let me go back to roger goodell. couldn't he just see this as a great opportunity to make a lot of money, why not? >> everything that roger goodell does is legal. no one is accusing him of any impropriety. as michael kinsley famously said, "the scandal is what's legal." for roger goodell to call his organization a nonprofit is legal, congress said he could. and then to pay himself $30 million seems oily to me. the assumption in tax law is that nonprofit status should not be used as a subterfuge for personal enrichment. that is how the nfl uses it. and it is not just him, there are several other executives who are paid multimillion dollar salaries. >> as you said earlier, this whole area has to do with the coaches and the cult of coaches in the country. but coaches, you talk about money, you talk about the kind of money that the coach of alabama gets a year. how much does he make? >> nick saban, the coach of alabama, he has won the last two bcs titles. he makes $6 million a year. that is not bad money either. what tha

. >> roger goodell, yes. the father of football. i lived in kenmore, new york, not far from jamestown where roger goodell grew up. i did that in high school when i was 17. he was renowned as a man of conscious. one of the first members of congress to come out. he's -- >> who's roger. >> roger goodell is the commissioner of the nfl. >> what did that mean? >> people think being commissioner of the nfl means he's in charge of the league. he's not. he's an employee of the owners. he's highly paid well paid employee. >> $30 million a year? >> yes. >> that's how headquarters is tax exempt. it tays roger goodell $30 million a year. >> how did that happen? >> the 1966 piece of legislation that granted the antitrust waiver also a classic example of the lobbyist art. they snuck the professional football leagues to the description of a not for profit charitable enterprise. congress voted in that bill in 1966, they said the museums, philanthropies, art institutions, opera houses, and the professional football leagues are exempt from federal tax

commissioner roger goodell has appointed a special counsel. dolphins' head coach joe philbin says his team and coaches exemplify respect. >> jonathan martin came in here and worked hard every single day. we have men in the locker room that care about one another,

the mission or roger goodell should use his power to do the right thing and change washington's team name. native people don't deserve to be treated as targets of a slur. we deserve to be treated as what we are, americans. >> paid for by the oneida indian nation of new york. >> you can make a comment on our facebook page at facebook.com/c- span. quite a conversation are going on there, including a chance to vote in the poll. finally, you can send us an e- mail at journal@c-span.org.

let me go back to roger goodell.ouldn't he just see this as a great opportunity to make a lot of money, why not? >> everything that roger goodell does is legal. no one is accusing him of impropriety. as michael kinzer famously said, the scandal is what is legal? for roger goodell to call his call hissian -- organization a nonprofit is legal and it seems oily to me. the nonprofit status should not --used as a substantive huge subterfuge for personal enrichment. >> as you said earlier, this whole area has to do with the coaches and the cult of coaches. but coaches, you talk about money, you talk about the kind of money that the coach of alabama gets a year. how much does he may? -- make? >> he makes $16 million a year. that is not that money either. what that equates to is $66,000 per year per scholarship player under his supervision. that is pretty good money. >> how does that happen? does alabama make money for education? >> all of the big football alabama comerida, ohio state and so on, they all clear $30 million to

what kind of salary are we talking about for commissioner roger goodell well the one good benefit that everyone says across the board comes out from the one nine hundred sixty six law which allows a tax exempt status that we get to know that answer is also the same reason reportedly why two thousand and seven be didn't want to do that so roger goodell makes thirty million dollars a year or two million dollars a year it's gone up exponentially people thought before they found this out they thought he was making twenty million max but it's actually thirty million dollars now it's something that's really interesting to mention when you get into the nitty gritty tax code is that as a league the n.f.l. is actually losing money the n.f.l. into t. makes a revenue of nine billion dollars a year but the n.f.l. league loses about seventy seven million dollars a year so the interesting thing is if it did in fact choose to be a for profit status it still wouldn't be paying taxes and it wouldn't be a boon to the treasury or anything like that because you have to have a profit or revenue in order to

