservative and more polarizing. >> one other thing i want to talk to you about, brian, the supreme court taking up this case of areo, a tiny antenna that streams the broadcast networks, cbs, abc, the broadcasters say we should get some money from this. they are doing something wrong here. what do you think? do you think this is going to change the way that people view television and if they are going be paid? >> this is a fascinating case because right now a broadcast network like abc and cbs and nbc they make money from every person who is watching cnn. every person who pays for cable and satellite pays for those broadcast networks. as areo recognizes you can get those networks for free over the public air waves. it's a start up that has a bunch of antennas. pulls the signals down for free and sends it over networks to paying customers. the networks are up in arms because they don't get a fee. the supreme court decided on friday t

ou: fox news chairman and ceo roger ailes interviewed by hollywood reporter.e who target may again kelly over her remarks about santa claus being whites are bathetic for try as he claims victory in the cable news wars now that cnn is out of the news business and he says msnbc dodged a bullet by canceling alec baldwin's new show because there would have to fire him eventually because he would not be able to achieve ratings. he likes rachel matt on a personal level and sarah palin? he says he hired her as a fox news contributor because he wanted to give courteous to pass off the people that wanted her dead. hands starting a brand new history channel with bill o'reilly. joining us now the "a team." we talked on your broadcast this afternoon if it is great. john gibson, we are delighted to see you in that you have joined us. let's start with the unemployment insurance and the odd mix of emotions with the republican party about extendi unemployment benefits to people who have been long-term unemployed because of disastrous economic policy implemented by this admini

. >> so i called roger ailes and i said this is what kim said to me. and he said -- he paused and said she's right. start it tonight. and of course i fell off the floor. >> welcome to washington. i'm brit hume and i'll be here each night. >> roger ailes told me that it was a big deal to get you. >> it was a big deal for me to get here. i was excited about it. >> nemtin the meantime, no more on the way. >> he led special report for ten years and continues as a fox news contributocontributor. >> what advice did he give you? >> he said two things. one, be yourself. two, let the news drive the show. >> and the news has taken bret out of the studio and on the road and even on a 100 mile bike ride with wounded veterans and president bush. >> i must confess, you beat expectations. >> must have been pretty low. >> yes, they were. >> why do you think people watch at 6:00? >> i think it's a formula that works. it works when brit created the whole structure, it is news-driven. the correspondents drive it. and then to have analysis at the end of the show with the

talk to him about that in part because he didn't want to talk to me at all but you know, i think roger ailes would hear what you're saying and say yes and? certainly television is a visual medium and roger takes advantage of that. he likes his and confident in his women attractive. there is something, there's a show called the five at 85 now that replace glenn beck and it's usually about 4-1 or 3-2 conservative to liberal and usually the mainstay liberal is the skype log akel who ran walter mondale's campaign which is by concession one of the least fruitful presidential campaigns of all time. this person was caught up in a personal scandal. a person on the left had been in trouble so there for we owe him for the wrecks or action. he is not the most forceful advocate for representative of the democrats. one of the things that i learned about didn't happen to make the cut, there's a camera that they have and what they do is basically, i'm told this is absolutely true, they a sort the women who are going to be on because there's a rotating cast of characters although there are some pictures app

york times,"ere is what the paper said about the latest biography of fox news ceo and president roger ails, sing tucked away at end of -- there is a note that should have openedhe book, mr. sherman has done a lot of interviews but so many citations of author interview with a person familiar with the matter that the loudest voice in the room may set a record for blind items and the untrustworiness they en gender gender. it would have helped to know right from the get go why mr. sherman found this kind of jourjournal implement i am imp impressed. if you are looking for a book well sourced and insightful, and with juan william's remmendati, look at this one, "upheaval," on-line, bookstores, walmart, barnes & noble, you can go to lou dobbs.com for the link. john and virginia wrote us to say, i can't help but wonder, if somewhere in 1.1 trillion spending bill that president obama signed to fund theederal government includes money to have windows cleaned at the white house, wasn't the obama administrati supposed to be about transparency, i love the title of your new book, "upheaval," can't wait

