roger stone's lawyer is saying and, we're going to get to this later in the hour, roger stone's lawyer is saying he's not going to show up as a witness because he's taking the fifth amendment. no, you have to show up, take the oath, answered the question about what's your name and then when we ask you were were you under andrea six, you can then start taking the fifth. for individual questions as they get close to an arena that might criminally incriminate you. this idea that when taking the fifth, so i'm not going to go. i'm not going to show up. that is not how the fifth amendment works. >> it's also the way it works for them to be asserting various forms of privilege. like, jeffrey clark, the justice department official, before he pled the fifth, he showed up and went in and said, it's privileged a various kinds. and we're like, we're going to ask your question, you can assert what specific privilege you think a place that excuses you from answering it. we'll ask a question, you tell us. he's like no, you can't ask me questions. it just privilege. like he's got a cloak of invisibili

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so i'm not surprised at all by roger stone.i'm confident they're out there. >> well, of course you can build a case without getting the testimony of the most important suspects in the case, and that's frequently done. in most prosecutions, the prosecutors don't have any access to the criminal defendant at all, and they still build condemning evidentiary cases around those people. >> exactly right. i was thinking and looking at some of the information that the committee has put forward. they have spoken to or interviewed more than 250 people. they have gotten the preservation of records. they are collecting the metadata around conversations and texts. they will be able to -- we, congress, will be able to connect a tremendous number of the dots, even with the obstruction of thugs and gangs and those who are really fearful for their own culpability for what they know, for what they knew and did nothing about. the notion that people knew and prepared and planned, knew about the dollars that were to be spent and, of course, knew wha

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>> you mean a contingency plan for if roger stone does not testify? >> not just roger stone but -- yes, go ahead -- >> i think what they're trying to do is subpoenaing scores and scores of people to put together a portrait of what happened around them, to help cooperating witnesses who, for example, would have had conversations with roger stone, mark meadows, who provided testimony under oath so when the report does come out they can put together a picture of what was happening in those conversations without some of these people. keep in mind roger stone, mark meadows, they were not working in a vacuum, they were coordinaing and planning with others, others in the room and having those conversations. you can tell the committee what happened. >> let's talk a little about mark meadows and his involvement in this. the lawmakers, all of the members of the ultra conservative house freedom caucus, worked closely with the white house chief of staff, mark meadows, whose central role in mr. trump's efforts to overturn a democratic election is coming into focus

they subpoenaed roger stone yet again. where was he on january 6? he was in a hotel room as the capitol was being breached. he has nothing to do with it. it doesn't matter. he criticized joe biden. he could go to jail again. now the committee is deciding to shut down one of the most popular journalists on the right, alex jones. jones is mocked for his flamboyance but the truth is he's been a far better guide to reality in recent years, in other words, a far better journalist than nbc news national correspondent ken dlanian or margaret brennan of cbs. m alex jones never bought the russia hoax, not for a second. and if he sat down with tony fauci, he would ask real questions like a journalist is supposed to do. wouldn't just slobber all over it. alex jones makes fun of joe biden so the committee threatens hip with prison. the irony, alex jones isn't simply innocent of inciting crime on january 6, he actively worked to prevent crimes from taking place on january 6. we're not running interference for alex jones and we're not guessing it, we happen to kn

a picture of roger stone with members of the oath keepers. know how many pictures i have it people that i don't even know the last few years? i'm an american political icon whether i like it or not. the idea that i'm responsible for anything that person has done past, present, future, when i don't even know their name, is an absurdity. >> abc news done that? >> they are the absolute worst. we have groundbreaking video of stone standing in front of his hotel. if you watch the video all you're going to find out is how much people love roger stone and how i accommodate those who ask for a selfie, picture, headship, or whatever. in the background you can see members of the proud boys. what does that prove? that proves nothing. >> who and abc is leading this? >> i've been disappointed on ellie dukakis. this is just flat out guilt by association. it's outrageous, really. there is nothing to tell the committee. i know nothing whatsoever about this. let's look at it from another point of view. one thing i am not is politically stupid. breaking into t