what kind of salary are we talking about for commissioner roger goodell well the one good benefit that everyone says across the board comes out from this one nine hundred sixty six law which allows a tax exempt status that we get to know that answer is also the same reason reportedly why two thousand and seven be didn't want to do that so roger goodell makes thirty million dollars a year or two million dollars a year it's gone up exponentially people thought before they found this out they thought he was making twenty million max but it's actually thirty million dollars now it's something that's really interesting to mention when you get into the nitty gritty tax code is that as a league the n.f.l. is actually losing money the n.f.l. into t. makes a revenue of nine billion dollars a year but the n.f.l. league loses about seventy seven million dollars a year so the interesting thing is if it did in fact choose to be a for profit status it still wouldn't be paying taxes and it wouldn't be a boon to the treasury or anything like that because you have to have a profit or revenue in order t

what kind of salary are we talking about for commissioner roger goodell well the one good benefit that everyone says across the board comes out from the one nine hundred sixty six law which allows a tax exempt status that we get to know that answer is also the same reason reportedly why two thousand and seven be didn't want to do that so roger goodell makes thirty million dollars a year or two million dollars a year it's gone up exponentially people thought before they found this out they thought he was making twenty million max but it's actually thirty million dollars now something that's really interesting to mention when you get into the nitty gritty tax code is that as a league the n.f.l. is actually losing money the n.f.l. into t. makes a revenue of nine billion dollars a year but the n.f.l. league loses about seventy seven million dollars a year so the interesting thing is if it did in fact choose to be a for profit status it still would be paying taxes and it wouldn't be a boon to the treasury or anything like that because you have to have a profit or revenue in order to be able

didn't want to do that so roger goodell makes thirty million dollars a year or two million dollars a year it's gone up exponentially people thought before they found this out they thought he was making twenty million max but it's actually thirty million dollars now something that's really interesting to mention when you get into the nitty gritty tax code is that as a league the n.f.l. is actually losing money the n.f.l. into t.v. makes a revenue of nine billion dollars a year but the n.f.l. league loses about seventy seven million dollars a year so the interesting thing is if it did in fact choose to be a for profit status it still would be paying taxes and it wouldn't be a boon to the treasury or anything like that because you have to have a profit or revenue in order to be able to pay taxes and they don't have that that's crazy this is the slightly different issue that i mentioned in the introduction making but it's kind of one that perturbs me the most other that over the years in these publicly financed stadiums breakdown of how much money taxpayers are really going into this wel

roger roger goodell he makes what is this thirty million dollars a year that's not pennies are there no limits on employee compensation for tax exempt groups when it comes to tax exempt groups the rule is that a tax exempt organization can pay no more than fair market compensation for services rendered but it's very hard to say what that number or that what that magic number should be considering the fact that there is nothing like the n.f.l. so obviously these organizations are very big they're very complex but at the same time and it's important to mention that the teams do pay taxes the n.f.l. entity the n.f.l. enterprises do pay taxes but the n.f.l. league does not so it really is because we have to explain to get those numbers or it's really up to the people that watch the sport meghan thank you so much it's kind of my opening and really interesting to know that the n.b.a. never part of this is thank you so much that was negative and now it's time for today's big deal. joining me now. is to talk turkey it's good to have you here this week and if you happen to be one of the thous

roger roger goodell he makes what is this thirty million dollars a year that's not pennies are there no limits on employee compensation for tax exempt groups when it comes to tax exempt groups the rule is that a tax exempt organization can pay no more than fair market compensation for services rendered but it's very hard to say what that number or that what that magic number should be considering the fact that there is nothing like the n.f.l. so obviously these organizations are very big they're very complex but at the same time and it's important to mention that the teams do pay taxes the n.f.l. entity the n.f.l. enterprises do pay taxes but the n.f.l. league does not so it really is because we have to explain to get those numbers or it's really up to the people that watch the sport meghan thank you so much it's kind of eye opening and really interesting to know that the n.b.a. never part of this is thank you so much that was negative and now it's time for today's big deal. joining me now. is to talk turkey couple gavel it's good to have you here this weekend if you happen to be one

