if you don't, she was the woman at fox who roger ailes sexually harassed -- well, one of them -- and of her new show on nbc and she landed a blockbuster interview with russian president and vladimir putin. ( laughter ) kudos to meg b, because she did not hold back. >> you have repeatedly and passionately denied that russia was behind the interference with our american presidential election, but, as you know, the consensus view in the united states is that you did. many americans hear the name vladimir putin and they think, he runs a country full of corruption, a country in which journalists who are too critical could wind up murdered, a country in which dissidents could wind up in jail or worse. to people who believe that, what is your message? ( laughter ) >> trevor: did you hear that throat clear? ( clearing throat ) i was waiting for him to be, my message, is would you like to have a drink of water? but it's not water... ( laughter ) you can tell that megyn kelly was getting under putin's skin. you could tell because he quickly went from friendly to frenemy. >> there were no meeti

i was trying to do something similar for roger ailes but roger ailes to me was the main driver of this phenomenon of let's target a demographic, give them news that they like and forget about these other people over here. he talked about it, my audience is age 55 to dead. they don't want to hear about working women or liberals, they don't want them to exist. they crafted a news program for that audience and that started us down the road of this divided media landscape where we are basically -- a population split into camps and we have our own news sources and don't agree on anything and he was a pioneer of that. >> host: to go back to the 70s when we all listened to the same news, was it good at nbc, abc and cbs essentially in many ways controlled what we heard, what we thought? >> guest: look, it was an information monopoly, i read manufacturing consent, i agree with the premise of the book that it is very easy to control the opinions of population if you only have a few media sources and they were always some pad ago, in line with policy objectives, permanent government of the united

but i was trying to do something similar for roger ailes, but roger ailes to me was a main driver of this phenomenon of, let's target a demographic, give them news they like and forget about the other people over there. and the talked about it. he said my audience is age 55 to dead. they don't even want to hear about working women or liberals. they just don't want them to exist and they crafted a news program for that audience ask that started down the road of died divided media landscape, we are a population split into camps and we each have our own news sources and we don't agree on anything and i think the was a pioneer in that. >> host: going back to what you called the '70s when we all listened to the same news, was good that nbc, abc, and cbs, essentially in many ways controlled what we heard and thought? >> guest: no. look, it was an information monopoly. read manufacturing consent when i was a young person and i totally agree with the premise of the book, which is that it's very easy to control the opinions of the population if you only have a few media sources, and they were

but my argument against it is sometimes it's good when people die when they lose their job like roger ailes so there's always an exception is an example but i want to let's go to the next one access do we do we not have free access now i want a free country i love the freedom and democracy of it all right access is at the root of everything whether we know it or not property is really just access because you don't really own anything you don't take it with you it's the labor of the ideas what went into the construction of anything as a social phenomenon so the it's an illusion that's been propagated a very primitive view and born in the. mouth rusian period which you had to hoard and you had to be protective so property rights today dominate majority legislation out there if you look at almost all the crime legislation the books relates to property and most of the violence you see has comes down to a property relationship as well and the police are largely defending property and then it was a perfect analogy is a metaphor of standing rock where you have you have cops protecting a pipeline a

i want to say thank you for saying that about roger ailes. i have been watching this for years and always a level of viciousness and fear that came from fox. i watch it affect my friends. i am older and it was like they just became so locked in we can't talk about it. i am more of a liberal type gal. i just want to thank you for like helping me with my thinking that one person can affect a whole nation like that day after day, year after year, just spouting such mean stuff. most of the time inaccurate as well. anyways, the question i want to ask you is why do we need health insurance companies? i have had rounds of cancer. luckily i have had medicare and i lived because of that. but as a child, we just went to the doctor. there wasn't this issue about insurance. so, why do we need insurance companies that take trillions of dollars? any way, thank you. >> guest: thank you for that. yeah, it has been a while since i covered that subject but i mean i remember that looking at the comparison of the cost between because america's health coverage is

we're talking about this stunning news that we got today, that fox news chairman and former ceo roger ailes has died. of course, fox just across the street from here. 77 years old, and according to reports, there areep

roger ailes was involved in a similar thing.dy who works for you and say, "this sexual harassment stuff, and the money we're paying out, it's got to stop." when you are paying out money for sexual harassment. there was no accountability throughout the entire building. it was-- i'll tell you-- you've been over there. it felt like-- i remember i would go and i would tape bill o'reilly's show, and as you would leave, you would see little heads, like, pop out of doors in the hallways, almost like that scene in-- in "raiders of the lost ark" when he's in the mine and all the kids look out. it was that feeling of, "take us with you." like it was-- ( laughter ) >> stephen: it's "temple of doom" jon. >> was it "temple of doom?" >> stephen: it's "temple of doom." you've really lost a step. ( laughter ) >> you have no idea. i honestly, it is like, when you grow the beard, i now-- my children tell me my kisses feel like punishment. like, that's not, that's what my life is right now. ( laughter ) what do you think? smooth? ( applause ) smoo

we're talking about this stunning news that we got today, that fox news chairman and former ceo roger ailes has died. of course, fox just across the street from here. 77 years old, and according to reports, there

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