>> both, it's progress for mueller because he's put roger stone in his place and bad news for roger stone because in a way this is like baseball. the third strike and he's off to the slammer. >> before i get to shelby on the legal side, one more piece for you, which was very interesting, we always report every side of the case but sometimes people don't like that and i explain it's not about what you like. if you want to understand where a court case is going, you have to look at both sides. but tonight what i'm about to read sounds like something from mueller but it's the roger stone side. that what he did was, quote, indefensible. that's not the prosecutor's demanding the gag order. that was the best quote/unquote defense his folks could come up with. i want viewers to understand what went down. judge, why won't this happen in the future? fair question if this is a problem. stone's own lawyer, sometimes a person learns a lesson, especially when a person is unrestrained in his speaking. it's indefensible. i agree. eblgs kuz m excuse me, i'm going to repeat that. it's indefensible. and th

are learning prosecutors are saying for the first time today that they have direct evidence of roger stone communicating with wikileaks. this is according to a court filing from special counsel prosecutors. the prosecutors have to show the case against basically how the case of the russians hacking the dnc and the stone case are related. the way they did that is they executed multiple search warrants that showed up this information on several accounts that showed that roger stone was, in fact, in touch with russian intelligence and wikileaks. it's unclear what the communications entailed. previously, prosecutors had said he was seeking to reach julien assuage through intermediaries to find out what the russians had and whether it would help the trump campaign. this certainly raises a lot of questions, because in the roger stone indictment, it alluded to the fact he was trying to get in touch with wikileaks, not that there was direct evidence. he was charged with lying, not conspiracy. this raises a lot of questions about what those communications were about, why this is just being revealed

judge jackson told roger stone and his lawyers, "these were, let there be no mistake, deliberate choicesind any of the evolving and couldn't draktry explanations credible. mr. stone could not even keep his story straight on the stand." so roger stone can no longer speak publicly about the case or the participants in the case. judge jackson concluded, "i have serious doubts about whether you've learned any lesson at all." after a break, mimi rocah and ron klein will join us with their reaction to what happened in court today including whether prosecutors and the judge are choosing to let roger stone get away with a little bit of perjury about the crosshairs that he pretended are not crosshairs and some other stuff. to be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing it's best to make you everybody else... ♪ ♪ means to fight the hardest battle, which any human being can fight and never stop. does this sound dismal? it isn't. ♪ ♪ it's the most wonderful life on earth. ♪ ♪ with expedia, i saved when i added a hotel to our flight. so even when she grows up, she'll never outgrow the memory of

are in "the situation room." >> this is cnn breaking news. >>> the federal judge presiding over roger stone's case has barred the longtime trump advice and confidante from contacting potential witnesses and says she's considering a gag order. she also warns stone, who has given multiple interviews since his indictment last week, about treating this phase of the case, i'm quoting her, like a book tour. we will talk about it with a congressman of the intelligence committee. that's the committee to which stone is accused of lying. former u.s. attorney preet bharara and our correspondents are standing by. first, the latest. sara murray is joining us. what was this warning to stone from the judge? >> roger stone has been charged with obstruction, making false statements and with witness tampering. when he was in court today, the judge wanted to make it very clear to roger stone he was to have no contact with any potential witnesses or potential victims that might be engaged in this case. she explained that includes phone calls. it also means e-mails, text messages, it means instagram, anything enc

roger stone.let him talk, he's going to get in trouble. i don't think a cheetah changes its stripes. facing potential incarceration before your trial may be the thing that scares roger stone into not being roger stone. he didn't do the nixon victory sign walking out of the courtroom. that could be -- maybe that speech, maybe it's not. it's right on the line. he didn't do that. maybe this is the thing that keeps him on the straight and narrow. to laura's point, for lying to the justice department. >> he wanted to raise money. now other people will have to do it for him. >> for him. >> this is not a show. they're used to years of this being a big public spectacle and a show. the judge reminded him this is real life acres courtroom and no longer a show. >> very serious, indeed. >> an important programming note to our viewers. join me monday when i moderate our presidential town hall with bernie sanders, live from here in washington monday night 8:00 p.m. only here on cnn. >>> coming up, actor jussie

