roger ailes and donald trump are pretty savvy as far as ratings. i'm not minimizing roger ailes. when he says you should apologize. donald trump being somewhat sincere when saying you are unfair to me. the political class complaints about the voters being silly and distracted @the political classs about the voters being silly and distracted but all these shiny object. who is covering this accidentally? is a political class, reporters obsessed with what, what trump set about megyn kelly. trump understands that. he sort of picks fight with him and makes up and explained he didn't really need of a fight with within. always been good. he likes this person giving images 24/7. the poor guy doesn't like to me he spent a lot of time with them. he's clever in the way he handles that. i sort of thing the media comes out, i do -- one of the scholars, the political class, the media elites really need to look in the mirror more. two of me, too. blaming the voters. spinning what is a thing of time reports about donald trump's campaign in iowa. he is put in place a robust operation in our credi

he said roger ailes should fire frank luntz and ailes doesn't like that stuff. the second is you mentioned wwf, it's a little like a wrestling match where ratings at fox go up when they have trump on. sean hannity has enjoyed his best ratings. on the weekends they've enjoyed it. >> and this is all ratings. this is all ratings. >> so he talks about his poll numbers going up. roger ailes can look at his numbers and they've been higher than normal. >> here's the most precious commodity, attention. attention is the most fought over commodity, it's more valuable than real estate, more valuable than money, the most valuable thing, it is a thing people are competing for right now at every moment for your eyeballs and that's true in politics and it's flew the market and we're seeing them intersect in this crazy summer of trump and here's the thing that i love. for years if you criticized fox and say you guys got that wrong or that was a racist thing you said they say, "hey, forget about it, look at our ratings." and now trump is saying to fox "i don't care, look at my r

he put out his own statement in response to roger ailes saying how wrong fox news and roger ailes are to defend this most megyn kelly and he reiterates how much he doesn't like her then he finishes up his statement with this. look. "more importantly" [ laughter ] "more importantly, i'm very pleased to see the latest polls from public policy polling showing me at a strong number one with 35% in new hampshire and the monmouth university poll showing me at number one with 30% in south carolina. it feels also just announced that i won the prestigious corn kernel poll at the iowa state fair by a landslide." look at my landslide in the corn kernel poll. sometimes the universe delivers poetic justice. on the one hand this feels like godzilla versus mothra. republican news network versus front-runner republican presidential candidate. two monsters of roughly the same size. how can i fight between them end? on the other hand, if you want a more specific monster metaphor that may be more accurate, it may be less godzilla and mothra and more like frankenstein and his own monster because when don

roger ailes who won. i don't think i've made any mistakes. i'm sure i will at some point, but so far you would have to say it hasn't worked out badly, right? >> i wonder how roger ailes will react to that. i wonder what bill o'reilly will say tomorrow. >> a man who has known trump for decades is here to answer questions. the big question in the media industry is who needs trump more? >> roger, thanks for being here. >> thank you very much for inviting me. >> i am interested in hearing your assessment of this so-called truce between fox and trump. let me start at the beginning, which is the debate. ten days ago. was it smart political strategy for trump to go after the moderators like megyn kelly? >> the voters are fed up with clear politicians in the political system and fed up with the elite media. they're tired of the media taking one part of what you say and not all of what you say. i frankly think there was no downside. as far as the debate itself, i frankly think trump won that exchange by first conv

essentially taken over the republican party and damaged the party's ability to win national elections, roger ailes needs to appeal to these people. if the party becomes the face of donald trump that,ry at a loss. the is the issue. >> so ailes, roger ailes comes across in your biography. he is a genius, a savant at understanding the kind of emotional level at which politics functions. >> yes. >> he's a jen just showman. >> the american eing will tore rat is his canvass. if you see the numbers, 24 million people. he was able to engineer this entire show and the belief is once trump served his usefulness, they decided to kill him off. they have to transition to the serious season. >> mckay, i am of the pin there are 20-25% that will stick with this guy are kind of there for donald trump and that is not enough to win all tow, pretty soon we get into the spitting distance of iowa. and he's got a real problem t. guy could carry iowa. >> he could wear more than iowa. he could carry several states. i think as long as the field is as big as it is, there are 17 candidates, right. 25% actually would be enoug