so the last time roger stone refused to tell the truth about donald trump during the russia probe he sentence commuted. so what's the angle now? stone and the others taking the fifth, are they just hoping to run out the clock until after the mid-terms? >> well, i think it's smart. it's almost checkmate in a way because the prosecutors can't really do anything. once he takes the fifth, he doesn't have to testify and we're not going to get the information. if meadows had been smart he would have not turned over documents early on, would have taken the fifth with some combination of executive privilege. and he probably would have never ended up indicted. same thing with bannon, if he had taken the fifth he wouldn't have been indicted. anybody can take the fifth if they reasonably believe what they say may tend to incriminate them, and then the prosecutors are stuck with that answer. so it was a smart thing to do. i can't believe more people didn't do it and didn't do it sooner. >> alex jones meantime is the latest subpoenaed person to have his deposition postponed. he was due to talk to

michelle, roger stone pleads the fifth. roger stone has been pardoned before. roger stone apparently wakes up every day and drinks lucky juice. when is roger stone potentially going to face more consequences for his behavior, or do you think i can stall this until next fall or perhaps after the elections? >> i mean, i have frankly no idea, because i don't know what roger stone is implicated in, in terms of his role in actually causing this riot. i would just say that when somebody takes the fifth in a criminal trial, the jury is required not to hold that against them. but this is not a criminal trial. this is looking into wrongdoing but it's also a political proceeding. and so the american people do not have to do what a jury would do and say that if there's nothing wrong here, roger stone doesn't get to have it both ways. he doesn't both get to say i can't answer because my answers might incriminate me and then go out and say but actually i have nothing incriminating to say. i think we can assume from his silence that there is indeed something incriminating ab

and roger stone admitted it. stone, when he got the commutation of his sentence, said that donald trump knows what i know, and i didn't talk. it was implicit if not explicit admission that he was receiving this pardon in return for not cooperating. now what are we looking at with steve bannon in this case? as things are unfolding and steve bannon was integrally involved in the planning for january 6th, it puts a slightly different gloss on the pardon that bannon received a couple weeks after january 6th, before donald trump left office. so we know that he's willing and able to do this for his cronies because he did it with roger stone, and then he did it again with steve bannon. and i wonder to what degree that influenced steve bannon to defy the subpoena from the january 6th committee. i have no information about it, but, you know, once you start to see patterns and you know that someone as corrupt as donald trump is in the mix with all this power, it's not a far leap to think that may have had something to do w

roger stone loves going into the cameras, calling investigates invalid or corrupt.ern about criminal repercussions. so, how do you see this playing out for him? >> yeah, well, remember, roger stone was actually convicted of lying to congress before. so he's been through this -- you know, he was going to do everything he could to having to avoid testifying. most people consider invoking the fifth don't, because they think it's going to look bad. that's not an issue for roger stone. now, the house could try to get him granted immunity. they could challenge his implication of the fifth. i don't think they're going to do either of those things. he's going to invoke the fifth but the committee is going to use other means to get at information. remember, they've subpoenaed cell phone records. they've got lots of other witnesses who are testifying and lots of other witnessing who are cooperating. >> i want to talk about this exclusive reporting by cnn. the november 5th text came from rick perry former energy secretary. a spokesman for perry tells cnn he denies being the au

i cannot imagine that roger stone will have anything to say.meras in front of him. but talk to us about this army colonel. a powerpoint presentation. what was he going to do with that? fax it somewhere? >> first on roger stone, the deposition is scheduled for 10:00 a.m. roger stone may show up, he is expected to, but not expected to cooperate in any form or fashion. he has suggested that he'll plead the fifth amendment as a blanket statement and refusing to answer questions. we know from the jeffrey clark situation that the committee chairman, bennie thompson, does not expect that. he expects there to be a fifth amendment assertion on a case-by-case basis, a question-by-question basis, so roger stone may not be out of the woods just by pleading the fifth onnen this other subpoena that landed yesterday, a man named james phil waldron, a retired army colonel, who contributed to a powerpoint that the chairman, bennie thompson of the committee has called an lawmakering blueprint for overturning a nationwide election, waldron said he had spoke to ma

