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didn't roger clemens go under oath for congressional committee?iled to meet a duty of candor in the eyes of the justice department and he was tried, and, quite frankly, was basically bankrupted by our government prosecuting him. now, we can debate about when he deserved it, but henry waxman preferred that and led him to trial. eric holder certainly has some explaining to do about whether or not he was truthful to our committee. >> guys doping themselves in baseball is serious because it distorts because it ruins the game. thousands of mexicans are dead and many by these guns. >> thank you, congressman. >> thank you. >> as the scandal continues to wind its way all the way up the chain of command; there any precedent for what is taking place inside the justice department. wow! it's even bigger than i thought. welcome to progressive. do you guys insure airstreams? yep. everything from travel trailers to mega motor homes. and when your rv is covered, so is your pet. perfect. who wants a picture with flo? i do! i do! do you mind? got to make sure this

. >> bill: he's lying to congress like roger clemens? >> yes. >> i think you agree special counsel is needed because that have statement and allegedly cbs news uncovered these memos show aid year prior. i guess he could have forgoten he has a defense but there is a memo showing there was a dent in the communication detailing this investigation what is going on that there were buyers connected to the cartel making transactions july 10th of 2010. >> bill: now, there were -- several memos but were they sent to holder? >> yes. yes. weekly papers. >> bill: he's in trouble. >> this is very serious. >> you won't know that if you read the newspaper like "new york times". >> can i tell whaut defense is? they're claiming that this investigation, he was mistaken and did not deliberately lie confusing witness another investigation called wide receiver taking place in tucson that. is the story that is not believable. >> the problem is i i used to work with the department of justice. i know you assigned a code name to them. fast and furious and these

. >> and roger clemens, i think you are a baseball fan, went to congress and now is on charges of lyingore congress. the attorney general said on may 3rd that while he had just recently heard about it, only in recent weeks, and in fact we have five separate occasions where we know that he knew. we know that obama spoke out about it long before this. so the question is. >> i'm not -- i'm not sure that we knew that he knew. we know that he got many memos about this. going back at least a year before he knew. soñr withholder you always have the incompetence argument. remember, he's the guy who was in congress and said he opposed the law in arizona about immigration, and he declared it unconstitutional. he was asked if he read the law and he said no. i think it's about 8 pages. he's capable of receiving information and either not reading it or remembering it or scanning it and ignoring it. so that's possible. >> that is possible >> i won't say he lied. >> one thing that is not possible is that he bragged about the program prior to the point when he testified, and he said he only heard about

. >> compare this to writing a biography about barry bonds, roger clemens.e compare? >> it's totally different. you know, when i wrote the barry bonds biographies years ago, i was begging for someone to tell me a positive story about barry bonds. >> wow. wow. >> looking for a nugget of gold in a toilet. you can't find it. and walter payton, he was an amazing man. again, i understand why people are so protective because he was amazing. his goodness was incredible. >> hey, jeff, the final question then. there's one incident that jumps out to everyone. it occurred at the hall of fame induction. tell us about that. >> well, hall of fame is the biggest moment in a football players life. and he was miserable. he was four days of misery. he had his wife connie, she was in the first row of the induction. and his girl friend was in the second row. connie had known about the girlfriend, but there was a real tension in walter for the entire time. he kept worrying, are they going to meet? and they did meet at the end later on. it wasn't actually nearly the big deal that

. >> it's like roger clemens who went before congress and allegedly lied. if eric holder when he said i'm not sure of the exact date but i probably heard about fast and furious for the first time over the last few weeks he said that in may of this year. and it turns out now there are memos dated back from last july of 2010. >> bill: we know all of that. >> all right. so the point is, if he lied, and if there is perjury there, then that's end of his career. >> bill: it is perjury. >> may be the end of his career if obama miraculously gets a second term. he may have a different attorney general. >> bill: we won't convict the guy on television. two things, it isn't perjury because he didn't take an oath it is against the law as judge napolitano already has him in the penitentiary by the way. we are not going to do that here because we are fair. see how that plays out. big mistake for barack obama to come out yesterday and say he told the truth. the president doesn't know whether he told the truth to. say he did puts him in the richard nixon category and he bet