. >> yeah, this came out a few minutes ago, wolf, from the chairman of fox news, roger ailes. he is a republican party king maker. before he created fox news, he advised presidential candidates on the right like ronald reagan. so to see him slamming donald trump, well, i've never seen a statement like this from roger ailes. let's put part of it on the screen. it says megyn kelly has his full support. it starts by saying "donald trump's surprise and unprovoked attack on megyn kelly during her show last night is as unacceptable as it is disturbing. megyn kelly represents the best of journalism and all of us at fox news reject the crude and irresponsible attempts to suggest otherwise." he went on to say that donald trump rarely apologizes, we all know that. he says "donald trump rarely apologizes but in this case he should." the statement went on to say "we have never been deterred by politicians or anyone else attacking us for doing our job, much less allowed ourselves to be bullied by anyone and we're certainly not going to start now." this is all the more notable, wolf, becaus

roger ailes called on trump to apologize to his star anchor. donald trump's surprise and unprovoked attack on megyn kelly during her show last night is as unacceptable as it is disturbing. megyn kelly represents the very best of american journalism. trump responded to that, quote, i totally disagree with the fox statement. i do not think megyn kelly is a quality journalist. i think her questioning of me was very unfair. at a press conference he said he would not apologize to kelly. here he goes again. >> no, she should be apologizing to me. but i would not do that. >> why should she apologize to you? >> because i thought her questioning and attitude was totally inappropriate. all you have to do is look at the internet today and you see who people favor in that one.

was eight bibit of a role reversal today for roger ailes to make that personal phone call to mr. trump? does donald trump hold more power than anyone gives him credit for? what does this mean for his campaign, if it is a real campaign? sands when the front runner for the republican nom snakes getting personal phone calls from roger ailes promising reportedly nicer coverage. what's everyone else in the world supposed to do? joinb us now on a big day if politics, political reporter from the washington post, thanks for joining us. >> it's great to be here. >> let's start with those questions. where is donald trump now in a standoff that at least according to donald trump resulted in roger ailes reaching out and playing nice? >> you know i think he is exactly where he wants to be. none of this was new information to people who are supporting donald trump. i think a lot of them decided it was pretty irrelevant and fox news understands that donald trump is good for the numbers. i mean, look at the ratings for that debate. so again, i mean, he has proven that he is, you know, invulnerab

and roger ailes, another smart guy. whether they've gotten together and planned this out or not, it works to their mutual been if it. fox can argue, listen, we don't give sweetheart deals over the republican candidate and trump can say i tell you i'm independent. and i'm really independent. look at even fox. in answer to your question, i think that someone could get nominated without fox's support. but i don't think they'll have to. i think as the race narrows down, it will come clear what fox wants. basically, and i don't think roger ailes ois any apology, he wants a republican president. but trump has changed the dimension. he's running an historical line with huey long if louisiana during the 1930s, who in fiction was immortalized by the great robert penn warren -- >> my favorite book of all time. >> huey long runs through,strom thurmond, barry goldwater, he was a different personality than trump. but people tend to forget that the 1960 republican convention, goldwater was considered an outlier. a pre trump trump. he

i do not believe roger ailes was panicked. i do not believe roger ailes gets panicked and i don't think donald trump will ever apologize. >> do we all agree she was called bad names and i would defend her if i were running a network. i'm not sure what's happening here. >> we're talking about trump. that's what's happening. >> she is being called slanderous names and her network is -- what's going on? >> roger ailes characterization is it was contentious, he was sticking up for megyn kelly, said he thought she did a great job. >> he said that on the network? >> yes. >> great. >> to be clear the sherman piece does not say roger ailes apologized to trump. he felt to reach out to trump to reach and get this thing calmed down and the conversation was designed to get back to status quo. >> wow. i'm just going to leave it there. as for his presidential campaign, donald trump is building up the infrastructure and new reports says he will begin increasing staff in michigan nevada, new hampshire and iowa. two new national tracking polls

he has a very high regard for roger ailes. the two men made peace and now this.ee him get back to issues and talk about the big issue items that had driven him to first place in the polls. >> you see something like this. when it first happened, well, this is going on hurt. we want to see the numbers. let's see the number after this debate. the implication being they would suffer. but they haven't suffered. he is winning by more in most polls, despite all this stuff. so do you think it will hurt him? he is leading among women in most polls. >> i think this needs to stop being about when is this going to hurt or help donald trump. i am delighted to see a principled response from fox. i am delighted that roger has seemingly given permission to the entire cast of fox journalists and personalities to defend megyn kelly. this is what i hope will ultimately be, what i have looked for for a long time on the right. a sista soldier moment. whenter 800 pound gorilla in the room, the real people say no. stop. this is enough. this is where donald trump needs to stop being a b

