the reason i don't think it plays so well is that unlike 2010 where they had roger ayles basically giving over the conservative media platform to really make sure that the republican party and the tea party had a platform to unite everybody around health care reform and basically going against it, roger ayles has said he's for immigration reform and path to citizenship and has had the network back off from this. i think it will be did i feel for cruz and the rest of the party to get that grassroots mobilization that's needed. i also think the republican party because of nor kwi, because of the cato institute, went out so fiercely against what the heritage foundation -- the fact it was going to have such a high price tag for immigration reform, i think you have those allies within the republican party saying, you know what, absent a comprehensive immigration reform we're basically going to have a la tino vote program. that's what the republican party is trying to avoid come 2014. >> thanks so all of you. we have abbreviated time this morning because of the breaking news out of cleveland. t

one of the reasons we followed it is roger ayles, our chairman and ceo. anybody else. why is this story important to us? >> well, i think roger is a guy who created fox news so there would be a skeptical voice for government stories when they came from a certain direction and this is fox news at its best. he saw that it was a story and it was clear that the other side didn't want to make it a story. >> steve: why is that until the last couple of weeks, they've been nowhere on this. >> the main stream media bodes for obama and this was not a good story for obama. they don't want what's happening in the middle east to be about geed ha. they want it to be what's happening in california. they don't want it to be about its imcompetence in a situation in which people could have been saved and evidently nobody tried. then the administration made things worse by putting susan rice on five shows at once, which is the equivalent of a presidential address or something. if you do that, at least you go on with right information. she hadn't. roger is unlike some of the