. >> compare this, too, then writing biographies about barry bonds, roger clemens.? >> it's totally different. when i wrote the barry bonds biography years ago, i was begging for people. i mean, begging for someone to tell me a positive story about barry bonds. >> wow. >> it was like looking for a nugget of gold in a toilet. you can't find it. it was so hard. walter payton was this amazing man. i understand why people are so protective because he was amazing. his goodness was incredible. >> there's one incident that jumps out to everyone in the book. it occurred at his hall of fame introduction. tell us about it. >> well, when he was -- you know, hall of fame, of course, is the biggest moment in a football player's life. walter payton was miserable. it was four days of misery. he had his wife connie, who he'd been married to for a long time but was separated from at this time, was in the first row of the induction. and his -- his girlfriend was in the second row. and, you know, connie had known about the girlfriend. but there was this real tension in walter for the

so lying before congress, like roger clemens. >> of course. >> bill: so you both agree, and i think youat special counsel is needed because of that statement. >> right. >> bill: subsequently cbs news uncovered these memos that showed a year prior. now, i guess mr. holder could have forgotten about them. >> yeah. he has a defense for it, but there is a memo in writing that shows this was sent to him, a communication from michael walter, the director of national drug intelligence center detailing this investigation, what was going on, that there were straw buyers that were connected to the cartel making these transactions that july 10 of 2010. >> bill: several memos. >> several. >> bill: but those memos, were they sent to holder? >> yes. >> there was a weekly -- >> bill: so he's in trouble? >> he is. very serious. >> bill: but you wouldn't know that if you read the newspapers like the "new york times." this story is buried, right? >> can i tell you what his defense is? because they released a statement. basically they're claiming this investigation he got confused, that he was mistaken, t

. >> and compare this then to writing a biographies about barry bonds, roger clemens and how this wouldis totally different. when i wrote the barry bonds' biography years ago i was begging for people, and begging for somebody to tell me a positive story about barry bonds, and it was like looking for a nugget of gold in a toilet. you can't find it. it was so hard. and walter payton was an amazing man and again, i understand why people are so prospective because he is amazing and the goodness is incredible. >> there one incident that jumps out to everybody that occurred at the hall of fame introduction and tell us about it. >> well, when he was, you know, hall of fame is the, of course, biggest moment in a football player's life, and walter payton was miserable and four days of misery, and he got his wife, connie, who had he been married to for a long time and separated from at this time was in the first row of the induction, and his girlfriend was in the second row, and, you know, connie had known about the girlfriend, but there was a real tension in walter for the entire time and he kep

roger clemens is being prosecuted not for lying under oath but giving misleading answers about the contentss a double-standard for this justice department and the republicans are quite proper to exploit that. >> judge, thank you. very much. coming up, congressman darrell issa, who is the chairman of the house oversight and government reform committee who has led the charge on this since day one. he is our guest, coming up minutes from now what he wants to happen next in this investigation and what might mean for attorney general eric holder. bill: in the meantime the battle for the nomination in 2012 on the republican side. breaking news on the monry race for the republican nomination. rick perry posting some big numbers at least when it comes to fund-raising. perry's camp announcing a whopping $17 million haul sie mid-august. that is month and a half. perry's chief rival, governor mitt romney, brought in 18 million during his first fund-raising period. perry's effort is considered stronger because he was weeks behind his fellow candidates. that is one of his strong points. 17 million is im

also there committee has the capacity, and it's been done in the past, it was done with roger clemenso say we want to vote as a committee and make a referral for prosecution of the attorney general. i think we're going to hear more from the attorney general on this. i think there is a good chance that he'll go back before this committee and testify. if i was advising him, if i was representing him i would say, yes, mr. attorney general, you're the chief law enforcement officer in this country, and we do believe you, and we do believe that you made a mistake, but tell us as to what went on in this case. megyn: explain this memo versus what was said -- >> in terms of the case law, a lot of americans are going to find this incredible. an unresponsive and misleading answer, even if it's arguably false is not necessarily perjury. the problem here, though, is this question that mr. issa asked was very clear and straightforward. it was not -- megyn: he said there was another exchange that another person asked. then there is this memo, there are a few things they are getting concerned about.