but roger stone does not work for the campaign. >> correct.e's not officially involved with them anymore. >> but that doesn't excuse' it. >> it's not like the delegates are swimming in dough and can show up with their private security. these are regular people. >> exactly, exactly. but it's been 40 years since we've seen anything like this. in terms of the fracturing of the party. and in 1976, when we had the situation, ronald reagan at the last minute walked into the convention and gave up his delegates for gerald ford to save him the embarrassment of having to go through the process that we may be about to go through now. but there's none of that on anyone's part whether donald trump or even ted cruz, talking about people revolting if the establishment doesn't let the nomination go to one of them. >> do not hold out for the magnanimous candidate. >>> we are hearing reports that the trump and cruz campaigns are considering a new strategy to win future voters. dana perino is here on that just ahead. >>> plus, have has tavis smiley gone from su

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and in fact, roger stone hanlt been a part of this campaign since early on. no affiliation with the campaign. absolutely. i think i would probably know if that were the case but no, not at all. mr. trump is very serious about this campaign. he's very serious about winning and locking up the nomination. he's very serious about going after hillary clinton in the general election so he can implement his policies to make america great again. there's all kinds of people out there who claim to have some connection to mr. trump or who want to stay relevant by saying so and i don't think this is the case here. yes, there are a lot of veterans who are out there that are now talking to the campaign and working for the campaign but that doesn't necessarily mean somebody like a roger stone is still in the mix. >> when he tells cnn he is still in contact regularly with donald trump, is he lying? >> you know, that's a question you'll have to ask mr. stone. he may send over messages but that doesn't mean mr. trump is talking on the phone with him every day. i think we can a

but roger stone, and we just saw it in one of the reports, roger stone is a key ally of donald trump. he made a pretty significant threat in a radio interview. we heard it earlier. that if there are delegates out there who come and supposed to vote for trump but they don't, he's going to release their room numbers. people are going to go after them. it was a pretty serious ominous threat, if you will. >> it's dirty but it's very trumpian. >> are you blaming trump for -- >> roger stone and donald trump have been allied for years and years and years. i know roger stone as long as i've known donald trump. and those intimidation tactics, i think, are powerful. but look, the delegate -- talk to anyone who's been a delegate. the job of courting delegates starts years before the convention. donald trump and his team just haven't put that work in. it's good that he has now hired an expert. i think it's a little too late. on those second ballots, i think that lack of organization is really going to hurt donald trump. and ted cruz's excellent organization is probably going to benefit him. >> ev

wrong, and he's wrong again, because roger stone doesn't work for the campaign either. stone is somebody that's known mr. trump for many years. he's not part of the campaign. he's not paid by the campaign. the fact that he wants to say what roger stone is doing, he's turning around saying anybody that does something that he doesn't like is now part of the trump campaign and they're acting thug like. >> but we're hearing from people in colorado, the kparm of tchaie party saying he's being harassed. delegates in indiana are concerned because of what trump supporters are saying to them. >> maybe the supporters are in colorado and they're upset because there wasn't a primary of caucus in colorado. they allow delegates to just give out the votes. >> if, if someone is harassing delegates, do you agree it's a bad thing. >> yes. nobody should be harassing anybody. >> if it is a bad thing, and these supporters of donald trump -- shouldn't donald trump speak up and say don't do this? >> right now mr. trump is concentrating on winning new york. winning the northeast. you know what

but the thing is, he is still friendly with roger stone. talks to stone regularly on the phone. >> rose: still gets advice within wants advice from him. he has a tight circle. stone was a big part of it for 30, 40 years. as much as they had a fight in the summer, they are still chatty. >> rose: steve winn, roger stone, people not part of the campaign per sigh have his ear. >> that's right. >> rose: who else. >> the most influential person right now in trump's circle based on my reportinger senator jeff sessions of alabama, someone not part of this new york world for trump but has been there to be a connector for trump on the conservative side. >> rose: loves his immigration policy. >> and sessions has been savvy putting his own people within the trump campaign. >> rose: here is what is interesting in your piece came out. he talked about the lone ranger. he was the lone ranger, he saw himself as that. what is that about. >> i prommed it. mr. trump, you seem like the lone ranger, i know because covering trump he grew up in the 40st and 50st an