roger roger goodell he makes what is this thirty million dollars a year that's not pennies are there no limits on employee compensation for tax exempt groups when it comes to tax exempt groups the rule is that a tax exempt organization can pay no more than fair market compensation for services rendered but it's very hard to say what that number or that what that magic number should be considering the fact that there is nothing like the n.f.l. so obviously these organizations are very big they're very complex but at the same time and it's important to mention that the teams do pay taxes the n.f.l. entity the n.f.l. enterprises do pay taxes but the n.f.l. league does not so it really is because we have to explain and get those numbers or it's really up to the people that watch the sport meghan thank you so much it's kind of my opening and really interesting to know that the n.b.a. never part of this is thank you so much that was negative and now it's time for today's big deal. joining me now. is to talk turkey couple gavel it's good to have you here this week and if you happen to be on

i asked roger goodell about that. it doesn't mean he won't face any kind of suspension. do expect him to face a fine, however. >> probably not miss some games if you were to guess. okay. they're on a bye week. they play, the 49ers, a week from sunday at the stick against the carolina panthers. will we see number 99 out there? >> i think when you look at if in these terms that aldon smith had the dui arrest on a friday, practiced a couple hours later. he played in that game sunday. to think that he wouldn't play after going through the treatment process and the next game, november 10th, against the carolina panthers, i think that's, you have to look at it in those terms. i fully expect smith to be back on the field and helping the 49ers become a much better defense in the second half of the sfe the season. >> thank you. ahmed, back to you. >> very interesting stuff there. >>> raiders defense was the key to their victory over the pittsburgh steelers on sunday. they sacked ben roethlisberger five times. now they have a different challenge as they gear up to face the eagles'

roger goodell appoints ted wells to independently investigate possible misconduct on the miami dolphinshree days after guard richie incognito's suspension he faces allegations of bullying against offensive tackle, jonathan martin. >> the type of culture that i championed since the day i walked through these doors has been one of honesty, respect and accountability to one another. >> an investigation is underway into several texts and voice mails. incognito allegedly left on martin's cell phone. espn has reported martin has checked himself into the hospital to be treated for emotional distress. >>> and a real-life snake on a plane. a passenger pulling the two-foot-long baby snake from luggage for feeding. flight attendants confiscated it. an investigation is underway into how the snake passed security. true as film, i guess, but not nearly as large. still freaking you out? >> how did they get it past security? >> it's pretty small. >>> the sochi olympics are making history. the olympic torch is taking a trip to space. the torch will not be lit while in the spacecraft, with its three-man

nfl commissioner roger goodell has appointed a top new york lawyer to lead the investigation. jonathan martin a former stanford offensive lineman man on the right has accused dolphins teammate richie incognito of leaving threats and using racial slurs in voicemails and text messages. some teammates say they find the accusations hard to believe. >> i think if you had asked jon martin a week before who his best friend on the team was he would have said richie incognito. >> they did a lot of stuff together. so if he had a problem with the way the guy was treating him, he had a funny way of showing it. >> martin left the team last week. incognito is suspended. >>> let's check the weather now. >> not bad. >> we have a little mix of sun and clouds out there right now. looks like high pressure finally weakening. so some changes in our weather coming our way as it looks like that ridge is moving to the east now but out the door we go looking at a nice afternoon. these temperatures going to cool down just a couple of degrees. you see some of the clouds passing by but really making for

commissioner roger goodell has appointed a special counsel. dolphins' head coach joe philbin says his team and coaches exemplify respect. >> jonathan martin came in here and worked hard every single day. we have men in the locker room that care about one another, that set a great example for one another. i told you, i believe in the guys in the locker room. the type of culture i've championed since the day i walked through these doors has been one of honesty, respect and accountability to one another. i consider those to be hallmarks of this program. and i believe our locker room reflects those beliefs. >> well, what remains is a complicated portrait of these two players. jonathan martin had reportedly been asked to pay for lavish dinners, which often happens to rookies, no longer a rookie, called big weirdo and was required to wear an embarrassing haircut. incognito had a reputation in the league of being a nasty player at times but seems to be a well liked player of the team. dolphin teammates have come down on one side saying the two player