judge jackson told roger stone and his lawyers, "these were, let there be no mistake, deliberate choices find any of the evolving and couldn't draktry explanations credible. mr. stone could not even keep his story straight on the stand." so roger stone can no longer speak publicly about the case or the participants in the case. judge jackson concluded, "i have serious doubts about whether you've learned any lesson at all." after a break, mimi rocah and ron klein will join us with their reaction to what happened in court today including whether prosecutors and the judge are choosing to let roger stone get away with a little bit of perjury about the crosshairs that he pretended are not crosshairs and some other stuff. . uh-oh! guess what day it is? guess what day it is! huh...anybody? julie! hey...guess what day it is? ah come on, i know you can hear me. mike mike mike mike mike... what day is it mike? ha ha ha ha! leslie, guess what today is? it's hump day. whoot whoot! ronny, how happy are folks who save hundred of dollars switching to geico? i'd say happier than a camel on wednesday. hu

of roger stone.n he lives for public attention. he has a daily show on info wars, the alex jones conspiracy theory web site. i suppose he could continue that show as long as he doesn't talk about his own case. you know, the judge is serious about this. the judge really wants this case to be tried in the courtroom. i think frankly it's a controversial ruling. stone has gotten a lot of negative p negative publicity. he has a first amendment right to defend himself but the judge jackson thought look, let's try to shut the dois down as much a possible i'm not sure it would have been seen the same way. >> she was very limited at this. considering if you compare it to what she did in the manafort case and basically shut everything down she will be able to probably do some of these things. he went bo able won't be able t press conferences anymore. he won't be able to attack the prosecutors and say things that could be viewed as trying to effect jury selection but he can speak, you know, he could use his fir

a federal judge banning roger stone from speaking publically about his case. warning him, if he violates the order, it will land him in jail. stone took the stand to tell the judge he was sorry for posting what could be considered threatening images of her to his instagram monday. he claimed the image, which showed the judge with crosshairs over her shoulder, was a stupid lapse of judgment and insisted the crosshairs were misinterpreted. she said is rang hollow, adding, there's nothing ambiguous about crosshairs. the judge put a gag order on stone. today, she banned him about talking public by in any venue, warning, there will not be a third chance. she banned others from speaking on his behalf. the judge ordered stone to make the trek and appear in court after his post, which included a caption that called robert mueller a deep state hit man and claimed stone's case was a show trial. stone implied that jackson was biased because she was an owe be a obama appointee. stone filed a formal apology. i had no intention of disrespecting the court and apologize to the

roger stone's newfound celebrity status is a dream come true for roger stone. every head in the room swiveled when he walked in. that is according to the reliable source, gossip column in the "washington post" today. the heads were swiveling to see the man who is now living his dream. the dream of making heads swivel. according to the reliable source, "just before noon tuesday trump's long-time friend and political adviser roger stone, fresh from pleading not guilty to charges relating to the russia investigation, showed up to the palm, a veteran steakhouse, with an entourage of lawyers, security guards and a videographer. every head in the room swiveled when he walked in, said a source in the palm's dining room. not long after stone showed up another political operator walked into the famous dining room, lanny davis, michael cohen's former lawyer and current adviser. davis arrived after stone and was surprised to be in the same room as the trump pal. the two men, the trump loyalist and the lawyer who represented the guy who flipped on the president, were seate

let's begin with breaking news roger stone faces mull pistol charges. the federal judge overseeing the case had a tough warning for stone. let's bring in our white house correspondent. what was the warning to stone from this? >> the judge will be overseeing. roger stone has been on something of a publicity tour doing a lot of public interviews and reaching out to friends and family who are there to support him. more than a dozen of roger stone's friends have come in for interviews as part of this investigation with the robert mueller investigation. one of the warnings that the judge gave to roger stone was to make sure he would avoid any da contact with people who might be called as witnesses in this case. that includes no e-mails, text messages, and trying to contact people who might become witnesses in this trial. he says yes, your honor. wolf, you know this judge has a history of being very stern with people in her courtroom. roger stone's publicity tour, his media interviews was certainly something she was going to take notice of. >> yeah. she is a v