. >> former trump advisor roger stone takes that up and much more. stay with us.re coming right back. >>> our next guest says the republican establishment is moving into high gear against donald trump. the media plan he says is an all out drive to rest potential victory from donald trump. and to take away delegates in wisconsin. joining us tonight former trump campaign advisor roger stone that worked for nixon, regan, author of so many books. we'll put them up on the lower third to save time. good to have you with us. >> thanks, lou. >> i want to share with the audience a portion of an interview that sean hannity did with donald trump and this is donald trump revealing that he was contacted by no one in law enforcement in the deal. roll that if we can. >> i think this was very unjust, nobody called h ed me, nobody interviewed me. i wasn't interviewed by the police. they are in a town where i have a very big investment. are these democrats? are these republicans? >> roger, are those democrats or republicans doing the policing and prosecuting in palm beach county. >

in cleveland. >> roger stone is an effective operator. in the 2000 election, he brought people to florida and demonstrated outside radio stations to gin up support for george w. bush. he's a premium organizer. he is a partner and longtime friend of paul manafort. these are serious people who play to win. this is very important for trump. it's not something that's going to be reported. but trust me, they could make the difference for donald. >> you know hillary clinton very well. if it should turn out to be donald trump versus hillary clinton, we talked about statistics and the numbers in new york and pennsylvania. but in a general election, does this kind of ground team now with these men that you just mentioned for donald trump make it tougher for hillary clinton? john is saying no. what do you think? >> i'll say yes, and i'll tell you why. donald trump's numbers have gotten very, very bad for the reasons pat suggested. if he's going to be a credible general election candidate, should he get the nomination, he's going to need to be very

it's not funny when roger stone, who organized and put together trump's political campaign, is tellingelegates in cleveland, we're going to make public your hotel room so people can come and threaten and intimidate you if you dare vote against donald trump. that is -- you know what that is behaving like? that's behaving like democrats in 1968 in chicago, and we're not democrats. we're not interested in behaving like union thugs. and donald trump needs to learn that. >> corey lewandowski, we just found out over an hour ago, corey lewandowski, donald trump's campaign manager, is not going to be charged for his run-in in florida with a reporter from brooitbart. do you think that is the right call? you said the incident was consistent with a pattern from the trump campaign. >> law enforcement there made a determination about whether to proceed. i'm not going to second-guess their judgment. that's the way the system works. law enforcement determines whether a crime should be prosecuted. what i'm focused on is earning the votes to win the nomination and win the general. and one of the proble

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. >> howard, your view about ryan, because i'm thinking that roger stone, you don't have to like the guy to know he's smart. and roger stone suggested -- >> that's right. >> it's either going to be trump on the first ballot or ryan on the fourth, and the last several days since he said that, i'm beginning to see the truth of that because i don't think this gossip involving all this chaos of trump and cruz and kasich is adding up to any clarity. your thinking? >> in talking to people across the spectrum, including our mutual buddy roger stone, my sense of it is that how we use the term zombie candidate the other day, you like that terminology about trump. well, paul ryan is running a zen campaign. what i mean by that is absolute stillness leads to, in this case, not enlightenment but the nomination. i think he is running by not running. people make fun of me for saying that because how do you prove it? i think that interview with the newspaper in israel shows that a prediction is also a wish. he didn't have to go so far as to say a loss for trump in wisconsin would mean an open conven

