nick, you know roger stone going all the way back to the roger gate days. >> that's right. i interviewed him in my office in september of 1973. under investigation i was doing that in some ways was very similar here. he was on the capitol steps. as a diversion to the individuals who were brought up from miami, the same people who broke into the watergate complex two weeks later we were basically told by the white house to beat up daniel ellsberg who had released the pentagon papers. in fact, one of those people told me that he was instructed to kill ellsberg. and the whole idea was that roger stone was in a group of people that he recruited as counter demonstrators to detract the capitol police away from, you know, the individuals who are actually gonna perpetrate the assault. >> so, i mean here we are all these years later, and to me, i think it's clear that they're zeroing in on roger stone. what's your take away from that exclusive interview we had? >> out, i think it's all more of the same. one thing they didn't mention was that the stop the steal actually goes back to

i also have known roger stone, and this is peak roger stone by way of anecdote. 2009, summoned me touse he wanted me to run for new york city mayor. not to win, just to "f-s up." "f stuff up." right? like the william f. buckley thing, not going to win. just mess with stuff. always his mantra. let's mess with stuff you. what's important he saw in 2020 an opportunity for the judges, the trump loyal judges, he thought they might be corrupt enough for trump supporters. he thought they might be violent enough. he had a reading of 2020 where he thought all of this disruption could really work and take hold. >> another clip last night where stone was saying he was arguing for blanket pardons for all the congressmen, and but then he said, i think the president's for it, but it's the -- was it lily livered white house counsel, and the staff. i wonder how that went over in mar-a-lago? the idea that the president was not man enough to overrule the staff is kind of what stone was arguing. power of pardon is absolute. has nothing to do with the staff are and the u.s. constitution. i wonder when t

so, if you have roger stone involved with the oath keepers, and communicating with them, that is a connective tissue. and finally, i'd say donald trump is smart to rely on water stone, as that intermediary, because he knows he does not slip. he's a guy who is willing to, you know, go to trial, be convicted, and he keeps the oath of omerta. if you need somebody to pull this, of roger stone is the go-to guy. >> he's also believed to be the architect behind stop the steal. luke, how helpful do you believe this information about stone can be? >> right, well the january 6th community sense some other top investigators to denmark to get this footage. it's about 170 hours of documentary footage, of roger stone's actions. and we do expect some of it to be played wednesday, i know the filmmakers are coming down from new york for the hearing. as andrew rightly points out, roger stone had oath keepers as bodyguards as january six, several of the oath keepers are charged criminally with seditious conspiracy. so you don't really have to look that hard to see that he is a link between trump, he is trump's

one of those names is roger stone. he's somebody we know had relationships with members of the proud boys. he knows the oath keepers. he knows these people. he's using some of them as his body guards. i want to play a piece of tame from just to confirm from my producers, november of 2020, november of 2020. this is roger stone talking about what he thinks should be done. we know at this point trump has lost, he knows he's lost. he doesn't want to leave the office. this is actually -- i'm sorry, this is before the election happens. sorry, thanks to my producer in my ear. here is roger stone. go. >> excellent. let's get right to the violence. shoot to kill. shoot to kill. done with this [ bleep ]. >> all right, tim. i mean, you're up. this is before the election even happens. roger stone says f the voting. let's get right to the violence. your thoughts. >> look, roger stone has been a pernicious and criminal element of donald trump's team going all the way back to 2015. peter can talk about this going back to the mueller

that is what roger stone says.an watch, obviously, the rest of it tonight on my show for more clips from the filmmakers. watch their interview and you're going to hear more about what they have to say about roger stone and their own interactions with the 1/6 committee. >> computer altered clips. quite a statement. >> i had no idea that kim kardashian was subjected to -- yes or no what he's talking about. i'll have to check. >> i missed that headline. i'll have to check after the show as well. thank you so much, sir. don is going to have so much more on roger stone and those clips tonight on "don lemon tonight" at 10:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. >>> let's get reaction and analysis from a defense attorney and cnn counterterrorism analyst and our cnn justice correspondent evan perez is back with us as well. gentlemen, thank you so much for being with me. phil, i want to go to you first. your reaction just to those clips, that interview, and what questions does it raise for you about roger stone and who he was with around j

they had extraordinary access to roger stone.not seen all the clips the committee has shown, to be clear, but what roger stone was planning in the days and months leading up to the election was to make money on the stop the steal matter, which is what the committee is interested in, and laying the ground work to begin challenging election results and potentially having a consecration of sorts around the election. >> we learned from two sources that senior leadership at the secret service confiscated the cell phones of 24 agents in response to january 6th, and there were questions over the summer about the missing messages. >> there are still questions about those text messages. while the secret service has given over hundreds of thousands of communications from the days around january 6th to the january 6th committee, those key text messages from the 5th and 6th from specific individuals that they wanted to hear from and the inspector general, they say in the words of liz cheney, the texts themselves are likely gone and not repli