he's just indicted roger stone. roger stone could someday be a cooperative witness.ueller would be crazy to ever put roger stone on a witness stand because the man is a walking credibility gap. but stone could give him an amazing road map to what the president told him, what he said to assange, what he said to corsi, lay it all out and give mueller the ability to then go and develop the further evidence, classic technique, why end when the roger stone story isn't done. we had that supreme court case over in d.c. circuit case over the last several months litigating mueller trying to get evidence from a state-owned foreign corporation. he hasn't gotten that evidence yet. you got the corsi piece of litigation out there, you've got miller who was sued doing it. there's a lot of loose ends here. why now? the only reason is, rod rosenstein is about to resign. but -- and rosenstein has been the gatekeeper and the protector of the mueller investigation, but bob bar is now in the attorney general seat and barr is a principled man, a very serious mainstream lawyer and he's als

put roger stone in context. think of all of the dozens of people in this investigation including people in the campaign, in the white house. i want to know from texts, from e-mails, from financial transactions, who talked to whom. i want to put all those 20 people on sort of a time line and i want to take stone's data and bounce it against all the other data i've acquired over 2 1/2 years. in modern life if you want tyke all that stuff, text, phone, financial data, that's going to take a long time, don. >> susan, so could all of this evidence mean more charges for either stone or others who haven't been charged yet? >> well, i keep coming back to the fact that the indictment was written to really not show mueller's hand when it came to a lot of this evidence that they had already acquired. and so does that mean because they're holding out the possibility of further charges, some of the language around who his contacts were in the campaign, what was the nature of it, very unclear. and also importantly enough, is

>> roger stone has played the caricature of roger stone -- >> let's point out that's roger stone walking out of court right now with his team. >> he has played this character for his entire career. he has always pushed the line but today he went over that line and got smacked down by the judge. >> roger stone is referenced by mueller during the indictment. after the july 22nd release of stolen dnc e-mails by organization one, wikileaks, senior trump campaign official was directed to contact stone about any additional releases wikileaks had regarding the clinton campaign. mueller claims to have direct contact to stone. it's not just a freak show. there is a significance in terms of the mueller investigation here. >> right. not only that he lied but he could have had means to invasion of the u.s. through cyber security. that's deadly serious stuff. roger could go to jail for a very long time. i think david is right, he somehow seems to not understand the gravity of this situation. >> at the end of the day you're going to find out there's no big smoking gun there between roger stone and the

legally say is unlikely to happen. >> don't forget the tweet from president trump that encouraged roger stone -- called prodger stone -- praised him for having guts saying he would never testify against the president. >> we're going to be watching it closely. it matters a lot. what you guys have both said that is significant is you have people in power in the white house and now roger stone not saying we'll tell the truth because it's good for us, but, rather, we're going to criticize law enforcement and avoid testifying adds if th testifying as if that is a good thing. if you don't have anything to hide, that never makes sense. thanks to each of you. >>> coming up, cory booker jumps into the race for president. we're going to look at this rollout. it's all happening right now and what it means for a race that keeps getting more candidates. >>> and a yearbook controversy now vounlding the democratic governor of virginia, a person in blackface, another in a kkk robe. you're looking at that new photo. we're going to explain. >>> also, democrats making the first move towards demanding trump's ta

and people who know roger stone know roger stone. he's trying to raise money for his legal defense and one way to do it is to stir the pot. one way to stir the pot is to stir the pot against the judge and say the fix is in against me. #pot stirred. thank you gloria, ali. >>> mark harris, embattled republican leading in that ninth congressional district race there has made a stunning statement. hold a new election, he says. >> thank you the testimony i've listened to the past three days it's become clear to me that the public's confidence in the ninth seat general election has been undermined to an extent that a new election is warranted. >> let's go straight to diane gallagher that. is stunning to hear from the republican, that he says let's just do it again. >> quite the opposite of everything he has been saying for three months now, brooke. in fact, people started running out of the room. there were gasps. they could not believe this is what happened. we knew something was afoot. that's because just before we broke for lunch, his c

roger stone was back in court today. special counsel said they're looking to begin stone's trial eight months from now. the judge thought july or august seemed more appropriate. she also warned stone not to treat the criminal case against him like a book tour and adding she was considering issuing a gag order. he did not comment publicly but continues his weird nixon thing he'd literally been doing since he was a teenager, as seen in this high school yearbook exclusively obtained by "all in." and came on the heels of the access hollywood tape being made public. it is highly suspicious that just half an hour after the worst bombshell moment in recent memory was published, wikileaks just happened to start releasing emails that furthered the damaging narrative, emails stolen by the russian government hackerers. jerome corsi says evidence it was not a coincidence and someone from the campaign texted him "well done" after emails posted. the question is did stone make that happen? a member of the house judiciary committee. do