now we've seen a lot of fox news stars coming out in her support and, most importantly, roger ailes coming to her defense as well. >> we did a whole segment on the truce. >> everyone would have thought. well, the truce is over. ailes feels that trump is being disgraceful. big question if he'll be back on fox any time soon. >> what is in it for trump? >> i'm just guessing here. i wish i could get into his brain. but i think he has a lot of fans that think he's right and in the clear. maybe he's only hearing from his supporters and not hearing from his detractors. that's just my guess but i'm not sure he's hearing from all of the people who think his attacks on megyn kelly is going to hurt him. >> after the debate in cleveland we all thought, is this going to be the moment that brings down donald trump when he talked about the blood comments. >> remember the week before it was the breastfeeding bit and then this. >> and then the polls came out and it did affect his standing in the polls. for him, what does he have to lose? if he feels like i have the supporters on my side, particularly withi

you talked to roger ails. he says he cleared the air. and megyn kelly goes on her show, doesn't come at you, says that you're successful. did you make a deal with fox? >> roger ails has been a friend of mine for a long time. >> he's a good man. >> he's a friend of mine. he's somebody i have great respect for. i was angry with the way i was treated, perhaps justifiably. roger ails, who's an amazing guy and an amazing executive, he called me yesterday and i'm fine with it. >> was part of the deal that megyn kelly wouldn't go on her show and attack you and keep it going? >> we didn't discuss that. it's not about megyn kelly. >> she didn't come up at all? >> it's not about that. there was a misinterpretation of what i said. unless you're a deviant you don't put words in. a couple of people tried to make a big issue out of it. that's not it. roger has done an amazing job at fox. he called me and i have no problem. >> roger ails himself released a statement, quote, i assured him that we will continue to cover this campaign with fairness and ba

. >> this last thing with fox, i mean, i love roger ailes but all you have to do is ask roger ailes who won. >> there's been a lot of rumor stories taking around taking that trump line that fox news somehow gave in to donald trump. what identify been able to piece together is it was a classic truce. neither side apologized. nobody won. nobody lost. people say he got an hour on hannity show. 11 other republican presidential candidates have gotten a full hour show on hannity this year. there was a difficult conversation my sources say when roger ailes told trump in a phone conversation ailes was not happy about the fact that trump had gone on msnbc and said that megyn kelly should apologize for him for asking tough questions at that debate and ailes said if you want to go to war, we can go to war. neither side wanted that war. it seemed like everyone was moving on until friday. it was on friday a couple days after megyn kelly left on a preplanned family vacation that trump said in an interview that he possibly caused that vacation. that prompted a tough statement from fox news defending m

roger ailes has called him. all the polls say donald trump didn't take a hit, maybe he even got stronger. i imagine that will show in his mood here. >> this is confrontational politics. this is combative donald trump. i've been on the phone with his associates all day. they truly believe that they can turn a corner at this moment and start to become a more organized campaign, more serious campaign when it comes to policy. it will be difficult for him. he's starting to make hires in michigan, nevada, different key primary states. he knows he needs to get beyond the gaffe, beyond the controversy and embracing his front-runner status. >> michael steele, can he do that? we saw a longtime trump adviser roger stone leaving the campaign under disputed circumstances this weekend. this is a candidate obviously, as katy says, you never know what he's going to say until he opens his mouth. maybe he doesn't know. can a candidate with a personality like this put together the disciplined operation that robert costa is talking

roger ailes coming out with a big statement defending megyn kelly, attacking trump.aying this whole thing is as unacceptable as -- what's going on here. >> these two men came to a private deal two weeks ago where ailes according to my sources believed he had gotten trump on board with stopping these attacks. because this is the problem for fox news. donald trump supporters are the loyal fox news audience. and donald trump has rallied his base of supporters essentially against fox news and kelly. and ailes can't have the daylight between the two of them. he worked out what he believed to be a truce. and today donald trump threw out the truce and has gone on the offensive. and that's caught fox news by surprise. >> you covered this stuff pretty closely. you have written a book on it. have you ever seen a republican government official or candidate take on fox news like this? >> never. in the 19 years fox news has been around, i have never seen this kind of open warfare. to me it represents a new chapter in the history of conservative media and a new chapter in rogers a