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he talked about roger stone. talking not about violence which he has made clear to me. he was talking about nonviole nonviolently going to people's rooms and having discussions. i can tell you i attended the 1976 reagan ford convention in kansas city. they were doing that then to delegates. they went to the delegates and got their hotel room and went to say can't we talk about this? that's the deal. >> it's such a charged climate right now. it's so different today than what it was back then. >> you know, sure, i agree, but you -- just because people are elected doesn't mean they shouldn't be talking to people. they have constituents. they have whether their fellow republicans from another state or trump supporters, cruz supporters, anything else, they should be talking to people. emphatically, violence is out of the question. >> juddson, i would suspect you have another view. >> i have a completely different view. this is threats. this is third world violence. this is the kind of stuff you get from the mafia. thi

paul was a business partner with roger stone, and roger stone just threatened delegates attending the convention in cleveland saying he would publicize delegates' hotel rooms and hotel room numbers if they felt -- if the trump campaign felt like they were part of stealing delegates from donald trump. now, he said that after he called on trump supporters to come to cleveland and somehow protest the process if donald trump were denied the nomination. i think that is dangerous. we are a free society in america. we're not a third world country. we don't threaten violence against delegates and i think rance priebus and rnc should ban roger stone from the convention because we cannot tolerate threats and threat office violence in the process. donald trump should repudiate his remarks. >> talk about your ex-boss, ted cruz, talk about his strategy in new york. is his strategy as simple as stopping trump from getting 50% in a week in a half? >> yeah, what ted cruz needs to do is deny donald trump as many delegates as they can make sure he doesn't have 1,237 if he gets to cleveland, there's a h

it's not funny when roger stone, who organized and put together trump's political campaign, is telling delegates in cleveland, we're going to make public your hotel room so people can come and threaten and intimidate you if you dare vote against donald trump. that is -- you know what that is behaving like? that's behaving like democrats in 1968 in chicago, and we're not democrats. we're not interested in behaving like union thugs. and donald trump needs to learn that. >> corey lewandowski, we just found out, donald trump's campaign manager, is not going to be charged for his run-in in florida with a reporter from breitbart. that is the right call? you said the incident was consistent with a pattern from the trump campaign. >> law enforcement there made a determination about whether to proceed. i'm not going to second guess their judgment. that's the way the system works. law enforcement determines whether a crime should be prosecuted. what i'm focused on is earning the votes to win the nomination and win the general. and one of the problems with the circus that comes from my opponent i

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the thing is, he's still friendly with roger stone. wants advice from him. he has a tight circle. one has been a part of it for 30 years, and they are still chatting. partie: people who are not of the campaign per se, but have his ear. who else? bob: the most influential person right now, senator jeff sessions of alabama. he is not part of the new york world, but he has been there to be a connector for trump. he has been savvy putting his own people with any trump campaign. he talked about the lone ranger, that he was the lone ranger he saw himself as that. what is that about? bob: i prompted it. mr. trump, you seem like the lone ranger he grew up in the 1940's and the 1950's. i thought maybe they'll be something he picked up on, and he immediately did. he said, i understand life, i am the lone ranger. he likes to be the loner. charlie: has been a loner all his life? bob: he has been social all his life but -- people in business committees no-trump, but he is not part of the club. he is a celebrity and he is famous, but he considers himself to be someone who is outside of the mains

>> well, look, roger stone and others have made a bunch of very vaguely veiled threats about that sort of thing. i think that's par for the course for the trump team and the trump organization. you've got corey who will beat a women. you have donald trump who encourages this from the podium. i don't get all hyped up about them making threats like this. when roger stone says we're going to find their hotel rooms and send protesters to threaten people, that's going to be the point where i hope they have lawyers and health insurance wired up before they do that. >> gestapo tactics. a reference to mayor in '68. thank you both. >> all right. >>> still to come, speaker paul ryan insists he has no intention of becoming the republican nominee so why is he building a national operation to counter trump's message. look at ryan's plan for cleveland. >>> as a contested convention becomes more of a reality. is it possible democrats might need to start planning for one as well? jane sanders will join me. we'll be back in two minutes with that interview. do not go anywhere. we needed 30 new hires for

