there were only a few nominations that made it through in the bush administration, people like roger gregory early on. like most of the people talking about confirmation, like september, that kind of thing. >> that is it on timing. we are up to 4. what kind of people will go on court? of lot of people want to balance out the conservative judges that previous republican presidents put on. what attributes do you see president obama looking for in selecting judges? >> i can speak from the transmission standpoint. he was looking first and foremost for capable, intellectual lawyers, jurists, that was first and foremost, clearly see. her qualifications. my sense of the extra factor, the distinguishing factor was that this was a person who understood, who had a sense of why they wanted to be a judge, not just a pristine piece of paper, not just reading briefs, but really understood and had some interest in the human interest of judging, who had some life experience dealing with people. i have the sense the president was not that interested in people, was more interested in people who actually had l