roger ailes has a big problem. how do you keep your own rubes in the paddock?e actual network that it's on. one america news was actually founded two years ago and the founder of that company basically founded on the principle that fox news is too liberal and it needs to cater to a much more conservative far right extreme audience that can't get a satisfaction from watching fox news any longer. it has been expanding very slowly. i think given the past weeks and the recent back and forth between donald trump and roger ailes, the fact that he's going on this channel, which he's never done before, which no major person has ever done before is a very revealing sign and should be more of an immediate alarm and shot across the bow for roger ailes because it says that donald trump might be willing to play more hardball than he already has been. >> john, let me let you listen to this. jeb bush gets guff for being politically tone deaf. here was his response to the two journalists killed in virginia this week. >> it's a tragedy. i don't have enough details to determine

roger ailes calling trump's surprise an unprovoked attack as unacceptable as it is disturbing. some republican leads are still fear trump may launch an independent bid to become president. south carolina republicans are saying that anyone that wants to be on the primary ballot has to promise to support the republican nominee at the end of the race. we'll see if donald trump will the sign that pledge. tom llamas, abc news, due buick iowa. >> lots of republicans want to know. on the democratic side, hillary clinton picks up her first endorsement from a member of the obama cabinet. agriculture secretary tom vilsack is backing clinton. vilsack says he supports clinton's efforts to expand and strengthen the middle class. vilsack also a former governor of iowa a key early voting state where clinton will be campaigning today. >>> the u.s. ambassador to japan caroline kennedy and some of her senior staff find themselves targets of criticism about their use of e-mail. a new report says they use personal accounts for official government business. details from abc's jonathan carl. >> repo

. >> roger ailes says you should apologize to megyn kelly. >> no, i would not apologize. she should proibably apologize o me, but i just don't care. >> reporter: her questions at the debate, he said were, quote, very unfair. some critics wonder if this fused between fox and trump is manufactured. a few weeks ago after the first stage of the fight, trump went on fox and the ratings witness through the roof. some wonder if that just might happen again. jorge ramos made "time" magazine's cover as one of the most 100 influential people. he's on the phone from dubuque, iowa. were you there to pick a fight? >> no, i was there to ask questions. that's our job as journalists. and the fact is that i have tried to get an interview with mr. trump. i sent him a note. instead of giving me the interview, he published my cell phone on the internet. i came to iowa to ask questions. >> there are some questions, or some are raising questions about how you attempted to speak with mr. trump, that you stood up. you weren't called on. you interrupted other journalists. explain what happened. >

the republican front-runner fired back at luntz telling political "if i was roger ailes i would fire guy so fast his head would spin." roger stone entered the fray tweeting "pathetic toured frank luntz begged donald trump for polling work." up next, the author from "new york" magazine, gabriel sherman. you have two beam on either side of it whose people's entire lives, careers and reputations are staked on never being the chump, never losing, never backed down, roger ailes, donald trump, something happened between them. there's different reporting, your reporting, brian stelter is reporting. what's happening snowed. >> -- today? >> it was politico. they called trump up and he unloaded on luntz. but fox can't afford to go to war with trump because his base, his supporters is their audience and so you have the sort of detente last week and now they've settled into what they hope will be this truce will that will last because neither side -- i would argue fox can't afford an open hot war. >> but the calculation early on as they went into this is that trump can't afford it, right? but in

when trump revealed the president of fox called him, he tweeted roger ails just called me. and assures me that trump will be treated fairly on fox news. his word is always good. for the record, yes, he did put quotes around his own name but i degres. the tweet was after he was grilled about whether he talked to fox and trump played it coy. >> obviously, it's not in fox news' interest to be in a war with you and it's not with fox' best interest to be at war with you. have you talked to anybody about trying to find common ground with the network? >> well, i don't want to say that but i'll tell you -- >> well, hold on a second. you're a straight talker, baby. >> i don't want to say. why should i say. i'm not going to embarrass anybody. i lead my leap -- my whole life is led on the theory i do not want to embarrass people. >> he doesn't want to embarrass people? he gave out lindsey graham's phone number. but apparently, he's now making a amends with fox. he has a long history with the network. before running for president, he was a regular but once he stepped off that set and o

