just a few feet from her, and she says, you know, that this case is not about roger's hijinks, this is not about roger being rogeris one of the defenses you heard from roger stone's team, from some of the witnesses, even, saying this is roger being roger. she said the truth still exists. the truth still matters. and she addressed the political partisan divide, really, that there is over this case, the president suggesting that this case should never have been brought, this prosecution should never have been done, and there is dis disgust and the defendants' behavior should transcend. one of the interesting things we were watching for in the courtroom was how was roger m misbehaving? he would sit at the desk and make notes. when the judge read out some of his obscene emails to some witnesses, one of the out landish things he did, he turned with a smirk and looked at his cheering section. he had two rows of supporters inside this courtroom. again, just part of what you see with the roger stone case. that's unusual. we don't usually see two rows of supporters in any defendant, but that's what he had here. he turned

that's also roger being roger, isn't that the case that the defense -- his defense attorneys have been trying to argue? >> that is skaexactly the case defense attorneys have been trying to argue. that's the case they put on to the jury. and they want the jurors to believe that. they didn't believe that and prosecutors didn't believe that. and that was the whole point of this case in some ways. to prove, to show this case mattered, that people can't just behave this way, obstruct justice, come in, lie to congress, in the middle of a very important investigation, that was essentially the entire argument by the prosecution, why this case mattered, why the truth matters, why our systems matter, especially at a time when we're seeing the president attack our systems, attack the judicial system. this is the judge saying and explaining why all of this matters. she is obviously now going through the calculations, we have yet to hear exactly what the sentence is. but it does seem that the judge here for the first time, right, not holding back, expressing her views and we also have seen interest

roger being roger. this was her way to sort of say, look, roger stone, you lied to a committee at the time that was led by republicans. so this is not about political party, this is about the conduct that really showed utter disrespect to the institutions of this country, not only to the congress which deserved the truth, but also to the courts, which he repeatedly, flagrantly violated the rules about his social media activity during the trial. >> brianna, i think that was one of the many things the judge and prosecution in court were trying to do today. they were trying to hold up the sanctity of the justice system. we saw the defense apologize to the judge, we saw them say they believe the judge will be fair and just. there are real consequences when you decide to lie and obstruct and witness tamper, so i think it was sort of a coordinated effort by the judge and the prosecutors in this case to try to defend this system from these attacks that we've seen from president trump. >> sara and evan, thank you so much. stand by for me if you will there outside the district courthouse where roger stone is se

roger being roger, it has to send a message that witnesses do not get to decide themselves whether congress is entitled to the facts. stone did not address the court. he flashed a smirk as he departed the courthouse. rogerne is not going to be detained immediately. he has put in a motion with the judge for a new trial claiming juror misconduct, and the judge has said she will consider that request before stone has to start serving out his sentence. back to you! sara murray reporting. let's bring in our chief legal analyst, jeffrey toobin, and jeffrey, you have reported extensively on roger stone. do you think he can realistically expect a presidential pardon. >> i think he can bet on it. look at how the president has behaved including yesterday, tucker carlson's plea for a pardon. the string of pardons this week. i think this is as close to a sure bet as exists when this pardon will come down whether it's before or after november, i can't say that for sure, but i don't think radiology stone is going to serve anything near three years and four months. >> yeah, the president said eventually he might be exonerated. he's going to wait a little bit and see what happens but i think no one would be surprised i

roger stone today is contemplating giving him a new trial. that is something she will consider and why she is not sending roger stone to jail right now. that will happen potentially after. but it could be weeks or months before we find out if he gets a new trial. but three years, four months for rogertone. >> dana: awaiting that news, thank you so much, for more in this let's bring in criminal defense attorney. there is a lot of controversy. in the president got into the middle of it too when the prosecutor suggested 7-9 years, there was a kerfuffle. people said that was excessive, so did president trump. but the prosecutors resigned because they said that it was too involved. and then when it's all said and done, the judge in the case, and she sentence roger stone, she agreed with attorney general barr. >> dana, you are absolutely right. i cannot pick a better word, kerfuffle is probably perfect. criminal sentencing is supposed to do justice. whatever justice means, that's one of the mush words that can mean different things to different people depending on just who is being gored. in a criminal case, a judge has to punish the individual. he of the individual has done wrong, they need to be punished, but the judge needs to try to deter a similar conduct the future. those are the b

