here to discuss is evercorp, roger altman.ope you had a nice thanksgiving. >> i hope you did, too. >> thank you. what's powell's next move, do you think? is there a cut? are they done hiking? >> i think the answer to that is most likely yes, they are done hiking. i don't think that, however, there rr going to be cuts until well into 2024, if i had to guess it would be mid-2024, and it depends on the flow of data between now and then and between how much progress and lack of it we see on inflation, but i don't think anybody expects that in this upcoming december meeting that the fed will move. it will be steady as she goes unless there's some shock in the interim which no one expects. >> so if you say cuts maybe mid-'24. you know how the markets work and they try to get ahead of that by a significant amount of time whether it is six to nine months. should i buy stocks now? does this -- does this momentum have legs beyond the end of the year because of that? >> i think the giant question over the market, scott, is not the fed be