kibble white. >> and roger daltrey is with us this morning. you referred to in the title was your grammar school head master who said to you what? >> he expelled me from the school after giving me six strikes with the cane for being a rather naughty boy. and as i was leaving his office, he held the door open for me and as i walked past him he said, you'll never make anything of your life, daltrey. you know, immediately with the arrogance and, you know, the ack anger that was going through me of youth, i thought i'll show you, thanks a lot mr. kibble white. >> have you ever seen him since? >> no. but i've had come kind of second kind of contact with his family because i really mean it today as a thank you. >> right. >> i do wonder if he hadn't have said that to me which way my life would have gone. >> not before a stent as a sheet metal worker and after getting kicked out of school, i mean, how did that trajectory lead you to a band, to -- >> i was already in a band. one of the reasons i got kicked out of school i was already in a band. and tha