>> no, i think roger goodell is in his 50s, i've known him for a while, gosh, more than 25 years.think he cares. >> no question about it. >> but it's also a pr issue. even if you didn't care, you have to care. >> i have to point out, though, because of the heightened attention and focus, there is a small, small percentage of the 1800-plus players who get in off-field activities like this. >> sure. sure. >> i think part of the reason so many people are interested in this, i think just what does it mean to be a man now? there's a tug of war over it. some people are afraid we'll be too thuggish, too brutal. others are afraid, and people are starting to criticize polaren for backing out. isn't this a false choice? for instance, don't you think it's a good thing that something like a martin rather than throwing a punch, goes to get help? what does this mean? >> and that's the interesting thing for me. i'm, i want to really see what jonathan martin has to say about this. because here's the thing about football. play in and play out, where these guys play, it's called the trenches, man.

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commissioner roger goodell appointed a special council to investigate alleged bullying on the dolphinshard incognito. he's been suspended without pay after allegations he bullied jonathan martin. the special council and n.f.l. says there's no timetable for the league's investigation. >>> d.c. mayor vincent gray weighing in over the redskins name. when asked about the recently passed d.c. council resolution calling on the skins to change their name, the mayor said changing the team's name would have to be the first step if the team ever wants to build a new stadium on the site of rfk. >> i do think there are increasingly large numbers of people who are speaking out on the name itself. the owner of the team who has the ultimate authority on that has indicated he will never change the name. i think it would be the way to end the controversy that is probably going to needlessly escalate in the future. >> reporter: you think the name should stand in the way if there's some talks, discussions going on about bringing the team back to d.c.? >> i said this before, bruce, that's federal land ove

think that it's the nuclear winter and there are billions of dollars on the line the commissioner roger goodell to his credit was e-mailing me saying please remember you can ask me anything you want i will as a reporter who brett farve just comes out so he's having memory lapses or you as a human course concerned about this mess of amount of concussions of the bed for example my kids are athletes. at baseball players they love all sports best of all everything i would whether they don't play football and do they play football. they're not going to don't think i don't think so they played pop warner a little i just didn't well and that's what the league understands it from you know again i'm not a spokesman for the league i am an employee of the league but i just know that everybody from the commissioner on down they are there wringing their hands over this thing to make sure that the game is as safe as possible and. the rule changes that come into play infuriate a lot of the fans because they think that the hits that they grew up on or that they fell in love the. with the game over no longer is

commissioner roger goodell named a top new york criminal threw carry out a full investigation, and theesult of that investigation will be made public. we don't know went it's going to end. so right now the entire team is under a microscope. this is not just about one player being suspended. the head coach, other coaches, line coaches, coming under a lot of scrutiny, and now the general manager as well. so this is a team halfway through the season, which is under a criminal investigation and under a microscope by the entire nation. >> steve, thank you. bat to patrick. patrick, you see this? and then tony dorsett comes out today and -- even if you don't like the cowboys, even if you're a cowboy hater, who didn't love tony dorsett. pushing 60 years old now and starting to lose his memory and he has fears hi may have a disease and there's a lot of pressure on the nfl now, and you just wonder if the nfl isn't in for some very, very difficult days ahead. >> yeah. i don't disagree with you. we have all the concussion injuries and the lawsuits from the concussions. there's no question. but the

the commissioner roger goodell appointed a special investigator to look into this.yed football. they love to self police in the locker room. at what point is it bullying and hazing of a rookie who came on made a lot of money, which is what they do in the nfl, at what point does it become a problem? >> i tell you where it is a problem, it sort of went by is the coaches ask him to toughen up martin. >> i don't know who the coaches were. that's one of the things you have to be careful about. when a coach said tough enthe guys up that leaves latitude do what you want to do. >> i was on record earlier in the week saying ritchie was wrong to do this. when a coach tells you to tough enup the kid you do what a coach tells you to. even if he takes it too far. that stuff goes on a long time. once it goes public you have to do something. if if he was told to do it i will tell you coaches heads are going to roll and ritchie incognito will be back in the starting lineup pretty darn soon. >> there is a culture of intimidation in gofootball. we have a collective bargaining agreeme