the hearing for roger stone has started. ce we find out what's going to happen with stone, we'll bring it to you live. stay with us for that. and next up, the bombshell testimony in north carolina that has put a republican candidate in the middle of an alleged ballot fraud scheme. llot fraud . i think it will fit. want a performance car that actually fits your life? llot fraud . introducing the new 2019 ford edge st. capability meets power. in the first suv from the ford performance team. the new 2019 ford edge st >>> a small update from the hearing that roger stone is currently in in washington. stone's lawyer, bruce rogo says that the gag order should not be changed and he wants to put stone on the stand to explain himself. the judge says he will get an opportunity to do so. again, we're going to continue watching this. we'll bring you any other developments as they arise. >>> in the meantime, there is a lot of drama down in north carolina's 9th congressional district, where the 2018 midterm house race has still not been ce

but roger stone is known for this.stion is whether the history of roger stone and the sort of tricks that he's always bragged about will come into play in all of this because this may be the first incident with the judge, but it isn't the first one in his life, and that, you know, i think that needs to be taken into account here because this is his standard operating procedure. >> okay. everyone stand by. from one courthouse to another. we got to go to chicago. we're also hearing that jussie smollett, his bond hearing is currently under way. hear what we just found out, including information on text messages. that's next. my experience with usaa has been excellent. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey would say "oh we can

he will never say a bad word about roger stone, as long as stone is fighting these charges. and, you know, he has no respect for the federal judiciary. and remember, this is the guy that said that a mexican-american judge couldn't try his case. this is -- and he's always talking about, you know, obama judges and, you know, who can't be trusted. so the odds of him saying a word in defense of the federal judiciary or judge amy berman jackson, who seems to be doing an excellent job, are remote, to say the least. >> but you have to realize, we keep on wanting to say this is so not norm am. you know, a person could sort of step over the line by accident, talking about the evidence in the case or talking about their defenses when, you know, you're going to have a jury trial pretty soon. this is not even close to the line. >> yeah. judge gertner, great to have you on. thank you. jeff toobin as well. more now on this notion that playtime is over and the so-called players are acting as if they know it. cnn political commentators bakari sellers and david gergen joins us now. so david,

roger stone, somebody i've always liked. roger is a character. but roger -- i don't know if you know this or not, roger wasn't on my campaign except way at the beginning. >> roger wasn't on my campaign is the quote. another way to say that is roger was on trump's campaign, and a role big enough that it made news when he exited in the summer of 2015. trump claimed to have fired him. the he showed up in his filings with the fec as filings on his payroll. he attended two trump weddings as well as the funerals of his parents and worked as a lobbyist for his casinos and they parted ways this the past only to reunite. that same story noted, quote, years ago i fired him and then he came back, mr. trump said. so this is a thing they've done for a while. here you can see stone this weekend at a women for trump event at trump's own d.c. hotel where he drew a kind of a hero's welcome and a chance to speak from the stage. [ cheering and applause ] >> we love you, roger! >> i will put up a vigorous defense, and i will plead not guilty. >> as for the interplay

roger stone is then one back tattoo away from getting caught up in the circus that is russia gate investigations for some time now unlike most trump associates who've been spared embarrassing arrests and perp walks stone was arrested on camera by a dozen tactically armed f.b.i. officers and now it seems that while apple refused to give up the i phone data of the san bernardino shooters roger stone maybe wasn't so lucky according to court filings the f.b.i. as obtained mold is obtaining and giving to the court multiple hard drives containing several terabytes of information consisting of among other things f.b.i. case reports search warrant applications of results e.g. apple i cloud accounts and e-mail accounts bank and financial records and the contents of numerous physical devices e.g. cellular phones computers and hard drives when the government demanded the san bernadino shooters i phone information apple claimed quote from the beginning we objected to the f.b.i.'s demand that apple build it back door into the i phone because we believed it was wrong and would set a dangerous president as a r

