i developments in i spoke to the mp sir roger gale-— developments in i spoke to the mp sir roger gale. i don't think anyone could deny that it's _ sir roger gale. i don't think anyone could deny that it's been _ sir roger gale. i don't think anyone could deny that it's been an - could deny that it's been an extraordinary day. i've been here for getting on for a0 years and i think that i cannot recall anything like this. , . , like this. unprecedented events we've seen _ like this. unprecedented events we've seen but _ like this. unprecedented events we've seen but there _ like this. unprecedented events we've seen but there was - like this. unprecedented events we've seen but there was a - like this. unprecedented events - we've seen but there was a question that liz truss is asked that she did not seem able to answer and that is why she should continue in government when she was sacking the chancellor and we heard earlier in this programme that they said she just did not answer the question about why kwasi kwarteng should go and she should stay when they develop these policies togeth

we've just been speaking to sir roger gale. he supported penny l sir roger gale.t. mind that 20,000 tory members don't have internet— have internet. yeah, we were spared the possible — have internet. yeah, we were spared the possible massive _ have internet. yeah, we were spared the possible massive cyber— have internet. yeah, we were spared the possible massive cyber security | the possible massive cyber security issue there might have been trying to conduct an election. 0ne issue there might have been trying to conduct an election. one of the main things we found was that when we compared... the week before last, just to see whether opinions have changed, we found that the truss versus sunak numbers flips. so, there is definitely some degree of regret about having voted for liz truss. it's not clear whether that would have translated into rishi sunak beating borisjohnson are penny mourdant, but i think there was some degree of acceptance that rishi was right when he was warning about disaster. just rishi was right when he was warning about disaster.— about disas

one such critic is the veteran mp sir roger gale, who has also been speaking to martin cox.tin cox. . ., ., ., cox. i have said for a long time i don't think— cox. i have said for a long time i don't think that _ cox. i have said for a long time i don't think that mr _ cox. i have said for a long time i don't think that mrjohnson - cox. i have said for a long time i don't think that mrjohnson is i cox. i have said for a long time i don't think that mrjohnson is a l cox. i have said for a long time i i don't think that mrjohnson is a fit and proper person to be prime minister. his casual relationship with the truth makes him unfit for any office notjust high office. just for the record what i have said, and i mean this, is that were he to be chosen as leader, i would resign the whip, but not resign from the party. i have been a member of the party. i have been a member of the party. i have been a member of the party since before mrjohnson was born. i shall die a member of the conservative party, but i will not support mrjohnson. like a thank you for the clarification. how man

no, sir roger gale was absolutely _ clear on that?y correct. i - clear on that? no, sir roger gale was absolutely correct. i heard i was absolutely correct. i heard andrew griffiths on the airways saying everything is on the tear way. you could argue whether being elected by a small section of the electorate in the conservative party gives her a mandate, but such as it is, 80,000 people did not vote for everything to be on the table. they voted for what she said at that time. i think her position is completely untenable. d0 time. i think her position is completely untenable. do you think she should go? _ completely untenable. do you think she should go? i _ completely untenable. do you think she should go? i think— completely untenable. do you think she should go? i think she - completely untenable. do you think she should go? i think she has - completely untenable. do you think she should go? i think she has to i she should go? i think she has to to. she should go? i think she has to no. i she should go? i think she has to go- i don'

sir roger gale, i appreciate you taking the i gale, i appreciate you taking the time to talk to us todayme minister rishi sunak said he looks forward to working with the new president on the issues that matter most to both countries. presidentjoe biden said lula's win followed free, fair and credible elections, and that he also looked forward to working together. the french president, emmanuel macron, offered his good wishes, saying the poll opened "a new page" in brazil's history. joining us now is dr vinicius de carvalho, reader in brazilian and latin american studies at king's college london and an associate researcher at the centre for strategic studies of the brazilian navy. i appreciate your time. what is your reaction to mr lula victory? what changes does brazil need to see moving forward? tt is changes does brazil need to see moving forward?— changes does brazil need to see moving forward? it is the divisive moment for— moving forward? it is the divisive moment for brazil. _ moving forward? it is the divisive moment for brazil. the _ moving forward? it is the divisive moment for

the home secretary was responding to sir roger gale.ho visited this weekend, said things have gone badly because the new home secretary ignored advice from her officials and refused to procure alternative hotel accomodation. that facility operated absolutely magnificently and very efficiently indeed until five weeks ago, when, and afraid, the home secretary took the policy decision not to commission further accommodation, and it is that that has led to the crisis at manston. the home secretary denies that was the case. on no occasion have i blocked the procurement of hotels or alternative accommodation to ease the pressure on manston. i'm afraid that simply isn't true, and since — i'll repeat it again, but since september the 6th, when i was appointed, over 30 new hotels have been agreed to. they will provide over a500 additional hotel bed spaces, many of those available to the people in manston. justin, sir roger gale seems clear in his mind whose is responsible for this, the home secretary's account of things appears to be at odds wit