roger being roger. the prosecution said they took them very seriously and urged the judge to give him a harsher sentence. she actually agreed. that is one of the things she said in the half hour, it took the case up to a new level. pushback from the doj on president trump and accepted by the religion -- rogereil: to quote the judge amy berman jackson and roger stone, he was not prosecuted some complain standing up for the president. he was prosecuted for covering up for the president. that is something that will not go down well in the white house. so what does the guy in the white house do? after this. is helping doctors provide care in whole new ways. all working with a new generation of technologies powered by our gig-speed network. because beyond technology... there is human ingenuity. every day, comcast business is helping businesses go beyond the expected. to do the extraordinary. take your business beyond. against the paper dollar. it's for my daughters and the grandchildren, that generational aspect of passing down gold is securing them a future. you have to keep cash but you don't have to keep everything in cash, you do a little bit of everything and then you sleep at night and don't worry about it. - if you've bought gold in the past or would like to learn more about why physical

roger stone was being. sued by his political enemies it arose because roger stone characteristically injected themselves smack into the middle of one of the most significant issues of the day is the wrong. thing correct this is roger stone being roger stone he's known to be a shady bunny of sorts he's been doing this for years and it's finally caught up with him in a way because president trump did a lot to ensure that roger stone didn't get the maximum the maximum amount of time it has actually gotten less than half of the initial the initial amount and you know we've seen all of the all of the arguments and everything and circled around bill barr and the conversations he's had how he tried to dial things back as the trump's trump instigation in this in this process but i do think that there's something to be said about this president deciding that because he's had such a loyal person and roger stone that he was going to ensure that he did not he did not baseball penalties it's going to be interesting to see how it goes for them and the judge did kind of say like i didn't know she could have that middle of the road decision on that she didn't give him nothing but she didn't give him everything it's going to be in

roger being roger. he lied to our elected representatives. the sentence is not just about punishing him but also about deterring others and upholding the law. it has to send the message that witnesses do not get to decide for themselves whether congress is entitled to the facts based on what they think about the topic being investigated or who they fear could be embarrassed by the topic being investigated. the judge says, quote, there was nothing unfair, phony, or disgraceful about the investigation or the prosecution. the house committee, which stone lied to, which at the time stone testified was under the control of the republican majority. the senate intelligence committee which remains under the control of the republican majority, the special counsel who was appointed by and serving under the supervision of the acting attorney general of this administration and the current inspector general of the current department of justice, all investigated the circumstances surrounding the 2016 election. and all have concluded like the multiple agencies charged with protecting the united states' national security that the fact that there was a russian attempt to interfere in the election was beyond debate. it's a matter of enormous public concern. and therefore the house committee, the judge says, the house committee had legitimate grounds, indeed a duty to inquire how materials belonging to the democratic national committee ended up in the hands of wikileaks and whether russia played any role in that. indeed, a duty to inquire whether there was any involvement, encouragement, collaboration on the part of the trump campaign. the legitimacy of the inquiry is an entirely separate question from whether anyone found enough evidence to draw a conclusion at the end of the day. rogertone, the defendant, took it upon himself to lie to impede, to obstruct, before the investigation was complete. and he endeavored to influence the result. how could the committee do its job and reach the correct conclusion under those circumstances? what did the defense say to the jury on his behalf? they said so what, so what? of all the circumstances in this case that may be the most pernicious. the judge says, quote, the truth still exists, the truth still matters. roger stone's insistence that it doesn't, his belligerence, his pride in his own lies are a threat to our most fundamental institutions to the very foundation of our democracy. and if it goes unpunished it will not be a victory for one party or another. everyone loses because everyone depends on the representatives they elect to make the right decisions on a myriad of issues, many of which are politically charged but many of which aren't and they must make those decisions based on the facts. everyone depends on our electe

roger just being roger. he lied to congress, lied to our elected representatives. roger stone will not be sentenced for who his friends are or who his enemies are, the president views it as a partisan hit job. >> i think that is the best thing to do. because i would love to see roger exonerated. and i would love to see it happen because i think he was treated fairly and fairly. >> the judge compared stone's 40 month sentence to scooter libby received 30 months for lying and obstructing justice as a top aide to dick cheney. donald trump pardoned libby in 2018. democrat adam schiff foreshadowed his response to a possible pardoned tweeting to pardon stone when his crimes were committed to protect trump would be a breathtaking act of corruption. >> roger stone and everybody has to be treated fairly and this is not been a fair process, okay. >> as the president notes, there's more to play out, stone is free tonight because his attorneys want a new trial. one of their argument centers on the jury's for men who allegedly didn't disclose social media posts that were critical of

