>> well, roger hertog is a donor to conservative causes. he's a financier. he made his money on wall street in new york over the years and has given a lot to intellectual efforts on the right, actually, not only on the right, but mostly on the right. he was very involved in the "new republic" for a time, which is not really on the right, and various other ventures. but he supports intellectual work and he is the donor who supports me at the ethics & public policy center, so my title there is the hertog fellow at the ethics & public policy center. he supports a lot of other very important intellectual work . >> why do you think people like roger hertog spend money on this? >> yes. you know it's a great and wonderful mystery in my world. i think they do it because they see it as a way to help their country, to advance a cause they believe in and you know that happens on the left and on the right. it happens in -- to advance causes that are not political at all, too, which of course, hertog does as well, medical research and other things. people who find themse