hear what roger ails said about bill o'reilly and the presidential election. we have been showing you, live pictures out of new jersey. this will get under way on the traffic scandal involving governor chris christie's inner circle. stay tuned. weeknights are for favorites. olive garden's signature favorites now just $10. including everyone's favorite fettuccine alfredo and our classic lasagna. plus unlimited soup or salad, and warm breadsticks. signature favorites now just ten dollars, monday through thursday, at olive garden. is your tv powered by coal? natural gas? nuclear? or renewables like solar... and wind? let's find out. this is where america's electricity comes from. a diversity of energy sources helps ensure the electricity we need is reliable. take the energy quiz. energy lives here. . >> you will be hearing from the speaker to open this up by saying this is a sad day for new jersey. he is talking about this scandal, traffic scandal that is directly affecting chris christie's inner circle. take a listen. >> thank you for coming down on such short n

murdock put his faith in fox news chairman and ceo roger ailes.e beginning, ailes clearly stated the mission of fox news. to report all sides of the story unbiased and unfiltered. >> the american people have very smart. they know the difference between news, facts, analysis, commentary,ana opinion, spin, and b.s. the other news organizations won't tell you the difference. we will. >> you you ares about to are enter the no spin zone. ♪ ♪ >> is it better for our country to know the details of what their electedtail officials are doing? i would argue yes, it is. >> there are are people who don't live in los angeles, w york, san francisco, boston, and those big citiesose maybe weren't served all theciti time. >> it was a market sitting there waiting to be served. we served it. >> powerful, insightful, fair and balanced, megyn kelly taking prime time to the next degree. deg >> i think i am fair and balanced and fiery. i ask the questions here.y. not answer them. >> what does fair and balanced mean to you? >> i think fair and balanced means you bring th

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>> look, leadership comes from the top down, and most news organizations, roger ailes sets the tone forink we all try to live up to that, and i think at msnbc, you have phil griffin. i worked with phil at msnbc, he's always nice to me. i think it was in the early days from '96 to 2000 when i was there, and it was a different sensibility. it was kind of more edgy than lefty, right? you had a lot of conservative voices at msnbc at the time and it was a little bit more interesting back then, and now it seems as they've become more desperate, bill, in the quest to make some dent in these ratings, it's almost like people have to almost one-up each other. either that or they are just incredibly stupid, which could be a possibility. >> they are not incredibly stupid, i mean, they are not doing well. if cnn is -- cnn, by the way, doesn't do this stuff very much. >> no. >> but they are in big trouble ratingswise and msnbc beats them by a little, and i guess they feel that this far left approach they take is the reason why, but i couldn't to be amazed by comcast, the parent company of nbc, owns i

pew pert murdock and roger ailes in creating fox news is to have discovered a niche audience in americanst news, namely half the country. everybody knows that the network news all give it from the same perspective and what fox news has offered is a new way to look he a thus and that's why it has been so unbelievably successful. mainstream media. they no longer control the agenda. >> but it's more than that. it's a power thing. when brokaw, jennings and rather were in the chair, okay? when they were the anchormen, they had all the power. no one had any power but them. and then once in a while there would be a commentator put on there, some place. a little time not much. now there is no power at the network really. the anchormen are good and professional and all of that. they don't drive the national debate. they don't change things like jessica's law. they don't do anything like that. correct? >> they know a there has been frag then station, people go to other sources of news far more than they did, which is why the ratings of the evening news on 00 net is so disastrously lower than it wa

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. >>> roger ailes has been called many things, a genius, political hack, paranoid. fox news nervous. nervous thanks to the brand new book "the loudests voice in the room" how roger built fox news and divided a country. author gabriel sherman is here today for his first in-depth interview. time to look at this week's chris christie's media circus in new jersey and an update on the case of three reporters from al jazeera being imprisoned in egypt. i'm bri

and the very very ugly maybe roger ailes the fox so-called new c.e.o. doesn't exactly have the most savory of reputations allegations in reporter gabriel sherman the new book the loudest voice in the room suggest that reputation may be. close to the truth according to the new york times which just published a preview of the book a television producer randy harrison told mr sherman the wall negotiate your salary with mr ailes at n.b.c. in the one nine hundred eighty s. he offered her an additional hundred dollars each week if you agree to have sex with me whatever i want. if those allegations are true that's amazing. in fact you see representative leslie combs had an embarrassing moment tuesday during a meeting with fellow state representative jeff greer shacks adeptly fired her ruger semiautomatic handgun no one was hurt but a bullet flat fragments flew all over the room damaging the carpet in a nearby bookshelf as combs told a local news station she was trying to load the gun went off. the sucker away an idea and i simply i was going through the proces