roger stone. we have brand-new video of stone's arrest last month this unusual video shows roger stone surrendering in the early-morning fbi raid. you can see him with his hands up. this is the first time we're seeing an arrest in the mueller probe. play out on camera. so let's look at this exact scene. as it played out. this was the morning of january 25th. what you're seeing there on the screen are these fbi agents, long guns drawn, their faces only blurred for the sake of the media coverage. this video was put out by roger stone himself, and so what we're watching now, what the public is seeing for the first time ever is roger stone's morning. friday, january 25th. the information we have suggests this all began around 6:50 a.m. in the morning and what you're seeing here is not something most people ever see. it's not something we've seen with any other person arrested in the mueller probe. because no one else has security footage to leak. what you see on the right side there is the agent making

roger stone was put under arrest. at the same time, a number of search warrants were executed on his properties and his devices. so, i imagine there's a massive exploitation going on now of those devices. you don't know what that will lead to. if you believe roger stone, which is a tall order, on some things he may tell the truth, but he says he never deleted anything. there may be a treasure trove of information that may lead to more charges against roger stone, corroboration of evidence they have that they haven't thought was sufficient to bring against roger stone or other people. >> the news sarah sanders talked to mueller, what i find interesting is, she's in the room having discussions with the president about how to craft various messages. we know she has said things which are not true from the podium that the president probably -- the president has probably lied to her about or that she has been concocting lies with the president. >> all of that could be important. depending on what they're looking at. we don'

they say they are common to the search warrants in the roger stone case. perhaps leaving through e iningr stone was part of the investigation into the russian hackers. he hasn't been charged with collusion. he is charged -- or conspiracy under the law. he has been charged with lying to investigators about this investigation. it would assume at the least that this investigation of the hacked e-mails and whether there was collusion between the campaign and roger stone, it's something that the special counsel's office undertook. it's an investigation that perhaps may still be ongoing. sarah sanders has spoke within the special counsel's team. pamela brown joins us now. >> this is a significant development that we didn't know about, even though sarah sanders was interviewed by robert muell mueller's team late last year. white house had been keeping this under wraps. we learned from sarah sanders herself, in a statement exclusive to cnn, that she voluntarily sat down with robert mueller and she says she did so at the urging of president trump. sarah sanders, of

one was roger stone.oluminous and complex information from the raid of roger stone. terabytes of information. that's going to take a long time to get through. the other thing is that earlier this week, andrew miller who is a stone association who is fighting a grand jury subpoena, his lawyer said the grand jury says they still want his testimony. that suggests they're looking at possible charges maybe against rau roger stone. all of this could take a great amount of time. it's not going to happen as quickly as we want to. >> what are you working on some. >> a week ago "the new york times" reported my governor, larry hogan of maryland might be looking a primary challenge to trump and donors are watching the mueller report and are hesitant about whether to support the president. there has been more movement on the front since the shutdown friday. one, john cornen, who just stepped down as whip in the senate and is running for reelection basically went on the record this weekend and admitted that texas is a

ben always always an interesting life is always interesting when you have to talk about roger stone. you know there was a lot of info in the discovery phase of any arrest and investigation but the stone list was particularly long despite his involvement with campaign being you know realistically a minimal at best so do we know how the f.b.i. obtained the contents of roger stone's devices and do we have any idea of what they've learned from them and what they're using from them what it would have been give up so we don't know everything that's been taken from them but we do know that according to c.n.n. that there are volumes of messages and interactions that the f.b.i. is cataloguing and has compiled as a result of this we also know that they have gotten a hold of this because they didn't bother with the back door this time so whatever that was mentioning a minute ago that in the san bernardino case heavily protested and said they would fight in court the f.b.i. if they were forced to put a backdoor into the i phone because they said it was set a dangerous precedent and she mentioned

roger stone has been a trump associate for decades. they've known each other. stone helped chart out his political rise. paul manafort knew donald trump well before the 2016 campaign. he was a tenant in trump power. obviously they knew each other from that. so there is this whole ecosystem in which these people thrive, in which no one's essentially said no to them. they've gone and done extensively corrupt things. they've gotten way with it. in trump's case he's averted taxes. he's gotten away with it. in stone's case he's been a professional dirty trickster and not just got away from it but profited from that reputation. at some point i guess that catches up to you. what we're seeing now is stone didn't know the limits of what he was allowed to do or felt totally free to push these limits. >> what do you think it is? he's got a lawyer. >> probably a little bit of both. i'm sure there's a pardon play happening here but this is someone who has done far worse things than this in the past and he's always survived. and maybe now the legal system is saying, you've hi

