roger donaldson. >> i was on the voting systems task force with my colleagues here. i wanted to add a couple of things based on your comments. one is that you're clearly fairly well versed in this, and i am glad to see the interest. from our recommendations, there's quite a bit to do to make them operational, and some of the complexities that jodie alluded to are also present in our own san francisco government here with the department of elections reporting to the elections commission, etc. i do not know how you actually proceed on some of these things, but i think that one of the things that certainly can be done, particularly looking into the open source issue, and actually executing on some of the collaboration, is to fund or at least direct the d.o.e. in some way, to have them actually do some outreach to other counties. it mentions in the report some of the county's weak outreach to, in particular alameda was quite receptive. i think you will find. and then, the l.a. effort. but it is not too late to start -- i mean, it is not too early to start. in particular,