roger being roger, stone's attorney tried to say he's a family man, about to be a great grandfather, no criminal record and has done charitable work, the judge wasn't buying it saying that the original sentencing recommendation was in the range where it should be, we are talking 7 to 9 years, and then asked the department of justice why the change happened, the attorney at that point didn't know what what's the miscommunication was as they described it but, again, the judge appearing not to sort of take the argument from the defense that this is kind of rogering down more on the harsher side when the sentencing comes down, we will have to see what happens in about 10 or 15 minutes. stuart: all right, edward, we will be back to you, we have dan henninger from the wall street journal, he says attorney general barr is needed by president trump, trump needs -- wait a minute, wait a minute. look at the market. what the devil is going on here? now we are down 366 points. we dropped below the 29,000 level. i'm not aware of any other factor that's affecting things other than the virus and the -- a lot of news about it, but we are clearly tumbling down 337, better than 1%. show me the other indicators, please, the s&p, i want to see the nasdaq because i'm pretty sure they'll be comparable declines right there. can we get it? please, thank you. down 38 on the s&p, 1 point whatever it is percent. what do you have ash? >> down to 1.50, that's continued to drop, we are seeing money go into gold, strongly up, gold is up $14 already at this point, clearl

roger has a very good chance of exoneration in my opinion. >> the president insisted he was never part of his campaign and dismissed stone's actions as being roger. >> is definitely a character, everybody sort of nose roger and most people like him, some people probably don't but i do and i always have. he's a little different but those are sometimes the most interesting. >> judge jackson appear to disagree pulling no punches with stone saying "this is not campaign hijinks, this is not roger just being roger, he lied to congress and lied to our elected representatives." the sentence is less than half of what prosecutors initially recommended and in line with what a revised doj recommendation suggested was fair. judge jackson, an obama appointee, dismissed trump's claim that it was a partisan witch hunt saying that stone was not standing up for the president, he was prosecuted for covering up for the president. the next step is whether she will order a retrial, stone was alleging a political bias on the part of a jury for woman and got back up today from the president. >> this was a woman who was an anti-trump person, totally. >> the judge prays to the jury saying they served with integrity under difficul

being treated unfairly, the judge saying this, and i quote. this case did not arise because roger stone was being pursued by his political enemies. it arose because roger stone characteristically injected himself smack into the middle of one of the most significant issues of the day. and then going on, bluntly to say, he was not prosecuted as some have complained, for standing up for the president. he was prosecuted for covering up for the president. and then there's her response to stone's threats against a witness and his dogs. stone wrote in 2018, and i'm quoting here, you are a rat, a stoolie. you back stab your friends. run your mouth. my lawyers are dying to rip you to shreds. going on to say, prepare to die. his lawyer arguing that it was just stone being stone. well, judge amy berman jackson saying this. the defendant lied about a matter of great national and international significance. this is not campaign high jinx. this is not roger stone being roger. he lied to congress. he lied to our elected representatives. and there's this. quote, sure, the defense is free to say, so what, who cares? but i'll say this. congress cared. the united states

roger just being roger. he lied to congress. he lied to our elected representatives. now, the judge is delaying the execution of the sentence, not something we normally see, because she has to rule on that new motion. there is a potential political bias with a juror that was just discussed. they could grant him a new trial. now, the original prosecutors in the case, neil, that had prosecuted this case from the beginning, they quit after that 7-9 year sentence came down from thef justice after i should say the attorney general's office said it was too harsh. there were two new prosecutors from the department of justice arguing. she insists that even though trump has been complaining about it on twitter, that has nothing to do with what he said. now, i want to tell you this, that a source of the justice department does say that attorney general bill barr believes that rogertone should have been convicted back in november. as far as where we go now, it's going to be an interesting process, neil. we have to see if judge amy jackson will grant roger stone a new trial and as you just saw from trump, he will make his determination. back to you. >> neil: david, thank you very, very much. democratic congressman adam schiff, not happy with this, tweeting the following. "roger stone was found guilty of lying to congress, threatening a witness peered he did it to cover up for trump. the senate is justified. it should go without saying. but to pardon stone won his crimes were committed to protect would be a breathtaking act of corruption. so, what happens now? what you think i'm a judge? >> well, next week, the trial judge will hold a hearing in which this juror will be put on the witness stand. the new prosecutors will interrogate her. now, she is a lawyer. the bias wasn't stated in her twitter feed. it was a closed twitter feed, so the government and it discover