trump tweeting, roger ailes just called. his word is always good. hillary clinton tying trump to the republican field during a campaign swing in new hampshire. our jeff zeleny was there. >> reporter: the comments were offensive or outrageous, which adjective you would like to use. hillary clinton is closer to trump in this race. she received contributions interest him and attended his wedding. she said the reason she went to the wedding is she thought it would be entertaining. >> it's entertainment. it's all entertainment. i think he is having the time of his life. being up on that stage and saying what he wants to say. i didn't know him that well. i knew him. i happen to be planning to be in florida. i thought it would be fun to go to his wedding. now he's running for president, it's more troubling. >> reporter: christine, she took every opportunity to paint this republican field with a broad brush of donald trump. she singled out marco rubio. she said his abortion comments last week were out of touch and out of date. by singling out marco rubio, i

roger ailes needs donald trump. just look at the ratings. 24 million people. >> that's the hilarious thing. trump gets up there, mckay, and says, it would have been 2 million if not for me. i don't think it would have been 2 million, but trump owns a significant -- 24 million is just a bonkers number for something this early. >> yeah. i remember when i was flying into cleveland, i literally heard people on the plane saying, "i never watch political debates but i want to see what the donald's going to say." it's absolutely true that donald trump is, as he described himself over the weekend, a ratings machine. and as long as he's in these debates and as long as he's in the race and fox news and other outlets can continue to cover him as a leading candidate, it's great for ratings, great for traffic, it's great for all the outlets who are covering him. >> let me quote your piece. he's the fascinating frankenstein thing. this is from your "new york" magazine piece talking about the reaction to megyn kelly's question. in

matt: why would a call with roger ailes make things ok?uldn't he call her and should call him and apologize, depending on who was wrong? betty: moving on, president obama was seen golfing in martha's vineyard this weekend, kicking off a two-week vacation. he credited alongside robert wolf, the former ubs chairman. and larry david, the creator and star of curb your enthusiasm was spotted crying out from the rest as he attempted to make his way out of the sand pit. that is a look at the top stories of this hour. maybe they just made them selves look bad so that obama could have that one. matt: we have a reality tv star running for president and them we have the president playing golf with basically a reality tv star. betty: good point. matt: coming up, hillary clinton's education pitch. her $350e outlined billion plan for college affordability. we are awaiting her to take the podium. ♪ matt: welcome back. i matt miller in for mark crumpton here with betty liu. few moments,t a and hillary clinton will be rolling out one of the biggest proposa

roger ails released a statement saying he and trump have cleared the air. roger ails also said he told trump that he supports anchor megan kelly 100%. donald trump complained that kelly treated him unfairly during the republican debate. last night megan kelly told her audience she would not apologize for doing good journalism. trump keeps rising in the republican presidential polls despite his many store remarks. >> i think i'm going to have to turn into my opponents license because someone will revoke it. >> there are new reports rick perry's campaign can't pay his campaign staffers because it's running out of money. the former texas governor has struggled in that crowded field of 17 gop candidates. >>> and former first lady nancy reagan is inviting 16 of the republican candidates. it will take place at the reagan library. it will be moderated by cnn. the cnn debate will be broken into two back to back debates. >>> ross mirkarimi license has been suspended but he didn't know. now under california law drivers have to file a report if someone is hurt or if t

fox ceo rogers ailes praised kelly's professionalism and class after facing trump's assaults. >> robert ales says you should apologize. >> it's a small part of my life, megyn kelly. no, i don't think so. she should probably apologize to me, but i just don't care. >> the reason trump says kelly should apologize to him is because he said her questions in the debate were very unfair. by the way, some critics are wondering if the debate between fox and trump is manufactured. he went on fox and ratings went through the roof and some wonder if that's going to happen again. norah? >> chip, thanks. jorge ramos made "time" magazine's cover this year as one of the 100 most influential people. he's on the phone from iowa. good morning, jorge. >> good morning. >> were you there to pick a fight? >> no. i was there to ask questions. that's my job as a journalist. i have tried to get an interview with mr. trump. i sent him a note a few weeks ago. instead of giving me an interview, he published my cell phone on the internet. >> there is no doubt there are many questions. they're raising questions how y