members of the minneapolis city counsel sent a letter to the team's owner and nfl commissioner roger goodellalling the nickname nt mascot racist. this groundswell comes as bob costas of nbc sports spot about the topic during halftime as he anchored a game when washington's team played last month. >> objections to names like braves, cheese, warriors and the like strike many of us as political correctness run amok. the state names on her for a than demean. they're pretty much the same as vikings, patriots, or even cowboys. seminoles, while potentially more problematic, can still be ok provided the symbols are appropriately respectful, which is where the cleveland with accommodation of their name and logo have sometimes run into trouble. a number of teams, mostly in the college ranks, have changed the names in response to objections. the stanford cardinal in the dartmouth big green were each once the indians. the st. john's redman have become the red storm. and the miami redskins hush that's right, redskins -- are now the red hawks. still the nfl franchise that represents the nation's capital h

the commissioner roger goodell has appointed a special investigator to look into this as part of a biggerme in the nfl. look, you've played football. they love to self-police in the locker rooms. at what point is it bullying and hazing of, say, a rookie who came on, made a lot of money, which is what they do in the nfl, and what point does it become a problem? >> i'll tell you where it's a problem. there's a new piece of information about this that sort of went by which is that the coaches ask him to toughen up martin. nobody seems to be able to put their names to it. that's one of the things you've do got to be careful about. when the coach says toughen the guy up, that leaves pretty much latitude to do what he wants to do. >> i was on record, i think, earlier in the week saying richie incognito is wrong doing this. when coach tells you to toughen up a kid, you do what the coach tells you to. even if he took it too far, this is on the dolphins and coaching staff right now. my assessment is a lot of that stuff goes on all the time. once it goes public, you have to do something. the spotli

nfl commissioner roger goodell appointed attorney ted wells.s experience in sports cases leading the investigation. former stanford offensive lineman jonathan martin accused dolphin teach mate incognito -- teammate richie incognito of using racial slurs, abusive emails and text messages. several teammates say it doesn't make sense. >> if you had asked john martyn a week before who his best friend on the team was he would have said richie incognito. >> they did a lot of stuff together. if he had a problem with the way that guy was treating him, he said a funny way of showing up. >> martin left the dolphins last week. incognito is suspended from the team indefinitely. >>> new details in the new jersey mall shooting. we are now hearing the 911 calls from panicked people trapped inside the mall as a gunman opened fire. >> i'm inside the store in the office by myself. i'm scared. i want to get out. >> 911 calls flooded in interest shoppers and store employees scared for their lives as the gunman fired several shots at the garden state plaza mall mon

roger goodell and washington team owner daniel snyder did not attend that meeting. >>> now, like thecomplicated for florida state's football team. its star quarterback, jameis winston, is being investigated as part of an ongoing sexual assault case which could sideline the likely heisman candidate as his team marches toward the national championship game. but perhaps surprisingly, when it comes to the team's name, things are simple. unlike their nfl counterparts in washington, the school and the indian tribe from which it gets its name, seminoles, rally around the seminole identity. the tune is unmistakable, as is the tomahawk chop from the sellout crowd, many wearing war paint and native american head dresses. a student portraying the seminole chief osceola rides out and thrusts a flaming spear into the ground. for decades, this has been tradition at florida state university's seminole home football games. the stereotyping of native americans with mascots and nicknames like indians and braves is in the spotlight again. this time, over the washington redskins. it may shock you, but h

think that it's the nuclear winter and there are billions of dollars on the line the commissioner roger goodell to his credit was e-mailing me saying please remember you can ask me anything you want i will as a reporter who brett farve just comes out so he's having memory lapses are you as a human course concerned about this mess of amount of concussions of the bed for example my kids are athletes right one thousand and thirteen baseball players they love all sports best of all everything i would whether they don't play football and do they play football. they're not going to i don't think you don't think so they played pop warner a little i just didn't well and that's what the league understands from you know again i'm not a spokesman for the league i am an employee of the league but i just know that everybody from the commissioner on down they are there wringing their hands over this thing to make sure that the game is as safe as possible. and the rule changes that come into play infuriate a lot of the fans because they think that the hits that they grew up on or that they fell in love the. w