roger stone. and the question of the roger stone pardon could be exactly how much time is roger stone willing to do. if roger stone is not willing to do a single night in prison, never mind all the way to november, then donald trump may be facing a pardon demand, in effect, from roger stone right now. >> i think president trump is doing what predators do, and that is grooming his victims. essen he is sensitizing the public that pardoning is not a big deal. pardoneni pardoning people like rod blagojevich, people engaging in corrupt activity, kerik, these aren't serious crimes. nobody got hurt. roger stone's name is the next that comes up for a pardon. he gets grouped into the whole category of people who, eh, haven't done anything all that bad. >> ben, before we go to a break, a word about the washington post report tonight indicating that william barr is thinking about resigning. the article says that william barr specifically has warned the president that this is a problem for him. what's your take on that? >> i think it clearly is a problem for him, and it has dramatically eroded his already impa

roger stone is anything but an abuse of the pardon power. and when i hear he tweets things like i suspect roger stone will be exonerated, i'm not sure the president understands pardoning roger stone would be the farthest thing from an exoneration. judge amy berman jackson just spent three hours in the court room meticulously going through roger stone's crimes, how it was not a political prosecution. she even took the audience through roger stone obstructing his own case. if i could read one quote quickly. she said and i quote, you, roger stone, used the tools of social media to disseminate in the broadest way possible your incendiary messaging on instagram and twitter, designed to disrupt these proceedings. nicolle, that was over and above his obstruction of congress and his tampering with a witness. he continued to try to disrupt his very criminal case. i mean, there is nothing the president can say or do that would even come close to an kpaun rag exoneration of roger stone. >> the president today in his own words, in public promised an exoneration of roger stone. how do you exonerate him other than a pard snn >> that's all i could think of. i guess because he's the top la

be decided. and roger stone will be free in the meantime, while she is deciding that. we are waiting for rogert's a picture you're looking at now on the left side of your screen. that he had been previously under a gag order. we know his lawyers are asking for that to be lifted, since he has already received a verdict and now is sentenced. if that gag order is lifted we think maybe he might come out and talk to reporters. otherwise he will not. thus we are waiting for right now, setting the table. you look like you have a few more details over there. >> harris: well, i'm watching the president's twitter. i do know that two hours ago they say roger stone lied to congress, at cnn. oh, i see. so did comey." and he also leaked classified information." this is the president's twitter. "goes to jail for a long time, and so did andy mccabe, who lies to the fbi. fairness? fairness. "maybe there will be response on a social media. his confidant and friend, roger stone, has been sentenced, as you said, to 40 months. a lot less than what prosecutors originally wanted. and it matches, as i believe you jus

roger and pam took a polygraph test. and what do you know? roger was found to be deceptive. and pam? was jumpy. the operator couldn't complete the test. but still, roger up and down they had nothing to do with it, they were victims themselves. truth be told, the police needed some real evidence. and out of the blue something arrived. >> investigators are confronted with new evidence and strange does not begin to describe it. someone saw the killing. in a dream. coming up -- >> i have a photo line-up drawn up, and she puts her finger on him. she puts it right on roger's face. >> when "dateline" continues. or we could do a hail of coupons? i can assure you gina, the enemy does not fear coupons. well there are no bad ideas. yah, except coupons. possibly the best yogurt in the world. you have power over pain, so the whole world looks different. the unbeatable strength of advil. what pain? americans have come to lendingtree.com to shop and compare their loans and credit cards for over 20 years. now with the new lending tree app you can go beyond loan shopping and see your full financial health, including your free credit score, ongoing credit monitoring, y