which is. >> this is roger stone criticizing the white house counsel office for what he described as argument that then president trump could not provide preemptive pardons to stone and others, but there are large development in efforts to overturn the election, listen. >> figure this out. >> you are talking about pardoning a movement. >> i think 132 congressman voted with trump. that's 132 right there. the u.s. can be as bigger as small as you want. but it's a way of saying, this is so you can't run your witch hunt to. i'm going to do a movie poster, which hunt to. with a big picture of merrick garland. >> so that's the concept. as we've been pitched to the president? >> i believe the president is for. the obstacles are these weak kneed bureaucrats in the white house counsel's office. now they must be crashed, because they told the president something that is not true. >> he is suggesting here that the president was getting bad advice in that he would be able to do a blanket pardon. is there more you can tell us about this? >> i think so. order stone was very afraid of getting arrest

roger stone is back in the news today.ough in your investigative work to understand this was really planned with this many tentacles. >> breakthrough the first thing was the call detail records. you have to have those millions of lines of data and enough data to ascertain what is happening and i don't want to get too crazy. just like the book i try to just say it. you have these groups and you do something called frequency analysis and the first thing we call when we start seeing how detailed it was the first thing you do if you can't get called records say someone like roger stone you can still run numbers against call detail records they have in the last thing, the third thing is sometimes the assistant for stone or flynn or steve bannon who you're just talking about or for alex jones may not be practicing the same operational security. all my goodness once you get these call detail records you see the same centers of gravity. at that point it is an aha moment because you've been working in terrorism. >> it is central wi

this is roger stone you'll hear in this clip as captured by a documentary crew. >> excellent. [ bleepe violence. shoot to kill. see an antifa. shoot to kill. [ bleep ] 'em. >> in other clips, stone pushes for the 2020 results to be tossed out before the election even happened. the previously unseen footage could play a key part in tomorrow's january 6th hearing. cnn's jessica schneider is live in washington. jessica, tell us more about this footage, what's in it, who has it and what's roger stone saying about it now. >> ana, these were danish filmmakers. they followed roger stone for three years piecing together this documentary. when the january 6th committee subpoenaed them for footage about two months ago, the filmmakers struck a deal with the committee and agreed to hand over about eight minutes of this film plus certain unedited portions. the filmmakers were interviewed last night by don lemon. they said when the committee approached them, they came forward this idea that they wanted to piece together any three-way link between the white house, roger stone and those extremist gro

that's what roger stone says for the record.e prosecutor, its value as evidence, is it valuable maybe outside the committee say at the justice department. >> it is valuable. it's hard to say any of those comments are offhand statements or jokes or asides that people could -- the former president all the time say i was kidding, i was teasing, i was joking. this is not great for him criminally. for the january 6th committee, what their case is and what they're building for is a report that weighs out all the information about january 6th. this is valid and valuable for that purpose. now, look, will this lead to them referring for criminal charges? we don't know. for their goal, spot on. it's good stuff. >> this is over the weekend, jamie raskin, one of the democrats on the committee. why is this important? remember, a lot of people have said a crowd showed up for the trump rally, then they went to the capitol. it was spontaneous, it was unfortunate. jamie raskin says this piece of evidence should convince you no way. >> someone wh

appearance is on hold. >> our colleague don lemon just sat down with two filmmakers, following roger stone around and they've turned over some of the foot ang to the january 6 commissiony. here is a clip of stone before biden was declared the winner. >> let's just hope we're celebrating. i suspect it will be -- i suspect it will be up in the air. when that happens the key thing to do is to claim victory. possession is nine tenths of the law. no, we won -- [ bleep ] you. >> so what does this say about what we could especially see during the next committee hearing. >> they've shared some of the clips from the committee they do want to put more of a spotlight on roger stone and his lull in ginning up the crowd after january 6. we heard from other people around the former president the sort of same sentiment, that you should just claim victory no matter what. and we're waiting to see how much of that is a focus in the upcoming hearing but it is a point the committee is hearing in. >> still a lot to figure out about what we're hear going to hear. stay with us as i bring in our panelists, eli ho