for a new episode, former trump adviser roger stone, stone said the feds wanted him to enter the capitoljanuary 6 and here's a part of that conversation. >> you think if you had made it inside the capitol they would have prosecuted you? >> i think i was being set up. here's the amazing thing. i watched the president's speech from my hotel room at the willard hotel and then there was a call on the house phone, and two agents from the secret service wanted to escort me to the capitol. now, i have been in politics for a long time. secret service doesn't do political chores. they never have. i would have gotten there had i left that moment at the exact time that these folks broke into the capitol. now i know that my friends, alex jones, and others were approached by the secret service and asked if they wanted an escort to the capitol at the same time. had alex jones not stopped for a bathroom break they would have gotten there just as the building was being penetrated. as it was they got there afterwards and you can see it, jones jumps up on a chair with a bullhorn and says no, don't go in t

it will be a show for roger stone. >> it will be a show for roger stone, as it always has been. let's compare bannon and meadows quickly. bannon told the committee to buzz off. he never attempted to provide documents or provide testimony, so the contempt referral on bannon made sense and it made sense to me that the committee charged him with contempt. we know that meadows provided thousands of documents to the committee and he negotiated through his attorney to provide testimony. that didn't happen, but he still negotiated. and, unlike bannon who has some small semblance of an advice of counsel defense which i think may not work, meadows probably has an advice of counsel defense. we may not like what his counsel is saying, we may not believe in his assertion of executive privilege, but in terms of charging him as a criminal with contempt of congress, the meadows case is tougher than the bannon case. again, not impossible but tougher. >> but tougher. i'm glad that you agree with me, chuck. roger stone is just going to put on a show tomorrow. we have a decision to make. do we bri

earlier today, longtime gop operative roger stone appeared before the select committee, with stone tryingargue his appearance fulfilled the obligation, even though he refused to answer a single question. here's how he explains. >> i did invoke my fifth amendment rights to every question, now because i have done anything wrong, but fully aware of the house democrats' long history of fabricating perjury charges on the basis of comments that are innocuous, immaterial or irrelevant. >> that's night. a important fact check to that claim, it's not true that the perjury charges he's references are fabricated. he was convicted by the congress and then later pardoned by the president. some others who have been subpoenaed have tried to claim, plus we're getting new word of tomorrow's deposition of alex jones is being postponed. for more on this, sahil kapur has more on this. what are we hearing, appeared to what degree is the committee concerned about not getting answers from him. >> reporter: garrett, the official response is it will not comment on the stone deposition as it is prohibited from tal

roger stone is just going to put on the show tomorrow. so we have a decision to make, do we bring our cameras are not. one might say don't bring them, don't give him an audience. yamiche, eugene, chuck always good to see you all. i appreciate you joining offer leadoff panel. tonight coming up critics consider him the grinch who is holding up build back better. joe biden blames the republicans will two of our best political observers are standing by and they are going to tell us who is to blame. and later, demand for covid test is soaring right along with virus cases. we will talk with doctor vin gupta. the 11th hour is just getting warmed up on this thursday night. thursday night. don't just put on a light show—be the light show. make your nights anything but silent. and ride in a sleigh that really slays. because in a cadillac, tradition is yours to define. so visit a cadillac showroom, and start celebrating today. ♪ ♪ i've been telling everyone... so visit a cadillac showroom, and start celebrating today. the secret to great teeth is ha

tonight, for example, we learned longtime trump adviser roger stone will plead the fifth. in so doing, he will join john eastman and trump justice department official jeffrey clark, both of whom sought to overturn election results in the days before january 6th and now told the committee they are pleading the fifth. roger stone now joining them in doing so. mark meadows is apparently not going to do that. january 6th investigators have told mr. meadows that they still expect him to tell them what he knows. today, the leaders of that investigation, the chairman, democratic congressman bennie thompson, the vice chair, liz cheney, released a statement about meadows. it says in part, quote, tomorrow's deposition, which was scheduled at mark meadows' request, will go forward as planned. if indeed mr. meadows refuses to appear, the committee will have no choice but to recommend contempt proceedings and recommend that the body in which mr. meadows once served now refers him for criminal prosecution. in other words, they're threatening explicitly if he doesn't show up at 10:00 tom