be coming. will he pardon roger stone, who will be sentenced tomorrow. >> reporter: well, david, roger stone was seen leaving florida today, coming here to washington for his sentencing tomorrow mo pe about apardon. offeredt answ, h has talked stone, said at,heay he p way he's even attacked the judge in this case, it sure sounds like the president is gearing up for a parton. david? >> jon karl with us again tonight. thank you. >>> we're also following a breaking headline overseas tonight from germany. several people are reportedly seriously hurt after a shooting in the german city of hanal. that's a half hour east of frankfurt. pictures just coming in from the crime scene in the city's s no weird y motive or suspects or the toll tonight. >>> back here at home and the welcome image late today of nascar driver ryan newman, after that horrific crash at the daytona 500. newman was seen walking out of the hospital, holding the hands of his two daughters just 48 hours after that crash. abc's victor oquendo from florida tonight. >> to the inside -- >> reporter: tonight, less than 48 hours after this ho

be coming. will he pardon roger stone, who will be sentenced tomorrow. >> reporter: well, david, roger stone was seen leaving florida today, coming here to washington for his sentencing tomorrow morning. the president has been asked repeatedly about a pardon. he hasn't offered a direct answer, but the way he has talked about stone, said he's been mistreated, the way he's attacked the prosecutors, the way he's even attacked the judge in this case, it sure sounds like the president is gearing up for a pardon. david? >> jon karl with us again tonight. thank you, jon. >>> and we are also following a breaking headline overseas tonight, from germany the ap and local police are now reporting at least eight people are dead after shootings at two locations in the german city of hanau. abc news has not independently confirmed that number. that's about a half hour east of frankfurt. pictures just coming in from the crime scene in the city's downtown area. german police say several are seriously hurt. a dark vehicle was seen leaving one of the locations. no word tonight on a motive or on suspects. >>> back

roger stone is not being persecuted for political reasons. she said, remember, this was the republican-controlled house intelligence committee that initially raised concerns that roger stone's testimonyhat he mo congress. in other words, not partisan origins. and she said rogert pursued by his political enemies. she said, quote, he injected himself smack into the 2016 campaign by falsely claiming that he knew what wikileaks was planning. she said that he cultivated this image throughout his life of being a bare-knuckled political advocate, but she said that doesn't count. she wasn't passing judgment on roger stone as a man, she was concerned about his lying to congress on what she said was a matter of great national and international significance. and she said he -- she also made a veiled reference, i don't think anyone in the courtroom missed the point of this, she said it's important that the sentence was handed down by someone who was neutral, who was not engaged in a political battle. and she said the judgment has to be made by somebody neutral, not someone who benefitted politically from roger stone's conduct. a clear reference to the president. she said the comments that have been made outside this courtroom have been inappropriate. so that was obvious

roger stone. that means he's saying that corrupt people prosecuted roger stone. so the president is already saying that a pardon for roger stone is completely justifiable. roger stone will be sentenced next week. on thursday by a federal judge, amy berman jackson who was appointed by barack obama. judge jackson can completely ignore the justice department's lowered recommendation of a sentence. but what we will be surely reporting next thursday night is that donald trump thinks the sentence judge jackson has given roger stone is vicious and unfair, and that she did it because she was appointed by a president not named donald trump. if donald trump does that, what you can be sure of is that the attorney general of the united states will not say one word of it as donald trump has done before. attorney general william barr is now scheduled to testify to the house judiciary xhoe on march 31st. by that time, the attorney general might be answering questions about the trump pardon of roger stone. leading off our discussion. democratic congressman sean patrick maloney. sherylin is with us, the director counsel of the naacp legal defense and education fund, and glen kishner, forme

but frankly, what we know about climate change and aviation, that will be a very difficult case to make. roger, many thanks. rogern. in a moment we'll speak to our global business correspondent, dharshini david. this probably won't be the last of it, will it? heathrow airport has said it will appeal. indeed. it is sort of seeing this judgment today isa sort of seeing this judgment today is a hurdle to overcome, pointing out that heathrow airport has taken what it calls a lead in getting the uk aviation sector ready for a net—0 by 2015. it's quite clear why heathrow wants to do this. the boss of heathrow is on record as saying to the bbc in the last couple of days, if we don't have heathrow expansion, they will be no global britain. an exaggeration? heathrow is in fact our biggest port. 40% of oui’ is in fact our biggest port. 40% of our exports go through the airport. business have been backing up what the airport have been suggesting, some saying this could hurt regional connectivity, it could hurt businesses in terms of getting access to global markets, and yes, we do need a very smooth running logistics system

