and then you have this noise of mnuchin, and i agree with roger atman th altman that it was poor messagingit was just poor messaging overall to a fragile market to begin with >> let's bring in some more voices let's bring in peter boockvar now on the phone this ugly close on christmas eve holiday shortened day, peter, what stood out to you amid the selling? >> putting aside the fundamental factors which we all know that is impacting markets, you have the technical factors. the first time in ten years you have taxes, people worrying about redemptions. there's a lot of people raising cash to meet redemptions this time of year every human emotion gets exacerbated no one wants to miss around on the upside, everyone wants to run out the door for the down side december dollars are precious when a money manager is managed. what you have been addressing for the fundamental reasons, certainly a lot of legitimate reasons for the selling. >> peter, talk to us about the u.s. economy itself. we were discussing that with roger. in the last three months, we've seen this u.s. equity market selloff pick up