remaining in the european union i'm happy to welcome back here to the program roger casale he's founder of the new europeans it's a group that lobbies for the civil rights of british citizens in the u.k. he is also a former labor m.p. in the bridge parliament's good to have you back on the program roger i hear that congratulations are in order the organization you founded new europeans has been awarded the schwarzkopf europe award and that award recognizes excellence in strengthening the european idea so congratulations in getting that in the era of the unresolved brights dilemma how would you do that well it is a good question but i'm pleased that your view is that there are plenty of british people working in a very positive way in europe who believe in the european project and want to make a contribution and it would be a weaker european union if britain has to leave and consent as you know is very much for the rights of e.u. citizens in britain and british people in the you whose lives have been in limbo for over 3 years now for 3 years now with an uncertain future ahead of them and