roger stone does not work with the campaign. there's a controversy -- >> he -- >> kellyanne, i got to finish. there's controversy over whether he was fired on the campaign or quit. he left on not good terms. >> he's involved, i promise. >> the only personal who has been accused of dirty tactics was governor kasich accusing cruz in engaging in double -- >> so it's okay that people are being threatened. >> there are accusations by both candidates that ted cruz -- >> i'm sorry, you're a very nice be person, but are you going to look the viewers in the eyes and tell them it's a false report that they say they will publish where the hotel is. >> we saw it on video so we can't say it's false but -- >> i'd like to see donald trump stand up and say cut the crap. >> i would like to see ted cruz stand up against the people in michigan -- >> there's a couple of things hurting donald trump. the first thing was the calendar. there were two weeks before wisconsin, he looked like he was going to lose all the way and he loses and then two weeks

have characters like roger stone there is going to be concerned about the senate and making sure the house margin doesn't get to type. david: you've heard donald trump talk about the illegitimacy of the process. that he is being treated. this nomination is being stolen. how do his supporters not walk away after that, if they are a steady dose of that and what promises to be an acrimonious run-up to the convention? alex b.: many are most certainly would. a lot of republicans have made their peace with ted cruz because he is a predictable candidate who they can communicate with. there is a scenario where nominating ted cruz is worse because the donald trump vote stays home and the moderate or center-right republicans and suburban voters who would have deserted donald trump also desert ted cruz. his floor may be lower. david: what did everyone miss about this? what did everyone miss about -- i was dismissive. i thought he would be gone by winter. most people felt the same way. what went wrong in terms of the evaluation of donald trump? alex b.: there still is this inside the bubble, out

roger stone giving out names for a second. let's forget about the most extreme and horrifying examples of that kind of threat of violence. i remember talking to democratic members of congress so spooked by the town halls that just happened after the summer when obamacare was on the table, they were worried about that. if you some version of that, that's going to influence the way delegates act. >> i think that's spot on. i've spoken to delegates and those elected officials. if you're a state senator or representative, you have a primary threat looming over you and there could influence your decision. >> thank you both for being here. >> just ahead, this is a live picture of washington square park in new york city where bernie sanders is holding a massive rally tonight. they're turning people away. the press pin is already closed. you can't get in there after a day that began with the candidate. we'll talk about the new york strategy with campaign manager jeff weaver live from that rally in two minutes. going to clean better th

to be honest i haven't kept up with what roger stone's been saying. so that's not something i follow as closely. but i know that cleveland is going to be a battle. when you look at what ted cruz is doing and trying to ignore the will of the voters in states like my own, arizona and try to steal the delegates we have to get better at somehow blunting what ted cruz is doing because he's out there lying. lying ted is doing what he's doing on tv with the delegates. >> you don't do it but threatening violence. >> thanks both of you for being with me this morning. i appreciate it. all right. ted cruz will sit down with erin burnett tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. >>> up next. new information on the man in the hat. take a close look at this video. he's a suspected brussels bomber. could these new pictures help track him down? they sato make a sunscreenle... you can apply to wet skin. a wrinkle cream that works in one week. and a shampoo that washes away the residue hair care products can leave behind. but we did it. no wonder dermatologists r

rogerrer stone said he would -- roger stone said he would help angry supporters find delegates at the convention. >>> we'll expose the hotel numbers of the delegates who are directly involved in the steal. >> reporter: ted cruz said he was facing threats against the supporters in colorado. while the battle intensifies with some he is making nice with others. >>> we metaphor -- we met for an hour and had a problem to clear the air. >>> lana zack washington. >>> today is the first full day on the job for the darby police chief. regina price is the first african-american female police chief in delaware county. the 30 year veteran and mother of three wants to get a feel for the department. she wants to improve community police relations. >>> it's tough being in law enforcement given what's happening in law enforce. there's a lot of relationship relationships that have to be repaired, mainly law enforcement and the community and i think i have a good handle on that, i think it will work well. >>> price came from florida where she was a police major. >>> arrangements are set to celebrate th