for to the camp in recent days is the local mp, sir roger gale.- local mp, sir roger gale.o move them on within 24 hours, it has turned into a refugee camp housing 4000 people, and it is simply not fit for that purpose.— fit for that purpose. normally the mi . rants fit for that purpose. normally the migrants at _ fit for that purpose. normally the migrants at manston _ fit for that purpose. normally the migrants at manston are - fit for that purpose. normally the i migrants at manston are processed and sent to hotels, but that has not been happening recently because hotel rooms were not booked. last week the chief inspector of immigration described the situation at manston as dangerous. here is our home affairs correspondent on the sort of living conditions that people are facing. they found somebody who had been living there for 32 days, a mother with children and they were sleeping on mats and in a bar key. effectively they had been camping for a month. the question is, why weren't the hotels booked? sir roger gale thinks it was a deliberate decision. iloathed booked? si

he travelled there with sir roger gale — conservative mp for thanet north — he's been speaking to the programme about how he felt with what he saw. hugely depressed, because when i last visited in july it was a hugely depressed, because when i last visited injuly it was a good facility being very well run with people moving through as they were intended to. that's how the facility was set up. what i saw yesterday and indeed previously on thursday, was a deterioration actually between thursday and yesterday. the staff, the home office staff, the civilian staff and medical staff are doing a fantasticjob under very difficult fantastic job under very difficult circumstances fantasticjob under very difficult circumstances but the fact of the matter is, it is overwhelmed and it is wholly unacceptable. the matter is, it is overwhelmed and it is wholly unacceptable.— is wholly unacceptable. the chief insector is wholly unacceptable. the chief insnector said — is wholly unacceptable. the chief inspector said that _ is wholly unacceptable. the chief inspector said that he _ is wholly unacceptab

let's look at the letter i. interviewed sir roger gale last night, and he said if it was mr johnson backwould resign johnson back on the ticket or in number ten, he would resign the party. he doesn't think he's a fit person. how many people will have been ganging up on him and saying, "don't... " it's notjust mps, is conservative supporting journalist and mp years that would've been saying to him, please don't do this. well, he's not interested in anyone else thinks — well, he's not interested in anyone else thinks. he's only interested in him and _ else thinks. he's only interested in him and sell. i will keep making that point _ him and sell. i will keep making that point. in terms of... nothing has changed. rishi will still inherit— has changed. rishi will still inherit a _ has changed. rishi will still inherit a fractious party, just the same _ inherit a fractious party, just the same li2— inherit a fractious party, just the same liz truss was leading. just the same _ same liz truss was leading. just the same boris — same liz truss was leading. just the same borisjohnson was same liz

sir roger gale is a veteran conservative mp.body could deny that it's been an extraordinary day. i've been in the house for getting on for a0 years and i can't recall anything like it. unprecedented events we've seen, that she didn't seem able to answer and that was why she should continue in government when she was sacking her chancellor. and we heard earlier on this programme from sir malcolm rifkind, who said that she just didn't answer that question about why kwasi kwarteng should go and she should stay when they had developed these policies together. what's your response to that? more to the point, she didn't answer the question that wasn't asked. none of the four journalists who were questioning her asked her why she'd sacked the chancellor in terms. now, given that she said they are in lockstep, that they are pursuing the same policies, that they are going for growth, that that is what she wants to pursue. and the fact that she and her chancellor presented the budget effectively together, signed off, as i understand it, b

to become prime minister again, and secondly, there are people in the party, we have heard from roger galehas always been a long—standing critic of borisjohnson, but been a long—standing critic of boris johnson, but there been a long—standing critic of borisjohnson, but there are others we understand who would resign the whip and others who feel very aggrieved by what has happened in the latter days of boris johnson's happened in the latter days of borisjohnson�*s premiership. and we have viewers from all around the world watching us now, probably watching with incredulity what is happening incredulity what is happening in british politics at the moment, so for them, just explain what sort of support borisjohnson would seem to have from party members, not the mps, and how that would make a difference? i the mps, and how that would make a difference?— make a difference? i mean, historically, _ make a difference? i mean, historically, boris _ make a difference? i mean, historically, boris johnson l make a difference? i mean, i historically, boris johnson has historically, borisjohnson has al

