what do we know about the roger ayles story? politico reporting? >> what politico has reported is that gabe sherman has driven a lot of this coverage. but these accusations against ayles which sounded true but no one really knew -- >> rose: defending and the -- rupert murdoch and his two sons who have increasingly powerful roles within the company, are not saying anything, the investigation is done by an independent law firm, not within. >> 20th century fox the parent company over fox, seemed skeptical over roger ayles. that's why first these accusations seemed a little unfair to him, seemed if he were going to go, he would have gone into a pod, because of accusations, the parent fox company, those who had it out for roger anyway they took their opportunity and then today with reports that meghan kelly hadn't turned on roger ayles -- >> rose: in a deposition she said years ago report -- >> the drugs report, based on 20th century fox did negotiations underway for roger ayles departure. >> rose: kind of a buy-out. it was an amazing thing as you sugge