the fact that roger ailes came out.tement like this so forcefully in defense of a star like megyn kelly. >> i have to ask you. people get divorces all the time. you don't stay in love with the person you're in love with always. >> i'm not sure this is a divorce or a quibble. i don't know what they're doing. i don't know whether donald trump is in character or caricature. here's what he has done. it is quite remarkable. now we're talking about megyn kelly. now we're talking about jorge ramos. he's attack media. the public holds the media in some of the lowest regard it has ever they told media as with all the other institutions that donald trump is attack. he is a state of mind. and that's what i think we hear when he speaks like this. it is a state of mine. and it resonates with so many people. they hold so many institutions in frustratingly agonizingly low regard. >> is he the only -- i don't want to take fox news down. is he the only person who can criticize fox news in a way that makes them concerned that he actually

>> i think you are seeing the fact that roger ailes and host on fox news today condemned his remarks said they do not agree with him, i think you are seeing a sign. because fox news often says the rest of the world is being politically correct. we're here to be fair and balanced and what have you. i think the fact that people on fox and the head of fox felt the need to defend megyn kelly and suggest his remarks are inappropriate is a sign of something. remember donald trump four years ago was saying the president of the united states wasn't born here. we know he engages in what i would call direct falsehoods and seems to be able to recover from them. he endures in a way i don't totally understand because his remarks i think go beyond politically incorrect to be deplorable at times. >> the reason you don't understand is because most of america does not view his comments as being imaginistic or racist. misogynistic. or racist. >> it doesn't serve the purpose here. >> the majority of african american felt when he went after obama on the birther issue that it was directly related to the

this is what trump is doing. >> roger ails is a genius. r those who try to ascribe political motive, ails is about ratings, the success of his network. 24 million people tuned in. why? because donald trump is great television. he he's charismatic and interesting. now you contrast him with the 15 year politicians all of whom are trying to parse their words and be careful, trump is genuine, spontaneous and interesting. >> how long can he get away with this advice. you didn't get elected on details, you got elected on themes. sooner or late he's got to give the details. >> i would urnl people to read his book. trump has pig themes, big ideas for america. he's laid them out in writing. and i have no doubt he's going to lay them out as the campaign progress progresses. >> be prepared for that first question. it could very well go to you. this would be your opportunity to set the mood for the evening. he got the question and he did set the mood. >> yes, he did. i'm a little surprised that you have that memo. cnn and the "washington post" for the

today, roger ailes just called. he is a great guy and assures me that trump will be treated fairly on fox news. his word is always good. so that might be the closest thing that donald trump gets to an apology out of this that phone call from roger ailes. let's talk about the wild weekend from inside his campaign and key figure from donald trump that's going away. >> roger stone, up with of his top political adviser, either was fired or resigned. the campaign said he was fired because he was just trying to get publicity for himself and stone from our sources says that he actually resigned. he said he was just getting too distracting with all of the attacks and controversies in the media and it was distracting from trump's core message, that h we is an outsider, he's not beholden to anybody, and he can be a force for change in politics. what's interesting though, thomas, is that stone is a long-time political operative. this guy has a big long history. he has nixon tattooed on his back. and when he says that it's just

. >> roger ailes says you need to apologize to megyn kelly. will you do that?> no, i would not do that. she needs to apologize to me. >> why should she apologize to you? >> because i thought they are questioning and attitude was totally inappropriate. look at the internet today and see who people favor in that one. it's a very small element in my life, megyn kelly. i don't care about megyn kelly but, no, i would not apologize. she should probably apologize to me but i just don't care. look. i have a lot of respect for roger. i mean you know? maybe, maybe not. i really don't know. look. i think they cover me terribly. fox news, i think they cover me terribly and i'm winning by double digits on every poll, so i don't know. maybe it matters, maybe it doesn't. i don't think i get good treatment from fox. >> fox news anchors and chairman roger ailes standing firmly behind kelly in the battle with trump and several hosts tweeting their support and ailez releasing a statement saying the following. >>> onetime front-runner jeb bush will be campaigning in his home state

