in los angeles kim iverson she is the host of the kim iverson show and in nashville we cross to roger simon he's an award winning novelist and academy award nominated screenwriter who is now the senior political analyst for the big times all right crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate the oh ok let's go to los angeles they always go to the guess they got a earliest for this recording that you'd be sheeted can you know something i've noticed and that's happening over a number of years but equally well since the advent of the trump presidency we're of facts going in journalism they seem to end up operated or maybe i'm missing something here because we don't have fact based journalism i understand the difference between back based journalism an opinion journalism and both are acceptable but fact based journalism seems to been suspended let's put it that way go ahead yeah i mean it's really difficult to figure out where we can find the actual fact based journalism these days and you know it's really interesting to me that so much of the jo