roger stone was being sentenced by the judge. the president tweeted, they say roger stone lied to congress. i guess he was watching cnn. then the president says, so did comey and he leaked classified information for which everyone goes to jail for a long time. so did andy mccabe. fairness? i find it very difficult to imagine president trump just letting the system play out and if that includes roger stone going to jail. >> and you would be right. the president is essentially saying let's let this play out. we know roger stone wants a new trial. the president is making pretty clear he's indicating if that does not play out to his satisfaction, a commutation is in the future. roger stone's allies have been lob big the president for months to pardon roger stone if he did get jail time. he did not get a short sentence from the judge today. so it's hard for the people who know the president to see how he does let this go. >> it's a shorter sentence than the original recommendation. but still three years, four months in jail is not pleasant for anyone. >>>. >>> coming up, how new attacks could have a lasting impact on the judicial system. it's not as if he's overseeing multiple u.s. intelligence agencies. president trump a names a new acting director of national intelligence who has key expertise missing from his resume. stay with us. a sommelier searches for the perfect wine. but i he

roger stone, okay. long-time associate roger stone, trump associate roger stone. he's going to be berman jackson. attorney barr intervened and the justice officials -- less time than they wanted or recommended and they later resigned. what are you expecting to see tomorrow? >> i'm expecting to see her in the area of about five years. i don't think she'll go to the top of the sentencing guideline. there's been a lot of publicity. if you look at what happened during watergate, one of the longest sentences went to gordon liddy who was the bad actor at the center of it all, and he didn't even get five years because jimmy carter commuted his sentence. so i just think she'll be in the five-year, maybe six-year range, but that's just a guess. >> listen, she's free to impose whatever she wants. do you think she's going to be affected by all this politics and everything swirling around this case? >> no, i think she's more or less -- she understands what's going on. she knows how the president operates. i do think she's going to dive a little bit into what's gone down at d.o.j. and try to g

roger stone well, sam nunnberg is an associate of roger stone and considered him to be a mentor and adviser to donald trump's 2016 presidential campaign. sam, lots of talk today all about what happens next for roger stone. in a normal world roger stone goes to jail after the sentencing but he asked for a reconsideration of his trial and president trump's been tweeting about him. others have been tweeting about him. folks at fox talking aability a pardon or a commutation. what do you think is likely to happen? >> i think the president is trying to figure out does he commute the sentence in the very least before roger would have to go to jail? or, before barr has to testify. i believe barr is testifying in a couple weeks to the house. remember, his attorney general has already said that he viewed this as a righteous prosecution. he said that he at least approved the memo in the minimum for at least five years. >> right. barr, if one doesn't like the fact that barr got involved, the fact is only to adjust what the sentencing recommendation was, not the idea that roger stone isn't guilty. >> correct. i think the president -- there's internal pushback i understand. this is the president's decision, th

roger stone or wait until after the election. no. the president must pardon stone immediately. trump's voters know that at some point they could be where roger stone is right now. this is a horrifying precedent for everyone. it cannot be allowed to stand. michael caputo is a former trump campaign adviser. thanks for joining us. do you think there's any chance that roger stone will be facing prison 40 months if he hadn't supported donald trump? >> no. in fact, if roger stone were a democrat, he would be lauded just like mccabe and the others out there. as you know, tucker, the washington district is as toxic and unfair to republicans. if roger stone does get a retrial, which he should considering the malice and, you know, the lies that were told by that juror, he should -- a.g. barr should have it outside of washington d.c. there's no chance that he gets a fail trial in d.c. give him a fighting chance. have the trial outside of d.c. let me tell you something, tucker. tamika hart, the juror that was a lieutenant in the resistance that managed to make herself the foreperson, it's reported by people that were in the trial today that she was outside the building at the courthouse today trying to figure out whether she wanted to go in or not. she was sighted out there when people recognized her, she ran off. this is a toxic place, washington d.c. there's n

roger stone. roger stone has the goods on donald trump. roger stone is on his way to jail for lying to protect donald trump. so i think we should fully expect that roger stone will berotected because trump is concerned that when stone hears those clang clang clangs of the jailhouse door closing he's going to want to make a deal with prosecutors. trump wants to send a clear message, don't do that, roger, i got you. >> yeah, looks like it anyway. another explosive out today. julian assange is making a bombshell new allegation about president trump. as the associated press reports, assange plans to claim during an extradition hearing under oath i suppose that the trump administration offered him a pardon if he agreed to say russia was not involved in leaking dnc e-mails during the 2016 election. that's according to his lawyers, who say the offer was relayed by former republican congressman from california dana rohrabacher three years ago. the white house press secretary told the a.p. "this is absolutely and completely false." and former congressman rohrabacher says, "at no time did i offer a deal made by the president nor did i say i was representing the president." p