roger stone is basically threatening people. there's a process in place.delegates. there's no republican that can take the nomination from someone who hand it to somebody. you have to get the delegates. you have to earn the delegates. donald trump so far hasn't even gotten 50% of the delegates. at this point in time, mitt romney was attracting 70% of republican support in 2012. donald trump has completely flat lined. and so to suggest that the will of the people is for donald trump, the majority of republicans aren't even backing this guy. so i think the process needs to take place. it will occur at the convention. it will be a fair process. nobody is stealing anything. but there will be a fair process, and i expect that donald trump will not get 1,237 delegates on the first ballot and he'll do worse after that. >> we're not talking about cruz at all which i find strange. there's this focus in the conversation about -- >> inside this party there's been the stop trump movement. that's why. >> i totally understand that. >> no stop cruz movement inside of the

in the last few weeks, donald's team, roger stone, his chief political adviser, was threatening to outf delegates who dared to cross trump, so they could be intimidated. they're acting like union boss thugs. >> with me to discuss just about every cnn commentator and -- panelist, including bakari sulers, who supports secretary clinton, bill press, who supports bernie sanders, charles blow, "new york times" op-ed columnist. jeffrey lord, a donald trump supporter, and finally, margaret hoover, of two gop presidential campaigns. goodness, gracious. and we're done. now the debate starts. jeff, i want to start with you about this intimidation factor. colorado's gop chairman, and delegates in indiana, say they are receiving threats for not supporting donald trump. indiana has even decided to keep its delegates secret now. it's not clear if the threats are coming from the trump supporters, but ted cruz certainly thinks they are. how do you respond to that? >> first of all, the indiana -- the indiana trump chairman has rejected this flat out. as do i. as any sane person. there's no place for vi

then roger stone was not -- no longer part of the campaign. overall, i don't think we're seeing a shake-up, but we're seeing, i think them play catchup to ted cruz in the delegate. if they get to 1,237, they've got it. but if they don't get to 1,237, they've got to be in a better position going into cleveland because who has the momentum and who is the likely nominee? ted cruz. >> so to kellyanne's point, get your ground game together, right? so what happened? even now with them going back to get these delegates, the cruz campaign, you know, this guru paul manafort that is suppose to be so -- >> establishment. >> what's going on? >> they're looking where they can win their votes. >> does the cruz campaign just have a better ground game than the trump campaign? >> it's not just that they have a better ground game, which they do. they also have had by the way the best data team, and the best field team. they have the most sophisticated republican national apparatus than we have seen since obama came on the scene in 2008. that said, the reason he

what's your reaction to roger stone for trump supporters to come to cleveland.nd and attack the oh telhotels that the repub delegates are in. >> i've known roger. it's in keeping with his past pattern and practices. but really i think the chairman is right and that threatening delegates is probably over the line and i'm not sure why it's helpful to his candidate. >> and you see donald trump cancelling his trip to the colorado where they need delegates. they're staying in new york where they are worried apparently about how strongly they're going to show in new york. they seem like a campaign that's been unable to do both, unable to deal with the voters and campaign for voters the way ted cruz does and work the delegate side of this. >> he's been very successful at winning voters and winning states. he does have more votes than any other candidate and i think they now realize with the naming of paul matta fort this is a two step process where delegate selection is an important part. so stiechometimes in a campaign you need the planning time to execute down the ro

does that plan from roger stone of the trump campaign's approval? >> i think that a lot of tertiary people throughout this election cycle make statements. no, that's not from the campaign. if anyone is having violence, it's the protesters who stand outside who harass, intimidate and cause physical harm to our supporters, and our focus is winning the votes in the states coming up and getting enough delegates to where a contested convention won't be the problem. >> chad, let me ask you, how will it be able -- how can ted cruz unite the republican party if he goes into the convention and neither he nor donald trump has the magic number of dealts, 1,237, and somehow even though trump has more, theoretically, cruz ends up with the nomination. how are you going to be able to get all those trump supporters who feel like the nomination was stolen? >> jake, he's doing it, he's uniting the party already. five of the former contestants -- candidates for president have all come and joined him, whether it's carly fiorina, rick perry, lindsey graham, scott walker