roger stone will plead the fifth tomorrow. the january 6th investigation tonight sent a new subpoena to a man named phil waldren. we might remember this video clip. we discussed him in detail at the top of last night's show. he is the man that claimed credit for compiling the absolutely bananas, here's how to do a coup 38-page powerpoint presentation that somehow founding its way to trump's white house counsel and ultimately found its way to the january 6th investigation. that document said the election results should be thrown out and falsified, reversed, by a simple process. trump should declare a national security emergency. the national guard should be federalized, and they should be sent out to seize ballots all over the country. this is the guy who said the mastermind of the election fraud was the brother of the vice president of venezuela. okay. also china. also there was a server in germany and some u.v. light and rare earth minerals that need to be -- incidentally he breathlessly reported that none of the vote totals

after the deposition roger stone insisted he did nothing wrong.ifth to prevent democrats from, as he put it, fabricating perjury charges against him. >> i was not at the capitol. and any claim, assertion or even implication that i knew about or was involved in any way whatsoever with the illegal and politically counterproductive activities of january 6th is categorically false. >> well, the january 6th committee says roger stone was in washington on january the 5th and 6th, that he had been invited to lead a march to the capitol, and that he had promoted his attendance at the rallies and solicited support to pay for security roger stone says his activities leading up to the insurrection fall under constitutionally protected free speech and the right to free assembly >>> with tens of thousands of combat troops massed on ukraine's border, russia is laying out some tough demands for the united states and nato they include rolling back the u.s. and nato alliance military presence in eastern europe and central asia the kremlin also is demanding nato de

the idea that we've had roger stone subpoenaed, alex jones, three other individuals, add to that mark and steve bannon. are we seeing the collapse of the rule of law at the highest levels in the united states, mr. mayor? >> yes, sebastian. we watched that all through the trump presidency i mean, the democrats handled themselves like fascists there were no constitutional rules. why is it that the only lawyers whose law offices get broken into are donald trump's lawyers? remember, they went and got my icloud account i'm a lawyer >> seth: all right, but not really [ laughter ] i mean, your law license was suspended, and you lost every case you brought after the election the only thing you succeeded at doing was drumming up publicity for a landscaping company. [ laughter ] i mean, looks like he's shooting a local commercial for them. "come on down to four seasons total landscaping. our prices are so crazy you'll be screaming, 'why, god? [ laughter ] why?'" but, hey, at least he's not the kind of guy who puts his thumb on the front facing camera [ laughter ] more importantly, let's go back

roger stone pleading the fifth.t tools did the investigatory committee have in getting the information that they need. >> well, depends on the privilege a little bit. for executive privilege, we've seen them go down this route of either filing criminal contempt charges which could result in criminal punishment or they could also use civil contempt which is really a tool for coercion to jail someone until they agree to testify. that could be a good tool using against someone like mark meadows whose testimony i think they very much want to have. now, for those invoking the final amendment, that's a little harder. roger stone wants it both ways, saying i haven't really committed a crime, and so i'm invoking my fifth amendment right. that's not how it works with a well-grounded fear of criminal prosecution. most of the time, when someone invokes their fifth amendment rights judges will typically honor that. and then the only option is considering whether to grant immunity to those witnesses who have invoked the fifth am

roger stone. rarely with the press. >> i did invoke fly fifth amendment rights to every question, not because i have done anything wrong, but because i am fully aware of the house democrats' long history of fabricating perjury charges, this is witch-hunt 3.0. roger stone was boasting he could be there, but he's used these people who had fair-right extremist connections. >> more stonewalling, no do you. mary trump joins us. she's host of the new podcast, the mary trump show, and also the book of "the reckoning." thanks so much for joining us. throw away their careers and reputations, you know, for somebody who doesn't deserve any of that. it seems to happen over and over again. what is it that inspiring this loyalty? i think it's complicated, but there's been quite simple reasons. donald is incredibly good at attracting people who are weaker than he is. weak people need external power to give them a sentence of identity and purpose. at this point i think of his most ardent sick ofans as people addi