can he convince some of those conservative mps like roger gale and andrew bridgeman, who have said theye the party if he becomes the next prime minister. that is how strong feeling is against him. iii that is how strong feeling is against him.— that is how strong feeling is against him. that is how strong feeling is auainst him. ., ., against him. if we look at the other otential against him. if we look at the other potential candidates, _ against him. if we look at the other potential candidates, rishi - against him. if we look at the other potential candidates, rishi sunak. against him. if we look at the otherj potential candidates, rishi sunak is the only one to have gained the 100 mps in terms of backing, but when it comes to how successful he might be in terms of public opinion, how likely is that, given that he too got fine over partygate. he likely is that, given that he too got fine over partygate. he was, and that has stymied _ got fine over partygate. he was, and that has stymied his _ got fine over partygate. he was, and that has stymied his last _ that has stymied his last c

the local conservative mp, sir roger gale, with the immigration minister robertjenrick and he said itfor the home secretary not to commission more hotels for migrants to move into and it was more hotels for migrants to move into and it w short, more hotels for migrants to move into a facing short, now a is lots a is lc contact 1in l... r: --.. f f» is lc contact —— w” l... r: --.. f f» what remains of the footbridge. families were out together at the end of a week of holidays for diwali festivities. locals were the first to respond, helping pull people out. some even swimming out to rescue those stuck in the middle of the river. at one of the banks, people tried to form a human chain to reach as many as they could. the bridge, built in the 19th century, was closed for renovation for six months, reopened less than a week ago. schools were off, and so lots of people were here along with their children. the bridge collapsed because of overcrowding, sukram, an eyewitness said. at the hospital, a steady stream of the injured were brought in. this is indian prime minister nahendra modi's ho

one such critic is veteran mp sir roger gale and hejoins us.ouldn't you work with boris jonnson again as prime minister? i wouldn't you work with boris jonnson again as prime minister?— again as prime minister? i have set for very long _ again as prime minister? i have set for very long time _ again as prime minister? i have set for very long time that _ again as prime minister? i have set for very long time that i _ again as prime minister? i have set for very long time that i don't - for very long time that i don't believe for usjonnson is a fitting proper person to be prime minister. his casual relationship with the truth makes him unfit for high office, but actually any office. just for the record, what i said, and i mean this, where he to be chosen as the leader, i would resign the whip, i would not resign from the whip, i would not resign from the party. i've been a member of the party since before mrjonnson was born. i shall die a member of the conservative party, but i will not support mrjonnson.— conservative party, but i will not supp

i'm joined now by the conservative mp for north thanet, sir roger gale. good afternoon to you.er how you are feeling this weekend about the way this process of getting rid of a chancellor, retooling the economic policy really kind of rewriting the mini budget that was announced three weeks ago. how that leaves the party andindeed weeks ago. how that leaves the party and indeed the country? i’m a weeks ago. how that leaves the party and indeed the country?— and indeed the country? i'm a lot ha ier and indeed the country? i'm a lot happier today _ and indeed the country? i'm a lot happier today than _ and indeed the country? i'm a lot happier today than i _ and indeed the country? i'm a lot happier today than i was - and indeed the country? i'm a lot happier today than i was a - and indeed the country? i'm a lot happier today than i was a few i and indeed the country? i'm a lot l happier today than i was a few days ago. because i think the appointment ofjeremy hunt is sound. he is very experienced, he has held great offices of state. and secretary of health for a long time. he wa

that was so roger gale.s immunity with and get back into the business of being in government which is desperately what our constituents need. mr; which is desperately what our constituents need. my apologies, i did the you — constituents need. my apologies, i did the you have _ constituents need. my apologies, i did the you have put _ constituents need. my apologies, i did the you have put in _ constituents need. my apologies, i did the you have put in a _ constituents need. my apologies, i did the you have put in a letter, i did the you have put in a letter, thank you for clarifying. but you make a point very strongly. who are you therefore, declaring for, have you therefore, declaring for, have you made that public? t you therefore, declaring for, have you made that public?— you therefore, declaring for, have you made that public? i haven't and i am you made that public? i haven't and i am hoping — you made that public? i haven't and i am hoping not _ you made that public? i haven't and i am hoping not to

sir roger gale is the conservative mp for north thanet, he's held that seat since 1983.oday. no one can deny that it's been extraordinary _ today. no one can deny that it's been extraordinary day. - today. no one can deny that it's been extraordinary day. and i today. no one can deny that it's i been extraordinary day. and getting on for a0 years and i can like it. unprecedented events that we have seen. but there is a question that liz truss was asked that she did not seem able to answer and that is why she should continue in government when she was stacking a chancellor and we heard earlier on this programme that they said she just did not answer that question about why kwasi kwarteng should go when she should stay when they develop these policies together. what is your response to that question though she did not answer the question and none of the four journalists that were questioning her, . , ~ , journalists that were questioning her, ., , , her, asked her why she sacked the chancellor- — her, asked her why she sacked the chancellor. given _ her, asked her why she