today trump said he is making up with fox news chairman roger ailes after attacking megyn kelly. he says roger ailes is a nice guy and he liked megyn's show last night. >> last night. >> you might miss something. >> i have a feeling we'll have this conversation again. >> maybe. >> all right. thank you. >>> up next here at 5:00, a local school district failing its students and cbs 2 investigates why. we uncover disturbing details. what workers say is really happening. >> and a cabbie gunned down on a quiet new jersey street. what police think the motive may have been. >> and flying high after getting trapped on a cliff. watch as rescuers save a woman and her dog. i have leave early go roam sleep in sleep out star gaze dream big wander more care less beat sunrise chase sunset do it all. on us. switch now, new york and get installed as early as today. mom switched. we switched. i switched to time warner cable and knew exactly when they were coming. thanks to their 1 hour appointment window. for $89.99 a month, you'll get 100 meg internet, hundreds of hd channels, and unlimited calli

i worked for roger ailes and fox for 16 years.fight, i can't help but read between the lines of what's going at fox. let me read to you what roger ailes put out as a statement about donald trump when he revised his feud with megyn kelly by sending out a series of nasty tweets. roger ailes said, donald trump's unprovoked attack on megyn kelly is as unacceptable as it is disturbing. donald trump rarely apologizes, though in this case he should. is it a winning strategy to go against roger ailes for donald trump? >> i don't know what he is like behind the scenes. but what we're hearing is we're not seeing his authentic self right now. he's coming off as unhinged. it is disturbing. when roger stone quits the trump campaign because he can't handle it, roger stone is known as somebody that can handle a lot of mud. and he quit a few weeks ago. this is disturbing. and the fact that the media is covering him and not really saying a word about it. this behavior by donald trump is unacceptable, it's crude, it's crass. the guy comes into the

i'd rather roger ailes bond the debate away from them. >> i wish roger ailes would buy cnn and merge eliminate it. lou: i think we both better stay out of consulting business. ed rollins, thank you so much. vote in tonight's poll -- not whether you like him better or don't like him, whether or not you feel like you understand him better. >>> breaking news, two massive explosions rocking tianjin, a chinese city south of beijing near the nation's capital. chinese state media reporting these explosions before midnight at a warehouse used to store what chinese media would only call dangerous goods. that's the [ laughter ] >> how do you say very dangerous goods in chinese? the explosions felt six miles away, at least 13 people were killed in the explosions. dozens are missing at this hour. we're told hundreds of people have been taken to nearby hospitals. tianjin is a major port and industrial area just southeast of beijing, home to 7.5 million people. >>> we're coming right back. stay with us, much more straight ahead. >>> president obama fighting a regime in syria supported by iran, and

fox news chairman roger ailes is a gop king-maker. how can this be a winning strategy for trump? let me take you into the mind of ailes for a moment. fox hasn't covered this blood comment once in the 36 hours. fox is not commenting and megyn kelly personally is not commenting on what trump said. there has been so much viciousness directed towards kelly online it's created security concerns for fox. she'll be back on the air tomorrow night. maybe trump will come on her show at some point. for the time being she doesn't want to be seen as a victim. she wants to be seen, rightly, as a tough journalist. she is taking the high road. ailes' strategy is to let trump's campaign implode on its own. it's notable that fox has not covered this controversy at all in the last day and a half. joining me nowi joining me is george pataki. thanks for being here. i have to ask you at this point should trump drop out of the race? >> his candidacy is an there ab travesty. he started out by sunlandering a group of people. he slandered our p.o.w.s. this is not being politically correct to not speak lik

roger ailes calling it disturbing. stay tuned as the trump campaign rolls on, so

roger ailes is an amazing guy. they have been very fair. >> so he's characterizing the network as fair. although he did take the shot at megyn kelly in particular. you are out there in debuke. how do you think iowa republicans are going to react to this? who's side are they more likely to take? >> well that remains to be seen. think there are a lot of people out there who will take his side no matter what. they see him as antiestablishment. they willtake just another example of him being antiestablishment because fox in some ways is the establishment for the republican party. and there are those who side with fox and side with what they believe and will look don down on trump. and i think there will be quite a turn out. and i think when you talk to people, they like when he says what he thinks. and the megan kelly stuff didn't hurt him. people might be bored of it at this point but being bored is more of a threat than people being oochbded by it in terms of his supporters. >>> coming up, trump's also starting the p