he can't even figure out to roger mudd why he wants to run for president.was crippling to be a candidate running for president after his brothers. so i think he just felt overwhelmed by that. >> this country is not prepared to sound retreat. it is willing to make a stand, and so am i. >> even though kennedy goes onto fight a spirited battle, he never overcomes this stumble right out of the box. >> when ted arrives at the democratic national convention he's trailing so far behind carter that he's left with no choice but to concede. >> for me a few hours ago this campaign came to an end. for all those who chairs have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream shall never die. >> it is one of the greatest political speeches of all-time. if he had given 1% of that, 1% of that as an answer to roger mudd at the beginning of the campaign he might well have become the president of the united states. >> ted kennedy's presidential ambitions are over. his marriage to joan has ended. ted devotes the reaganears to working i

. >>> joining me now phil mudd, jennifer rogers. phil, let me begin with you. what kind of intel can even be revealed? is nunes even going to get what he wants in this meeting? >> i think he'll get part of what he wants but not everything. one of the reasons this meeting is significant is just department won half of the battle. apparently they're not going to have to turn over documents. the information that devin nunes has already done part of what he wanted to do which was reveal the name of the informant. we're not talking about that name. the information -- what was acquired from that informant which i think is fair for the oversight committee to know and how to move forward, how do we get out of this box where congress continues to tell the department of justice that they're not cooperating with the investigation. >> and those two meetings make any sense to you? >> not really. you can construct the scenario where they make -- where it makes sense. that's the first meeting is about clearing the air between people who obviously don't like each other and the