so roger gale said he accused the government of his in his words, allowing the situation to develop deliberately. bearing in mind, he is a conservative m p, a member of the of the say that were the as the ruling government to empower what the key meant by that i think that seeing facilities a, the crowd 8 and the narrative that the system comp kate put the number of people arriving and possibly fades into the government's narrative that we can't handle the number of refugees. her i think by it's simply not changed this year and she has welcome to 166000 people. them ukraine. we have welcomed 8000 people from hong kong. it's, it's not right that we can't pay with their she of $40000.00 people are writing on bates from everywhere else in the wiles. it's just that the right investment is being made in the system that there is no political well to get those plans processed and get things. maybe not all ready needs to happen. like i say it's damaging for the refugees. it's really damaging their mental health. it's damaging to the country as a whole. i wanted to ask you about how talk sake the, the co

so, roger gale, sorry forthe interlude, so thankfully you were learning that as we were. group of mps in kent he met with her yesterday to discuss immigration policies and i think it is what is known in the trade as a full and frank discussion because i certainly, and some others, are not entirely in lockstep with the now former home secretary. but she is a talented young lady and i don't like to see anybody�*s career and in this way and i would like to hope and believe that having done the right thing now she may well come back into office at some point. i am told, and this is again, only hearsay, that it might be that grant shapps will be brought into government having been secretary of state for transport in the last administration, to take over at the home space. if that is so, then grant, i believe him to be a very able and talented man and i'm sure that if it is correct, he will do a good job at the home office. ibrute that if it is correct, he will do a good job at the home office. we are exiectini good job at the home office. we are expecting yvette _ good job at

she will be talking about the situation at manston roger gale, torian psp says it's become more like to have up to 16 hundred people but it's got some 4000. a lot of questions about that. and whether she also addresses the use of a private e—mail account will will have to wait and see. here she is. with permission, madam deputy speaker. with permission, madam deputy seaker. �* , with permission, madam deputy seaker. �*, ., ~ with permission, madam deputy seaker. �*, .,~ . ., speaker. order. let's make clear, from the beginning, _ speaker. order. let's make clear, from the beginning, this - speaker. order. let's make clear, from the beginning, this is - speaker. order. let's make clear, from the beginning, this is a - speaker. order. let's make clear, from the beginning, this is a very| from the beginning, this is a very serious _ from the beginning, this is a very serious statement on a serious matter— serious statement on a serious matter that is affecting a lot of people — matter that is affecting a lot of pe0ple in— matter that is affecting a lot of people in the home secretary wi

as we had roger gale i hotel space.ng, in view, sources told him that basically not enough hotel space had been commissioned to get people into suitable housing. if thatis people into suitable housing. if that is true, what do you make of that? ~ �* , that is true, what do you make of that? ~ �*, ., that is true, what do you make of that? . �* , ., ., that is true, what do you make of that? ~ �* , ., ., ., that? well, it's a failure of planning — that? well, it's a failure of planning and _ that? well, it's a failure of planning and a _ that? well, it's a failure of planning and a failure - that? well, it's a failure of planning and a failure of i that? well, it's a failure of. planning and a failure of the that? well, it's a failure of - planning and a failure of the home office to make provision commensurate with demand, and i think this is what the report said injuly and it was also coupled with a report from the current chief inspector of borders which was also critical of the home office. the reports are there with

sir roger gale has tweeted over night that since he last visited four days ago, another 1500 people haveffice. she is working to reduce crime, to get burglary down, to increase the number of police officers. that is her full—time, number of police officers. that is herfull—time, completely number of police officers. that is her full—time, completely focused role in dealing with this challenge. that's what she's doing. she role in dealing with this challenge. that's what she's doing.— role in dealing with this challenge. that's what she's doing. she is also havin: to that's what she's doing. she is also having to spend _ that's what she's doing. she is also having to spend a _ that's what she's doing. she is also having to spend a lot _ that's what she's doing. she is also having to spend a lot of _ that's what she's doing. she is also having to spend a lot of time - having to spend a lot of time answering questions about her use of her own mobile phone and your e—mail account. maybe she has too much on her plate at the moment. maybe she is not the right person to be in thatjob right now?

government will have to back down on this as well-— let's speak to the mp for north thanet, sir roger gale made it plain she intends to see people through what is likely to be a very hard winter and to protect the most vulnerable. you do not protect the most vulnerable by cutting benefits. by the same token, when households are facing a serious cost—of—living rise, and not matching those rises with their incomes from work, it is a difficult call to say we have got to raise benefits but on balance, my personal view is the benefits will have to go up. by the rate of inflation. because to do otherwise would leave a lot of people literally and metaphorically out in the cold. liz literally and metaphorically out in the cold. . . literally and metaphorically out in the cold. , , . , literally and metaphorically out in the cold. ,, ., , . . the cold. liz truss has been asked a number of times _ the cold. liz truss has been asked a number of times whether _ the cold. liz truss has been asked a number of times whether she - the cold. liz truss has been asked a number of times whether she will i the