prosecutors have obtained communications between trump associate roger stone and organization 1, aka wikileaks. stone has denied communicating directly with wikileaks. how significant is this? >> well, it's significant that this is the first time we've seen prosecutors, special counsel prosecutors, making this allegation. remember, they didn't mention this in the indictment against roger stone, and they're saying this is the first time we're hearing them say that they have what they say are records of communications between wikileaks and roger stone. now, we don't know what the content of that communications is essentially. we've seen in the past there have been some direct messages that were exchanged. this appears to be something other than that. so that's the big question, don. what is the content of that? again, this has been the holy grail, right, for a lot of people who have been following this investigation, is trying to figure out whether or not any communications between roger stone or anybody else connected to the trump campaign and wikileaks, which we know was receiving thi

this is part of roger stone's attempt to build on the criticism of how agents treated him. this is what i'll say about that. you can assess with your own eyes and compare it to what stone has been saying. he likened himself to a suspect roughed up on par with deceased osama bin laden. and the tactics that you just saw, he says they are like nazi secret police. >> to storm my house with a greater force than was used to take down bin laden, or el chapo or pablo escobar, to terrorize my wife and my dogs, it's unconscionable. this was an egregious overreach by mr. mueller. these are gestapo tactics. >> now the video is coming out as today roger stone is fighting a possible gag order from a judge. the mueller team seeking one and stone's lawyer saying this would be an unconstitutional stone's right to work and pursue a livelihood and their brief cites kim kardashian arguing that stone is not nearly as popular or as big an order and saying a gag would silence their client's voice, we've reported before that roger stone has a point when it comes to freedom of speech. but then there

so let's talk about roger stone. the special counsel -- the prosecutors there say they have communications of roger stone with wikileaks. i want to read from this court filing. the government obtained dozen of search warrants on various accounts used to facilitate the transfer of stolen documents as well as to discuss the timing and promotion of their release. speak to me about how significant this was. >> the filing today that this came from linked the investigation by the special counsel's office, the indictment of the russians who hacked the e-mails, the op-podesta e-mails hillary clinton stuff, that linked roger stone to that. and we learned that the special counsel's office on the record was investigating roger stone as part of this, whether or not there was coordination, whether or not there was collusion, whether or not they said it was for the first time really publicly that they said that roger stone was communicating. they have communications between roger stone and wikileaks. there was all this informatio

roger stone -- special counsel saying that they have roger stone's communications with wikileaks. he's denied that he's ever directly spoke to them or communicated with them. this is big, right? >> this is huge, don. i think this is even bigger than manafort because this is even more direct evidence of collusion. i mean look at what was said in the court filing that was released today. the government obtained and executed dozens of search warrants on various accounts used to facilitate the transfer of stolen documents for release, and also discussed the timing and promotion of their release. what that is saying is that roger stone was communicating with wikileaks, which was a russian intelligence front organization, to discuss the timing of the release of these stone democratic party documents. this is collusion. this is the very definition of collusion. this is -- or in legal terms, this is a conspiracy to defraud the united states by affecting the course of our election in concert with these foreign actors who are hacking democratic party accounts. >> both of you stick around. w

while discussing bumping heads with his intel chiefs and whether he would pardon indicted a pal roger stone. >> roger is somebody that i've always liked, but a lot of people liked roger. some people probably don't like roger. roger stone is somebody i've always liked. rojer is a character. >> changing faces. despite his shifting stories, calls are mounting to step down for northham. what happens now since he's not resigning? >>> another one, two more names have been added to the crowded field of democrats running for president. with so many candidates to keep up with, how do they make themselves stand out from the crowd? but let's begin on this sunday with president trump unplugged, running the political gamut in a new interview with cbs news, touching on topics from the mueller probe to another possible potential government shutdown. now just 12 days away. >> i want to be looking a little bit at iran because iran is a real problem. >> whoa. that's news. you're keeping troops in iraq because you want to be able to strike in iran? >> no, because i want to be able to watch iran. even the muel