. >> roger stone was deposed today by the january 6th committee. he was planning to invoke the fifth amendment for much of his deposition. we'll find out more about whether or not he did that. it does pose the question. why wouldn't other witnesses such as mark meadows or steve bannon who both just refused to show up to testify, why not just show up and plead the fifth? >> right. that may be what they end up doing because they know perhaps that if they -- they don't want to perjure themselves under oath, right? that's what they are trying to do. they want to avoid having to lie or having to admit that they had a hand in trying to overthrow democracy and had a hand in allowing what happened on january 6th to happen. so we'll see what happened with roger stone. we'll see what happens with mark meadows. but these people really love this country, if they were true patriots, if they believed in all the conservative values they've been espousing for years, they would just go and tell the truth about what happened. >> s.e. >> daniela, thank you. >>> it's

roger stone asserting his fifth amendment right. and which was expected.ing there was more to it? >> reporter: yeah, erica, as always with roger stone, there is a bit of showmanship connected to this all, he wanted to make sure the cameras knew what time he was arriving and he offered up some theories as to why he thought that the committee had called him there front of them and why he chose not to answer any of their questions. by what is consistent with the committee here is that even if one of the subpoena targets suggested that they're going to take the fifth, the committee ro requires them to show up and answer the questions and after he wrapped up the interview, and it wasn't very long, stone told reporters that he took the fifth to every single question they asked him. now that is us taking stone's word for it. he's not observe someone who has great familiarity with the truth. but we have to assume that he did not provide them much information. now, we do know that there was another witness that appeared in front of the committee today and that pers

when i think about roger stone at all, these are just donald trump's cronies stonewalling.as in the gallery january 6th we as americans deserve a full accounting on what happened on january 6th so that we can make sure that that insurrection, that type of insurrection over our government can never happen again. and so i was pleased to hear that mitch mcconnell, who you know, sometimes reluctantly but often will side on the right of democracy and accountability said so as well. for me, i think it's all about making sure that this never happens again. those of us who face history and do nothing about it are doomed to repeat it. >> well, look, mitch mcconnell he's on the record saying we need to know, america needs to know. as you know, the committee released a text message from republican congressman jim jordan to former trump chief of staff mark meadows. the text questioned the electoral votes and argument what vice president pence should have done. jordan's office said the text was a forward. does it make any difference if it's a forward? because isn't it still validating a

that's when roger stone coined the phrase "stop the steal."er stone promised a bloodbath if trump were not installed as president. so there's plenty of evidence in the public domain generally speaking about the tactics. there's plenty of evidence about specific actions they are going to take. michael flynn was calling for a cou lynn wood was recruiting insurrectionists. steve bannon announced the coup on his podcast. this is extremely easy to find out. that is why when the house impeached trump in february, they were able to rely exclusively on public domain evidence and did not caught witnesses. merrick garland, an experienced professional, could have gone into this. instead, he's done basically nothing but allowed trump add his crime cult to run out the clock. none of this should have come as a surprise to anybody. >> malcolm, after hearing what sarah just said, i don't have a tremendous amount of confidence in this administration hunting down these people who are terrorists. if you found a powerpoint for people who attempted to overthrow a

roger stone.tee has interviewed some 300 people, many of whom we don't know, not even jamie knows, all the work they have been doing. they have been talking to people very close to trump people, who worked on the campaign, people that worked with the legal team, people that worked at the white house. they are cooperating, they are turning over documents. there's a lot more in this committee than what we have seen so far. >> jonathan, thank you for joining us here in the so much. >> it's good to be here. >> but for writing "betrayal." an excellent book. i'm glad you wrote it. thank you for helping us understand what's going on. >>> closing arguments begin monday in the trial of the sobbing police officers who takes the stand in her own defense. we'll be right back. hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ this... is the planning effect. this is how it feels to have a dedicated fidelity advisor looking at your full financial picture. this is what it's like to have a comprehensive wealth plan with tax-smart investing

>> reporter: alex, roger stone showed up for his 90-minute deposition yesterday here on capitol hillle question asked of him. the fifth amendment is a constitutional right of every citizen in the united states, and that is invoked when somebody wants to avoid answering a question that may self-incriminate them. stone maintained he didn't invoke the fifth amendment because he's guilty. instead's listen to what he told reporters right after the deposition. >> i did invoke my fifth amendment rights to every question, not because i have done anything wrong, but because i am fully aware of the house democrats long history of fabricating perjury charges on the basis of comments that are innocuous, immaterial or irrelevant. >> reporter: now, stone went on to say any implication he was involved on january 6th is categorically false." the committee left town for the holidays. so has the house and senate. before they did, they issued a subpoena to phil waldrin, an ex-army colonel involved in the election fraud circles involved testifying before the arizona senate during that audit and reported

