i will also be at a show this spring , with roger smith. >> people know him from malcolm x., do the right thing. a phenomenal talent. he has a wonderful one man show. it was incredible. i just feel blessed to have the opportunity to work with him. that will be in april. people should look out for that. it will be amazing. >> what has impressed me is you are committed to the art and talent and not just the income. which you appreciate but , whether you're getting paid or not you will be there. that is a gift. >> at this stage, if i'm not getting paid, i will not be there. i always tell young people, i mentor young people and i used to acting coach people like laura hays when she was on martin when i was in l.a. for the young people now, i don't charge. all i want is for you to be successful. there is still stuff i do to give back. for love life, a lot of that is volunteer work. when it comes to the business itself, one of my first mentors told me, the word business is bigger than the word show. you better have your business together. >> i just saw the grammys not long ago and i saw the oth

bureaucracy, the defense department sidelining sidelining secretary of state rogers, sidelining george smith as head of the arms control disarmament agency. i mean, it's really quite extraordinary. the way that they approach. the salt process that is tabling whatever those elements of a deal would be, and then explaining it as so personally and i guess all of us as as students of the presidency, this is just a fascinating episode. so maybe can we can talk a little bit about that. and it's open to to anybody who wants to jump in first on nixon in the bureaucracy here. go for it. no, go ahead, ken. what you. no, no. you sure? okay. oh, to begin. i think nixon was not the first president to try to send realized control in the white house. i mean certainly in the past before him jfk had in the pursuit of a limited test ban treaty, had relied heavily on his own special emissary. a seasoned diplomat, avery harriman and, you know, others. i think lbj was collaborative. the kilpatrick committee was an interagency that developed options for how to deal with nonproliferation. but so it's not so that w