roger goodell appointed new york attorney ted wells to investigate the situation. we learned that martin checked himself into a south florida hospital around the time he left the dolphins to get treated for, quote, emotional distress. espn is reporting that the dolphins organization arranged for martin's parents to travel to south florida and take their son home. that report also says that coach joe philbin visited martin in the hospital. speaking of dolphins coaches, "the sun sentinel" reports that alleged bully incognito may have acted at the request of unnamed dolphin coaches to toughen martin up. pro football talk is reporting when martin's agent called the dolphins nine days ago to tell them about martin's concerns, the team gm suggested that martin punch incognito out. then wednesday in the dolphins locker room many players came to incognito's defense instead of martin's. >> my point that i took from it that warned if i'm not mistaken, this is the same guy laughing about the voice mail at one point in time. that's first of all. second of all, if you go throug

nfl commissioner roger goodell says ted wells has already begun looking into the bullying accusations. richie incognito repeatedly sent his teammate martin text, voice, and e-mails that contained racial slurs. >> we will take all necessary measures to fix it, to ensure that this doesn't happen again. >> there were more allegations of racism against incognito. nfl hall of famer warren sapp said it happened to him during a game. >> so he's calling you the "n" word. >> yeah. he kicked me. one time i said, really? >> richie didn't use that type of language. >> ryan tannehill is the team's quarterback, the man he and incognito work side be side to depict. >> he gave him a hard time, messed with him, but he was the first one there to have his back in any situation. >> yesterday team officials would not address reports that dolphin officials told incognito to toughen up martin. after he left the team abruptly last week, he left for california to be with his family. his father spoke to" insider." >> he's a strong man. he's doing fine. >> but many around the league thought he mishandled the si

nfl commissioner roger goodell says ted wells has already begun looking into the bullying accusations. richie incognito repeatedly sent his teammate martin text, voice, and e-mails that contained racial slurs. >> we will take all necessary measures to fix it to ensure that this doesn't happen again. >> there were more allegations of racism against incognito. nfl hall of famer warren sapp said it happened to him during a game. >> so he's calling you the "n" word. >> yeah. he kicked me. one time i said really? >> richie didn't use that type of language. >> ryan tannehill is the team's quarterback, the man he and incognito work side be side to depict. >> he gave him a hard time, messed with him, but he was the first one there to have his back in any situation. >> yesterday team officials would not address reports that dolphin officials told incognito to toughen up martin. after he left the team abruptly last week he left for california to be with his family. his father spoke to" insider." >> he's a strong man. he's doing fine. >> but many around the league thought he mishandled the situa

the mission or roger goodell should use his power to do the right thing and change washington's team name. native people don't deserve to be treated as targets of a slur. we deserve to be treated as what we are, americans. >> paid for by the oneida indian nation of new york. >> you can make a comment on our facebook page at facebook.com/c- span. quite a conversation are going on there, including a chance to vote in the poll. finally, you can send us an e- mail at journal@c-span.org. host: michael in phoenix arizona. what do you think? caller: i've been a redskins fan all my life. why should they complain now? anybody's complaining about everything. they find everything to complain about. host: thank you, michael. this is william in southgate, michigan. william, what do you think? caller: i'm outside of detroit. i think it is a no brain or. we would have eight teams called the pale faces. it is more insensitivity on the part of white people towards minorities. thank you. host: thank you. brandon in love ernie r, texas. would you think about the redskins name? should be changed? caller

nfl commissioner roger goodell apoint ad special counsel to assist in the investigation.e teammates are speaking out in support of ritchie incognito. >> i know ritchie personally. i've been around this guy for four years. >> we have a system of basically that's just a big joke. it keeps things light in the room. everyone participates. no one is exempt. >> you've seen pictures of him playing around. they are always playing around. >> it's a big family. >> if you would ask john martin a week before who was his best friend on the team was he would say ritchie incognito. first guy to stand up for him on the field, ritchie was there. when they want to hang outside of football, who was together. ritchie and jonathan. >> if, if the coach asked him to toughen up john martin why would they ask a racist bully arch rival of person to do that. we never put him in harm's way. if we did we're sorry. we did not. the challenge of the leadership and character of this locker room is wrong. period. >> pretty strong. not him but the guy before that, ryan tannehill is the quarterback. he know