playing a key role in shaping the biden agenda. >>> trump ally roger stone is now a third member to plead friday, stone met for about 30 minutes and evoked his right to not answer any question he was asked. san antonio promoted his appearance and stated his role was to lead a march to the capitol. >>> a florida man has been sentenced to five years in jail he charged the officers with a wooden plank and a poll. >> a bit of a problem. not enough st. nick to go around. we'll explain when we come back. hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ how did olay top expensive creams? like this with hydration that beats the $100 cream in every jar of regenerist retinol24 collagen peptide new vitamin c and the iconic red jar can't top this skin shop now at olay.com as a professional bull-rider i'm used to taking chances. but when it comes to my insurance i don't. i use liberty mutual, they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. wooo, yeaa, woooooo and, by switching you could even save 665 dollars. hey tex, can someone else get a turn? yeah, hang on, i'm about to break my own record. yeah. onl

roger stone now joining them in doing so. mark meadows is apparently not going to do that.gators have told mr. meadows that they still expect him to tell them what he knows. the chairman, democratic congressman benny thompson, the vice chair, liz cheney, released a statement about meadows. it says in part, quote, tomorrow's deposition, which was scheduled at mark meadows' request will go forward as planned. the committee will be left no choice but to advance contempt proceedings and recommend that the body in which mr. meadows once served now refers him for criminal prosecution. in other words, they're threatening explicitly if he doesn't show up at 10:00 tomorrow for that deposition, he's likely to be the next member of trump world to be facing potential prison time after a justice department criminal prosecution for contempt. this is getting good. watch this space. sleep you reach for the really good stuff. new zzzquil ultra helps you sleep better and longer when you need it most. it's non habit forming and powered by the makers of nyquil. new zzzquil ultra. when you real

roger stone in particular is signaling he will actually show up.has said he will plead the fifth when asked any questions. the committee has made it clear you can't just send a letter and plead the fifth. you have to come in and answer questions and in a statement to cnn his attorney making it seem that is exactly what stone will do. we have no idea what jones' plans are. he is scheduled to be here on saturday. though there has been some defiance with some of the witnesses that have been close to the former president donald trump the committee is still getting cooperation. we learned today they spoke for several hours with former department of homeland security official ken cuccinelli who said he answered all of their questions, did not talk about any specific conversations that he had with president trump, but said that he was asked questions about the chief of staff mark meadows. cuccinelli of course was the "new york times" reported at one point pressured by rudy guiliani to ask whether the dhs could seize voting machines, something they did not

. >> you also have news on roger stone. what'd you learn? was going to plead the fifth. that has now become official, in a letter that he sent the committee through his attorney, saying that he wasn't going to work with them and that he was going to plead the fifth on this. there are a lot of people now at this point, steph, who are saying that they're going to plead the fifth. we know jeffrey clark is one of those people, roger stone is now one of those people. but that's not necessarily a workaround to saying that they're cooperating with the committee, so that they're not held in contempt. there are ways for the committee to move ahead with people who say that they want to plead the fifth, because they cannot criminalize themselves for wrongdoing. there are ways that the committee can get them to say, okay, you don't have to criminalize yourself for the things that you're talking about, but we still want that information. that's probably where this goes next, as we've seen more people try to plead the fifth, too. >> my goodness, this is g

the committee has subpoenaed roger stone for remarks he made before the rally, several days before the rally. he's supposed to turn over relevant documents tomorrow. what's the panel hoping to get from him and how are they expecting him to respond? >> there is not a lot of high expectations for the cooperation of many of these key people involved in this. even the pattern we've seen with other officials, whether claiming executive privilege or the latest, that they're going to invoke the fifth amendment. the committee is finding there is not a lot of cooperation, which is to be expected with these officials involved or seemingly involved in the planning and execution of this january 6th rally. obviously roger stone is someone that the committee wants to bring in and is hopeful they get some information from him, given that his contacts in the trump administration and his involvement in some of these meetings and planning efforts that ultimately concluded with this january 6th insurrection. but at the same time, as we have seen all these officials are claiming various legal privileges t

