roger klaig is the next witness. president of the center for equal opportunity. he's held a number of senior positions in the justice department during the reagan and george h.w. bush administrations, including assistant deputy attorney general in the civil rights division and deputy assistant attorney general in the environment and natural resources division, attorney general in the office of legal policy. he was a graduate of yale university law school. thank you for being here, sir. please proceed. if you would, turn your microphone on. it's in that box in front of you there. >> thank you very much, senator durbin, for inviting me here today. i'm delighted to be here. let me just summarize briefly my written statement. the first point i make is that care has to be taken in defining the term "racial profiling." and in particular, i think that it's important to bear in mind that racial profiling is disparate treatment on the basis of race. good police activities that happen to have a disparate impact on the basis of race are not racial profiling. the second poin

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