cloris someone like roger sherman is said never said a stupid thing in his life. as a conservative moderating influence he said we're not have a bad. the people will never agree. or john rutledge who would later serve on the supreme court basically wins the war of independence he said no. i will work in south carolina at. the need to modify. that is what happens in philadelphia a. it was called a miracle. nobody was sure it would get out that it appeared it would die before the middle of summer 1787. is the large states against the small states. madison is from a large state. not the real issue. the real issue is what type of government? national or federal? today we have a federal government they did not call it that. sherman and rutledge said we wanted federal government that madison wanted a national government. there is a difference. federal was general only with general purposes in mind everything else left to the states that is what that generation argued for. of the national government to put all power with the central authority. made you start talking you

or just someone like roger sherman of connecticut, a man that thomas jefferson once said never said, i'm paraphrasing, never said a stupid thing in his life. this is also his constitution because again he was a conservative moderating influence. when he got to the philadelphia convention and he's a james madison's work, he again said no, we're not having that in these united states. it's not going to work. the people of connecticut will never agree to this thing. or john rutledge of south carolina, another very important founding father. john rutledge of course would later serve on the supreme court. he basically helped win the american war for independence and south carolina from the saddle of the gun. and he said no, this constitution that you've written, mr. madison, is not going to work in south carolina. we need to modify this thing. so that's what happened in philadelphia but, in fact, one historic call to the in philadelphia because no one was going to be sure if this is going to get out of philadelphia to begin with. there were so may different ideas and opinions floating aro

you have someone like roger sherman of connecticut, a man that thomas jefferson once said never said, and i'm paraphrasing, members of the stupid thing in his life. this was also his constitution because again, he was a conservative moderating influence. when he got to the philadelphia convention and all james madison, he said no, we are not having these in the united states, it's not going to work. people at connecticut will never agree to this. or john at south carolina, another very important founding father, john rutledge of course what leaders are on the supreme court. in south carolina from the satellite governor, so very important individual. and he set no the constitution that you've written mr. matheson is not going to work in south carolina. we need to modify this thing. so that's what happens in philadelphia. in fact one is called american and philadelphia because of only have we been sure that it's going to get all the philadelphia to begin with the were so many different ideas and opinions floating around in philadelphia that it appeared the constitution was going to die