roger stone now joining them in doing so. mark meadows is apparently not going to do that.he knows. today, the leaders of that investigation, the chairman, democratic congressman bennie thompson, vice chair, republican congressman, liz cheney, released a statement about that. says in part quote, tomorrow's deposition, which was schedule at mark meadows requests, will go forward as planned. if indeed mr. meadows refuses to appear, the committee will be left no choice but to advance contempt for seedings and recommend that the body in which mr. meadows once served now refers him for criminal prosecution. prosecution. in other words, the threatening explicitly that if mark meadows, from white house chief of staff, does it show up at 10:00 tomorrow for that deposition, he's likely to be the next member of trump world to be facing potential prison time after a justice department criminal prosecution for contempt. it's getting good. watch this space. blood pressure, a cold is not just a cold. unlike other cold medicines, coricidin provides powerful cold relief without raising you

long-trump roger stone repeatedly took the fifth with the digging into his role leading up to the insurrection. meanwhile, a florida man received the longest sentence yet for january 6th, 63 months for assaulting capitol police with a fire extinguisher. senate democrats seem to have abandoned passing president biden's build back better agenda, they're pivoting to voting rights and facing the two same road blocks that held up bbb, that is, of course, filibuster loving manchin and sinema. theyed a adjourned this morning and won't be back until january 3rd. it's beginning to look like nothing will be passed by christmas. joining me is member of the house judiciary committee, of course, washington congress woman camilla jayapal. a lot of people are disappointed build back better won't pass. it's great to see them shifting to voting rights, however, there is a hump to getting over voting rights. their actions to get it passed. one is adopting a one-time chain, senator kaine to install a talking filibuster and force the gop to stand on the floor and maintain 41 votes to black legislation. what can y

roger stone is one of 50 people subpoenaed so far and overall the commission has already interviewed more than 300 witnesses. this morning, trump confidant and ally, roger stone, defiant. >> this is witch hunt 3.0. >> reporter: meeting with the january 6th commission friday but pleading the fifth. >> i am fully aware of the house democrats' long history of fabricating perjury charges. >> reporter: refusing to answer questions about his actions leading up to the capitol attack. >> i did not march to the capitol. >> reporter: while stone was not at the stop the steal rally january 6th he did speak at one in washington d.c. the night before. >> they seek nothing less than the heist of the 2020 election and we say, no way! >> reporter: and sought donations for the security of protesters seeking to overturn the election. according to his congressional subpoena. the long-time gop operative and friend of donald trump advised the former president throughout his 2016 bid for the white house. convicted in 2019 of lying to congress about trump campaign contacts and ultimately pardoned by trump.

long-time trump ally roger stone invoked the fifth amendment to every question asked on friday.of staff mark meadows refused to cooperate and is now being held in contempt. according to report, the committee believes it was former secretary of energy rick perry who tested meadow's mushing strategy to invalidate the 2020 presidential election. they suspended fill wal drone a retired colonel a part of a group of advisers of a power point outlining a coup. meanwhile, florida resident roger palmer has been sentenced to just over five years in prison for assaults officer during the riot, the longest imposed in the capitol riot case. mitch mcconnell suggests support for the committee's work. >> the fact finding is interesting. we're all going to be watching it. it was a horrendous event and i think that what they're speak seeking to find out is something the public need to know. >> back with me matt dowd, ripe barber, a justice correspondent for insider. ryan, what do you make of the text believed to have been exchanged between the former secretary of energy rick perry and former whit

mark meadows is backing out of his deal to cooperate, while roger stone, he's pleading the fifth. question is how will the committee respond? >>> and president biden warns vladimir putin about russia's military buildup near the border of ukraine. the question is will that lead to a diplomatic solution? "way too early" for this. >>> good morning. welcome to "way too early." the show that has been unable to make a seamless order for 24 hours because of that amazon urge. we'll talk about that in the show. i'm also jonathan lemire, on this wednesday, december 8th. let's start with the news, president biden is warning vladimir putin about the invasion of ukraine. the biden called it tense but occasionally lightened by humor. >> hello. >> good evening. >> good to see you again. unfortunately, we didn't get to see each other in the g20, i hope next time we do it in person. >> and making it clear that any military action by moscow would end the hopes for a key natural gas pipeline. officials say putin gave no intention of his intent but asked for, quote, reliable guarantees that nato will

