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. >> roger altman of evercorp. partners. and lee, chief investment officer.ly, it's going to be a great year for equities. i think you're right about that. but you're wondering how much i think the term used was juice left in the lemon? i don't know if he can assume that. that seems to be consensus. maybe we surprise everyone and do another 15. >> we may have seen the lion's share of the gains for 2013, but i don't think we have seen them over a three to five-year period. the macro factors are underlying the market remain positive. i think what you're basically seeing is the united states healing slower than anybody would like but healing. you see that in housing of course as becky was saying earlier. you see it in autos, energy, retail sales and lending. we're slowly building the foundation for a stronger 2014, 2015, and 2016, which really ought to be good years in the united states. 3% growth. yes, the international picture is mixed. europe is in for a long, slow painful slog and china is slowing a little. but medium term remains positive. >> i'll tell you