let's move quickly to this roger ayles furor that's brogue up today. books pouring out of every possible sphere. authorized, unauthorized, you name it. very controversial stuff in the authorized one, which is writ n written, an official biography. he's the head honcho at fox news, and he seems to be letting everybody have it. he calls joe biden, he says i have a soft spot for him. i like him, but he's as dumb as an ashtray. he calls the president, barack obama, lazy. he calls newt gingrich a prick. this is the stuff of tabloid lurid headlines for about a week, which i'm sure you won't care about, but let's discuss roger ailes. a, is he worth all these biographies? b, what do you think his lasting legacy will be? >> on the first question, he's definitely worth a biography or two. he's had incredible influence on the news media. he's a worthy subject and has had impact. the second, i said i wasn't cynical about what rand paul was doing. i'm a little more cynical about what roger ailes is doing. he has every right to do it, this legacy burnishing part of