the first one is about roger stone, president trump's longtime adviser. he was arrested at his home in florida three weeks ago today. mr. stone has pled not guilty to seven felony charges. he says he's innocent every everything he he was charged with. one of the interesting things about roger stone's indictment right from the get-go, on the front page of that indictment, prosecutors notified the court that they considered his case to have a sibling. they considered his case to be formally legally related to this other case that has this case number that you can see here 18cr215. that case is the mueller indictment of a dozen russian military intelligence officers. that case is the gru indictment. one of the core indictments of mueller's investigation was that gru indictment from last year. in that indictment mueller charged russian military intelligence officers with, quote, conspiring to hack into the computers of u.s. persons and entities involved in the 2016 u.s. presidential election to steal documents from those computers and to stage releases of the

there's also news about paul manafort's one time business partner roger stone. today, mueller's team filed a document in stone's case, rejecting his request for a different judge, and there, in the document, the felts say for the first time, they have evidence of roger stone communicating with wikileaks, as well as guccifer 2.0. that was the alias used by russian attackers to hack into the dnc computers, steal the e-mails and lack them. that's notable because stone has said repeatedly he never communicated with guccifer or wikileaks. the federal judge issued gag order. enough to get stone to stop talking about the case in ways that would prejudice future jurors. >> to stormy house with greater force than was used to take down bin laden or el chapo or pablo escobar. they sent fewer men to go after bin laden than after me. i saw a dozen other fbi agents in the background, all wearing night goggles, full s.w.a.t. gear. to make me look guilty in public. to poison the jury pool and make me look like el chapo or some kind of drug kingpin. >> so, it's those kind of inte

and this is important because there's that vague line in the indictment against roger stone that says he was directed some time after july 22, 2016, that a senior campaign official was directed to get in touch with stone. we don't know who the senior official was and we don't know who directed that person, but the president definitively said it was not him tonight. seemed defiant about, you know, negotiations with congress, that his lawyers have been told by rod rosenstein he himself is not a target of investigations into him. although he seemed to suggest that only applied to the mueller probe, not the southern district of new york probe into michael cohen and into aspects of the trump organization. and, you know, he was adamant that he is essentially done with congress. he considers negotiations with them right now. >> you talked about his demeanor. i don't want to just focus on the demeanor. i'm wondering what it tells us overall. you said you described him as having his arms tightly folded when him about the russia investigation. but he sounded opmitsic to you, right? >> i think h

. >> now roger stone. roger stone, the president's long time associate has been indicted on obstruction and false statements and a judge is weighing whether to put a gag order on his case. today his lawyers entered a court filing which had a lot 60 inaccuracies about how the media learned about his arrest. can you talk to me about that? >> there's been plenty going on. he said the special counsel's team shared with cnn a copy of the indictment. prosecutors are saying you didn't unseal this -- roger stone's team is saying you didn't unseal this correctly. there are so many players, brooke but we have to walk you through the timeline. if you look through my text messages with roger stone's attorney, which are part of these court records, they show i'm texting roger stone's attorney and i'm saying to him at 6:17 in the morning, i've received this press release from the special counsel saying roger stone is arrested. at this point cnn knows this. we decided to stake him out. at 6:17 in the morning we get the p

why would roger stone be so confident about what stone says his answer matches trump.nd the question tonight becomes has bob mueller concluded that donald trump also lied about the wikileaks matter. that is the reporting that we have for you tonight. the most ominous thing for trump has apparently been playing out in plain sight in public with this new chapter today that is legally gigantic even if it may have been understandably overshadowed by other fire works and passion and scandal and intrigue. i want to get our legal experts to break all of this down when we're back in just 30 seconds. n we're ckba in just 30 seconds. zblomplgts welcome back to our special coverage. we've been details our reporting on the devastating claim michael cohen made today on questions whether there's evidence trump misled bob mueller in his written answers. i want to dig into this exact piece of reporting with both of you. john, do you view what michael cohen said in concert with the stone indictment and what we just laid out as advancing the potential that mueller has already caught don

we begin with the indicted former trump aide roger stone. he was back in court today facing a judge who is considering a gag order, a decision that could seriously up end this case. what would that mean? today the judge stressed if she does rule to gag stone, he still has free speech rights to discuss, like, immigration or foreign relations or tom brady, but not discuss this case. the judge also made comments that seemed to lean against stone note, quote, this is a criminal proceeding and not a public relations campaign. but stone is arguing he must mount exactly that kind of pr campaign to defend himself and to prevent people he says from thinking any silence would mean that he's guilty. >> i believe that in the current atmosphere when one is accused of wrongdoing and one has no response, he either is not available or doesn't comment. there is a presumption of guilt that perhaps is unfair but very real. >> we're also learning today that bob mueller's team is game for an october trial. the judge says summer might make more sense. stone left