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roger exonerated. but roger stone and everybody has to be treated fairly and this has not been a fair process. >> rogertone was convicted by a jury of seven different crimes. lying to congress, tampering with evidence. the president said -- you read that, translation, i'm going to wait for the appeals process to play out but i have the pen i can take care of this. >> all of this is happening after he was acquitted in the senate in impeachment and also that president trump was doling out pardons and clemency in a week that roger stone, you know, is getting sentenced. also probably not a complete coincidence. >> to your point, it will be interesting, see if anyone in the senate wants to stand up in the election year and worried about making him mad at them. >>> two giant super tuesdays for michael bloomberg. one is a giant redo. >> i want to talk about who we're running against a billionaire who calls women fat broads and horse-faced lesbians and no, i'm not talking about trump. i'm talking about mayor bloomberg. it's powerful, fda-approved to relieve moderate pain for up to 12 hours, yet non-addictive a

be a fox alert. let me step back and look. the judge of the roger stone case will be taking up this sentencing issue for roger stone. of course, it caused a big dustup in washington and still does with a number of judges meeting on the subject, thousand plus former justice workers that claimed that he went one step too far to insert himself in a case. i never had a chance to talk to you about all of that. how do you feel about it? >> i understand that mr. stone's lawyers have raised an issue about the impartiality of at least one juror. my response to that is that is why god made a panel of judges. you raise those issues on appe appeal. we've had a little dustup in terms of the sentencing. let me be clear. i trust bill barr. now, i know that there are like 1100. i read 1100 former officials wanting to resign. if you look deeply, you will find that's been put together by a group called "project democracy," which is a group that is just to the left of john lennon. i think everyone ought to leave bill barr alone and let him do his job. >> neil: apparently the president agreed with you. this is what he had to say earlier

candidate richard bergen there joining me now is someone who refuses to be silent over julian songe pink floyd co-founder roger waters roger thanks for coming in the studio at last this line of the finely exactly you've been campaigning for julia songe eloquently there you talked about there by richard bergen you know that the british guardian newspaper or maybe channel 4 news if you watch that you could be forgiven for thinking you and richard bergen and others are basically campaigning for russian agent who's committed sex crimes i mean everything that he's said now in strew. how they're even having these sex titian. trial for julian assange is weird because it's goes completely contrary as we know to u.k. law so our law the law of this country the law that supposed to represent always tradition treaty with the united today has a treaty but it specifically precludes anything that could be claimed to be a political crime or a political misdemeanor which obviously this is because julian is sunshine is only crime is to speak the truth to the people and he's speaking truth to a powerful elite to do not want the truth spoken

and what happened to roger stone, i'm not a fan of roger stone for various reasons, but what happened roger stone should ben outrage to republicans, democrats, and independence. a man in his 60's whose wife is hard of hearing, has a morning raid on his house with swat , where are the dawn raids brennan,comey and john who perjure themselves in front of congress? it is the privacy of justice and the president called them out, and he has every right to do so. did you talk to the president at all about your? decision regarding the recommendations? >> never. >> did anybody from the white house call to try to influence you? >> no. is one of the things that surprised me the most at the white house. spent onon exoneration. when our raise the issue once with the president, i was so surprised by his attitude, that he was completely hands-off. yet he will tweet about issues, but the idea is going to reach no,nd rattle cages, he said let it collapse by itself, and that's what he's doing with roger stone. news, the fact that he's chosen another attorney to review the flynn case, another egregious abuse of power is also