in the last few weeks, donald's team, roger stone, his chief political advisor, was threatening to outs of delegates who dared to cross trump so they could be intimidated. they're acting like union boss thugs. >> is that a little much or do you kind of agree with it? i'm going with you. >> okay. i don't think that's overstating. i think that the trump campaign from donald down has acted at times like goons. i've been on the receiving end of some of that, but taking myself out, i think any objective look at some of their behavior, you would have to classify as intimidating, threatening, hostile. yeah, i think it's fair. >> roger stone is an ally of donald trump but he's not a member of the campaign, amanda. certainly ted cruz has some allies that have had questionable things. >> but let's look at what his new convention manager, paul manafort, was saying in his debut as the new trump staffer he went out and promptly accused of cruz campaign of engaging in gestapo-like tactics. for one republican to accuse another republican of doing something as loathsome as what was conducted to the je

you know, you look at the story, the one person it quoted was roger stone, a man who's been donald's chief political adviser. >> they severed relations officially. >> no, they haven't. if you look at what roger stone is doing every day, he planned donald's political campaign, he organized it, he brought it together and today roger -- >> he left it in oc day roger i attack dog for the trump campaign. roger spends every day attacking me, spreading attacks. it's what he did for richard nixon 40 years ago. he is a -- his entire business has been dirty tricks, has been lies, has been personal smears and the ceo of the "national enquirer," a guy named david pecker, which i have to say is a name right out of "charles dickens" -- >> oh, boy. >> -- is close friends with donald trump. they are close friends and, indeed, donald trump suggested that david pecker, the head of the "national enquirer" should be the new editor of "time" magazine. how ludicrous is that? the "national enquirer" has endorsed donald trump so the "enquirer" is donald's pet attack machine, so what it does is spreads rumor

and roger stone said yes. and then recommended paul manafort to come in and help with this effort.e certainly seeing donald trump in the last few weeks, you know, that was just a few weeks ago, becoming aware of this convention problem or at least really to a point where he needed to act upon it. that's what we're seeing him do now. he's acting on it and he's trying to craft this delegate-focused strategy which involves targeting areas more precisely. and he canceled a trip to california to instead double down on his efforts here to come as close as he possibly can to winning the 95 delegates here in new york. >> uh-huh. well, you know, chris, isn't it extraordinary that, you know, his camp is not trying to, i guess, help protect the image, protect the public from getting to know that donald trump doesn't seem to be that knowledgeable about the process, that that is becoming a very overt message and he's showing his vulnerabilities? so that seems very strange that a camp would allow that to happen. are they looking at this in some way benefitting donald trump? >> well, i think it c

let me play something your former business partd ner roger stone said, get you to react to it. >> we're going to have protests, demonstrations. we will disclose the hotels and the room numbers of those delegates who are directly involved in the steal. >> appropriate rhetoric? >> i'm not giving him my hotel room. >> okay. is that -- >> roger is not an official part of the campaign. >> did he bring you in? >> no. in fact not at all. i came in a totally different way. i've known trump for 30 years. when somebody started talkin about the need to bring in additional people to deal with this process, frien not at all from the political realm even, he listened and then reached out. >> what is fair game to win a delegate? is threatening a fair game? >> it's not my style. it's not donald trump's style. but it has ted cruz's style. and that's going to wear thin very fast. >> you think he's threatening delegates? >> well, he's threatening -- you go to his county conventions and you see the gastapo tactics. >> that's a strong word. >> we're filing several protests becae the reality is they are not

if you look at what roger stone is doing every day, he plans donald's political campaign.zed it, brought it together. >> and he left it in october. >> but every day, roger is the attack dog for the trump campaign. roger spends every day attacking me, spreading attacks. it's what he did for richard nixon 40 years ago. his entire business has been dirty tricks, has been lies, has been personal smears. and the ceo of the national enquirer, a guy named david picker, which is a name right out of charles dickens, is close friends with donald trump. they are close friinds. and indeed, donald trump suggested that david pecker, the red of the national enquirer, should be the new leader of "time" magazine. the national enquirer has endorssd donald trump. so enquirer is donald's pet attack machine. what it does is spreads rumors and lies attacking every other candidate and it praises donald. it's just garbage. people are tired. those reports, they're not a little bit true, not slightly true. they're utter and complete made-up lies. >> not going to be any e-mails or texts or videos su