stone has the support of the president of the united states and a wide range of interviews. president trump spoke favorably of his former associate, i like roger, he's a character, i think that was a very sad thing for this country. the president went on denying any involvement with stone or wikileaks along with any wrong doing during the development of trump tower moscow, there is news breaking at this hour. we'll talk about roger stone. >>> the latest candidate on the democratic side running for president, here he is in new york, cory booker. >> my career started in politics with a bunch of tenant leaders who perhaps, i got my b.a. from stanford but my phd from the streets of newark. they believe it was a best way to make a difference in this neighborhood. life is about purpose and not position and i stay to the t purpose that brought me into politics. it is a map of this neighborhood that sits behind me on my desk to focus on the folks that took a chance on me and put me into the game. what i heard around the country that people in america are losing faith that this nation will work for them. they're beginning to believe that too many folks

the fbi gathered much of the material when agents raided roger stone's home. during his arrest in florida predawn last friday. earlier today, stone was asked about what was seized and about mueller's latest court filing. >> it says the evidence against you is voluminous and complex. does that scare you at all? >> my attorneys have agreed to that. it is so voluminous and complex that a speedy trial is literally impossible. so we stipulated to that in the hearing before the magistrate and both parties agreed to that. >> prosecutors have charged stone with obstruction, witness tampering, and lying to congress about his efforts to get hacked e-mails from wikileaks during the 2016 campaign. the white house has said that charges have nothing to do with trump and stone says he's not guilty. since his arrest, stone has been vocal about the treatment he received at the hands of the fbi agents who took him into custody. allegations, which as we mentioned, have drawn the attention of trump as well as republicans in congress. on top of saying he won't bear false witness fo

roger j. stone's notice of apology. and then this is the filing. ned counsel with the attached authority of roger j. stone hereby apologizes to the court for the improper photograph and comment posted on his instragram today. instragram. mr. stone recognizes the impropriety and had it removed. then attached to that from the lawyers is this little legal ditty from roger stone himself with roger stone's signature attached. quote, please inform the court that the photograph and comment today was improper and should not have been posted. i had no intention of disrespecting the court and humbly apologize, extra space, to the court for the transgression. concurrent with this misspelled and apparently hastily-dashed off apology to the courts under the headline "apology," concurrent with this mr. stone tonight has apparently dropped the second iteration of his instagram post. first he just took down the crosshairs and reposted the thing that he posted again, and then he took that down, too. so we will see how this works out. this is not the sort of thing th

so let's talk about roger stone, shimon, okay? special counsel, the prosecutors there say that they have communications of roger stone with wikileaks. i just want to read from this court filing. the government obtained and executed dozens of search warrants for release as well as to discuss the timing and promotion of their release. speak to me about how significant this is, shimon. >> so, for me, what was so significant about this, the filing today that this came from linked the investigation by the special counsel's office, the indictment of the russians who hacked the e-mails, the podesta e-mails, hillary clinton's stuff, all of that. this sort of linked the roger stone case to that. that was the whole point of this filing today. and for the first time we learned that actually the special counsel's office on the record was investigating roger stone as part of this. whether or not there was coordination. whether or not there was collusion. whether or not they said it was for the first time, really publicly that they said that ro

now, roger stone and his attorneys had objected to the roger stone case being formally legally linked to the gru case. they had complained about it formally to the court. why do they care? well, one of the material consequences of having your case legally linked to another case is that all legally formally related cases all get heard by the same judge. so when roger stone and his lawyers started complaining to the court that his case shouldn't have been described as related to the gru indictment, what they were really saying is that they didn't want roger stone's case to be heard by the same judge who is dealing with the gru case. he was effectively arguing that he wanted to be assigned to a different judge. roger stone and his lawyers today failed in that effort. that same judge is keeping his case. that ruling from the judge came very quickly today after robert mueller and the d.c. u.s. attorney's office filed a response with the court, laying out why in fact the roger stone case and the gru case are all about the same thing. and in the course of making that argument to the court, w