listen to what roger stone said as he was coming out of his deposition on friday. take a listen. >> i did invoke my fifth amendment rights to every question, not because i have done anything wrong, but because i am fully aware of the house democrats' long history of fabricating perjury charges on the basis of comments that are innocuous, immaterial, or irrelevant. >> jill, any surprises here? >> it's surprising that he would admit that his claim of the fifth amendment is spurious, because if he did nothing wrong, then he has no fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination. that's what the fifth amendment is, and there he was admitting in public i have nothing to worry about in terms of self-incrimination because i didn't do anything wrong. and of course his accusation against the committee is also absurd. so i think it was a silly thing for him to have said. >> so malcolm, i hear your chuckling. feel free to weigh in on that, but i want to ask, i saw this and thought of you, three retired generals wrote a op-ed on "the washington post" and wrote the militar

the longest among those who have been so far charged as a result of the riot staunch trump ally roger stone showed up to testify before the house select committee investigating the january 6 riot today. but. >> there was no testimony for 90 minutes. stone pleaded his 5th amendment right against self-incrimination in answer to every single question in the meantime, investigators say they believe former energy secretary rick perry texted former trump chief of staff mark meadows a day after the presidential election calling for an aggressive strategy to undermine the election. >> next. a 10 alarming new numbers in the opioid crisis. authorities have uncovered a record amount of fentanyl this year. why they are blaming social media and social media again in the news. the threats may not have been real bay area. schools are still on edge. so after the latest tiktok challenge threatened violence. now the company is responding tonight. >> unfortunately, it's one of those seasonal risks that we during the holiday season throughout the winter months. >> and the tragedy in pittsburgh. woman found dea

. >> we're also learning roger stone is planning to plead the fifth.we've been seeing. former doj official, jeffrey clark is another one. his attorney has indicated he'll take the fifth. here's congressman adam schiff addressing this issue -- >> if they're asserting the fifth merely to cater to the president's whims or cover up for the president, that is not a proper use of the privilege. but we will have to do our best to divine if they're properly invoking the fifth or using it as a strategy to keep information -- >> norm, how does the committee figure out who can plead the fifth legitimately and who's just trying to stonewall? what can they do about it? >> well, there are serious criminal issues here as we've been discussing. if you lose an election, you can't then attempt to tell lies or commit fraud, to hang on to your office. so to the extent there was a conspiracy, election fraud or otherwise, there's criminal issues. but you can't just say i'm going to take the fifth on twitter and -- and that's the end of the story. these individuals will need

the list includes roger stone, who says he will plead the fifth to avoid answering questions. the clock is ticking for this committee. a potential gop majority after the midterms in 2022 could shut down the panel for good. cnn's ryan nobles is on capitol hill for us. so ryan, it sounds like those thousands of documents that meadows originally turned over will be very helpful to the committee, so do we know what's in those? >> we're getting some idea of what exactly mark meadows handed over to the january 6th committee. and alisyn, you're right. it is pretty revealing about the role that meadows played in the events leading up to january 6th, specifically the peddling of this false information about the election results in november. this is just part of the letter that they released today, where they expressed concern about meadows' lack of cooperation and their willingness to move forward on criminal contempt. it reads, quote, on november 7th, 2020 email discussing the appointment of an alternate slate of electors is part of a direct and collateral attack after the election. a

. >> reporter: roger stone, one of the former president donald trump's most prominent and controversial supporters met with the january 6th select committee today. >> i am doing my civic duty, and i am responding as required by law to the subpoena. >> reporter: but he didn't say much. >> i did invoke my fifth amendment rights to every question. not because i have done anything wrong but because i am fully aware of the house democrats' long history of fabricating perjury charges. >> reporter: stone used the opportunity in his traditional showman's style, presenting himself as a martyr for the maga cause with well-worn accusation and not much substance. >> this is witchhunt 3 ha.0. >> reporter: he stoked false election fraud claims and the fervor among trump supporters. >> help us pay for the staging, the transportation and, most importantly, the security of our peaceful protesters. >> reporter: he raised millions of dollars. he was among the speakers at rallies in d.c., leading up to january 6th. >> and now they seek nothing less than the heist of the 2020 election, and we say no way! >>