roger roger goodell he makes what is this thirty million dollars a year that's not pennies are there no limits on employee compensation for tax exempt groups when it comes to tax exempt groups the rule is that a tax exempt organization can pay no more than fair market compensation for services rendered but it's very hard to say what that number or that what that magic number should be considering the fact that there is nothing like the n.f.l. so obviously these organizations are very big they're very complex but at the same time and it's important to mention that the teams do pay taxes the n.f.l. entity the n.f.l. enterprises do pay taxes but the n.f.l. league does not so it really is because we have to explain to get those numbers or it's really up to the people that watch the sport meghan thank you so much it's kind of my opening and really interesting to know that the n.b.a. never part of this is thank you so much that was negative and now it's time for today's big deal. joining me now. is to talk turkey it's good to have you here this week and if you happen to be one of the thous

roger roger goodell he makes what is this thirty million dollars a year that's not pennies are there no limits on employee compensation for tax exempt groups when it comes to tax exempt groups the rule is that a tax exempt organization can pay no more than fair market compensation for services rendered but it's very hard to say what that number or that what that magic number should be considering the fact that there is nothing like the n.f.l. so obviously these organizations are very big they're very complex but at the same time and it's important to mention that the teams do pay taxes the n.f.l. entity the n.f.l. enterprises do pay taxes but the n.f.l. league does not so it really is because we have to explain to get those numbers or it's really up to the people that watch the sport meghan thank you so much it's kind of eye opening and really interesting to know that the n.b.a. never part of this is thank you so much that was negative and now it's time for today's big deal. joining me now. is to talk turkey couple gavel it's good to have you here this weekend if you happen to be one

roger goodell. couldn't he just see this as a great opportunity to make a lot of money, why not? >> everything that roger goodell does is legal. no one is accusing him of any impropriety. as michael kinsley famously said, "the scandal is what's legal." for roger goodell to call his organization a nonprofit is legal, congress said he could. and then to pay himself $30 million seems oily to me. the assumption in tax law is that nonprofit status should not be used as a subterfuge for personal enrichment. that is how the nfl uses it. and it is not just him, there are several other executives who are paid multimillion dollar salaries. >> as you said earlier, this whole area has to do with the coaches and the cult of coaches in the country. but coaches, you talk about money, you talk about the kind of money that the coach of alabama gets a year. how much does he make? >> nick saban, the coach of alabama, he has won the last two bcs titles. he makes $6 million a year. that is not bad money either. what that equates to is $66,000 per year per scholarship player under his supervision. that is pretty good money. >

roger goodell, yes. the father of football. i lived in kenmore, new york, not far from jamestown where roger goodell grew up. i did that in high school when i was 17. he was renowned as a man of conscious. one of the first members of congress to come out. he's -- >> who's roger. >> roger goodell is the commissioner of the nfl. >> what did that mean? >> people think being commissioner of the nfl means he's in charge of the league. he's not. he's an employee of the owners. he's highly paid well paid employee. >> $30 million a year? >> yes. >> that's how headquarters is tax exempt. it tays roger goodell $30 million a year. >> how did that happen? >> the 1966 piece of legislation that granted the antitrust waiver also a classic example of the lobbyist art. they snuck the professional football leagues to the description of a not for profit charitable enterprise. congress voted in that bill in 1966, they said the museums, philanthropies, art institutions, opera houses, and the professional football leagues are exempt from federal taxes. that the headquarters of the organization of the nfl at 45 park avenue in new y

roger roger goodell he makes what is this thirty million dollars a year that's not pennies are there no limits on employee compensation for tax exempt groups when it comes to tax exempt groups the rule is that a tax exempt organization can pay no more than fair market compensation for services rendered but it's very hard to say what that number or that what that magic number should be considering the fact that there is nothing like the n.f.l. so obviously these organizations are very big they're very complex but at the same time and it's important to mention that the teams do pay taxes the n.f.l. entity the n.f.l. enterprises do pay taxes but the n.f.l. league does not so it really is because we have to explain and get those numbers or it's really up to the people that watch the sport meghan thank you so much it's kind of my opening and really interesting to know that the n.b.a. never part of this is thank you so much that was negative and now it's time for today's big deal. joining me now. is to talk turkey couple gavel it's good to have you here this week and if you happen to be on

roger goodell. couldn't he just see this as a great opportunity to make a lot of money, why not? >> everything that rogeroodell does is legal. no one is accusing him of impropriety. as michael kinzer famously said, the scandal is what is legal? for roger goodell to call his call hissian -- organization a nonprofit is legal and it seems oily to me. the nonprofit status should not --used as a substantive huge subterfuge for personal enrichment. >> as you said earlier, this whole area has to do with the coaches and the cult of coaches. but coaches, you talk about money, you talk about the kind of money that the coach of alabama gets a year. how much does he may? -- make? >> he makes $16 million a year. that is not that money either. what that equates to is $66,000 per year per scholarship player under his supervision. that is pretty good money. >> how does that happen? does alabama make money for education? >> all of the big football alabama comerida, ohio state and so on, they all clear $30 million to $50 million a year on football. the number has gone up because television rights for college football are

as far as roger goodell the league will take into account the fact that smith voluntarily sought treatment. i asked rogeroodell about that. it doesn't mean he won't face any kind of suspension. i do expect him to face a fine, however. >> probably not miss some games if you were to guess. okay. they're on a bye week. they play, the 49ers, a week from sunday at the stick against the carolina panthers. will we see number 99 out there? >> i think when you look at if in these terms that aldon smith had the dui arrest on a friday, practiced a couple hours later. he played in that game sunday. to think that he wouldn't play after going through the treatment process and the next game, november 10th, against the carolina panthers, i think that's, you have to look at it in those terms. i fully expect smith to be back on the field and helping the 49ers become a much better defense in the second half of the sfe the season. >> thank you. ahmed, back to you. >> very interesting stuff there. >>> raiders defense was the key to their victory over the pittsburgh steelers on sunday. they sacked ben roethlisberger five time