roger stone. you don't have to like roger stone. to be fair, i know roger. re in south florida with me i see him a lot. i'm not personal friends with hill. i don't know roger. he went through the justice system but nine years for someone with no criminal history. you want this guy to die in prison? let's just be candid. the left is all in on the police state right now and government spying. they just are. there is no other way to describe it. steve: it looks as if the judge is going to have a meeting on the roger stone case tomorrow considering whether or not to do a new trial. dan, we saved your best topic for last. that is just watch, ladies and gentlemen, watch his face. hillary clinton is being considered supposedly by michael bloomberg to be his runs mate as vice president. dan bongino, your reaction? [laughter] >> i mean, really, i'm glad you are giving a go at comedy this early in the morning. you are serious, this is a real news story. i saw it yesterday as a real news story at leastth scoop supposedly is are they intentionally trying to blow this ele

the judge that there should be an enhancement in the meaning that roger stone should get more prison time because of his threats to randy credico, someone who has known rogerestified in the trial, that roger stone had threatened him. credico has said he is not -- he didn't take the threats seriously. nonetheless, prosecutors have taken it seriously. a jury convicted roger stone of this. and now the current prosecutor is saying that they agree. they believe roger stone should get more prison time, enhancement because of that threat. and the other thing i want to point out is that the judge here has basically taken the swipe at the president here in arguing that people didn't just wake up last night, and realize that the sentencing guidelines are sort of a concern. so she made that point as well, very early, still a lot to go here. >> shimon, to be clear, this gets to the core of the case, does it not? these threats are the basis or much of the basis for the witness tampering here and judge jackson read into the record a few of stone's texts. tell us in brief form the nature of the threats we're talking about here. >> one exchange where they -- there was cur

roger stone. russia in one entirely constitutional act, the president could save roger stone's life, vindicate himself, and end this nonsense forever. let's hope he does it. we'll be watching. tom fitton has been following the roger case since day one. he joins us tonight. he's of course the president of judicial watch. tom, this is the most political prosecution i have ever seen in this country. the more you know about it, the more shocking it is. tell us why we should doubt the fairness of these proceedings. >> it rises out of the mueller investigation, which has been a thoroughly compromised by not only the fisa come up with the political nature of the investigators, most of whom are democrats are democrat donors. you also have them investigating trump for almost two years, knowing the underlying issue, russia collusion was a big scam and a big lie. they knew that from the get-go. and on the stone case, you have at least two of the investigators, two of the prosecutors who "resigned" from the case where mueller operatives, who have obviously an interest here, and so when you have prosecutors and a justice department, three of whom, by the way, who resigned, three of those were democrats, as best as i can tell,

roger stone, someone the president is incredibly close with. now, roger stone is set to be sentenced next week and you have seen the president attacking the very knowledge on twitter against the judge who will sentence roger stone and questions whether the president will ultimately follow-through offering him a pardon. >> thank you so much for that report. the gravity of this can't be understated, the four prosecutors quit the case after their recommendations were sum mary sidelined. sara is with us. what more can you tell us about these men? >> i think you're right. no understating these with roger stone set to appear next week. and one of the key prosecutors on the stone case, questioned witnesses at the trial, he was the first one to tell the judge he was quitting the case and also quitting his role with the dc u.s. attorney's office. he remains in a position with the boston attorney's office but did not quit completely. one who did is jonathan kravis. he with drew from the case and resigned from the dc u.s. attorney's office. another guy is adam jed, on the mueller team, involved in the roger stone case and paul manafort case and no longer involved in the roger stone case and notified the judge he wan

clemency just a few days before he could conceivably parted roger stone, and then all of this would pretty much be -- would be forgotten, and maybe rogertone would be thrown into that mix. he was pressed about it, asked about it, on thearc during that press conference, and he said, "you will have to wait and see." laur with the democrats, michael bloomberg is at 19% in national pol not even in a primary or a caucus until super tuesday, and yet, could he be the centrist alternative to bernie sanders? anthony: i is remarkable the progress that michael bloomberg has made despite the fact he has not been any -- has not been in any debates before now. it is unprecedented, but he has been spending millions of advertising.elevision and online i saw a poll that came out earlier that said that 69% o l americans had seen an advertisement byel mic bloomberg in one form or another. he is a fmer republican, turned independent, turned democrat, who could edge out some others. laura: bloomberg's ads are very snappy, but isn't he going to get hammered on stage for trying to buy t race? anthony: it is hard to figure out which candidate does not have a

she went on to say this, quote, this case did not arise because roger stone was being pursued by his political enemies. it arose because rogerself smack into the middle of one of the most significant issues of the day. so let's start at the white house with our