it shows roger stone pretending violence on 1/6. we also know this week, people like stewart rhodes of the oath keepers are going trial at the same time this hearing is taking place. do you think we're going to see any implication by stewart rhodes, other oath keepers for people like roger stone, who we know have a connection? >> katie, that is what i think we're all waiting for the doj to eventually hone in on, but they have been doing their investigation a bit differently, as we've previously discussed, and have started from the bottom up. sort of hoping potentially that some of these fringier on the ground insurrectionists, people with less political clout and connections might potentially provide for information or maybe serve down the line, provideding insight into levels of coordination that could have existed between the white house. and again, these grassroots insurrectionists that has yet to pan out, though. but getting -- stewart rhodes, someone who has much more visibility than the average insurrectionist, someone who was

association with roger stone. >> long time association with stone.ou know, that's why the committees on the right track here. they've done a fantastic job with the american public needs to know why they're doing such a great job because the data is backing up. >> how would you in the year 2022, as we sit here describe yourself politically? ideologically? >> i mean, even what happened in the last couple of days, you know it's funny. i would do the same -- if you are in the political drive you have to sort of rally the troops around you, right? or if you feel like you don't know what's coming, or your assertion of what's happening. so i have a feeling when the book really system or is that unaffiliated individuals, i think people are gonna calm down, because when you look at it, the committee has talked a lot about all the stuff. but i can explain to individuals, people that weren't in the d.c. beltway, people who may come to my distillery, they can read a 280-page book, that can break it down like, this is why it could happen, and this is why it's tru

tomorrow's highly anticipated january 6th committee hearing when the panel is set to clip from roger stone's new documentary. >> the obstacles are these weak-kneed bureaucrats in the white house council's office. now they must be crushed. >> meanwhile in russia as more military men flee the country, the kremlin now acknowledges issues with its latest draft in yet another blow to putin's military strategy in ukraine. the former president of ukraine will join us with more on that. >>> we begin this hour with a very latest on hurricane ian, which made land falls in western cuba at 4:30 a.m. eastern bringing heavy rain and maximum sustained winds of 125 miles per hour. the latest tracking shows ian could reach florida's western coast as early as wednesday at hurricane strength. last hour florida's governor ron desantis held a press briefing where officials citing the national hurricane centers said they expect that ian to make hand falls in 35 hours in venice, florida. now things are moving fast. it you're in florida and you're unsure if you live within an evacuation zone, go here. floridadisast

i didn't know who roger stone was until after january 6th. now seeing that, you know, a member of the trump inner circle was interacting with a group like the proud boys, which is a white supremacist organization, and an anti-government organization, is shocking. it's alarming. i will say this. i've been involved in a lot of criminal investigations, and, you know, even the most unsophisticated drug dealer, i think, would tell you if you're going to plan a violent insurrection, don't embed a documentarian crew with you while you go about doing so. >> i want to ask you about kyle young. one of the people who assaulted you on january 6th. he's actually being sentenced today and prosecutors are asking for a sentence more than seven years in prison. what do you think he deserves? what do you want to see? >> um -- hmm. i'll say this. before the trial and the guy's name escapes me, a former nypd officer sentenced to ten years. the time in and of itself really didn't matter to me. what did matter to me was what mr. young did with that time, and, like

that is roger stone's take on these videos. again, as i said, you know, this clip and others that the january 6th committee has obtained. >> there's that. then the text messages between then white house chief of staff mark meadows and this pro trump operative behind plans to seize voting machines. what's going on there? >> that's right. this is a guy phil walder, he is a retired army colonel and this big promoter of election conspiracies. and he, you know, promoted this effort to try to seize voting machines. the goal, of course, is to try to find evidence of these baseless claims of voter fraud that have been pedalled by the trump team. these texts from december 2020. they show that he is keeping meadows, the then white house chief of staff, in the loop about his efforts to try to access these voting machines. at one point, you know, he is texting mark meadows to essentially lament the fact that, you know, an arizona lawsuit was dismiss bid a judge. they were trying to force state officials to hand over the voting equipment. a

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roger stone of course is doing roger stone things here inserting himself directly into the middle of big remaining questions is, was there a link or some chain of communication between the white house, roger stone and these extremist groups. we know for a fact roger stone associated himself with the oath keepers, with the proud boys. we've seen it on prior evidence that has come forward. and let's remember, cassidy hutchinson testified in "outfront" of this committee that on january 5th, the day before the attack mark meadows got in touch with michael flynn. so if i'm the committee would you be aiming to get to the bottom of those calls y. was mark meadows supposed to get in touch with michael flynn and what did they discuss. >> so you talk about the link which is crucial. establishing whether this helps the committee establish a drink link between the white house and the rioters and the violence and add to the mix here what denver riggleman told over the weekend, that there was a call between someone in the white house and a rioter in the middle of all of it. how does it factor pote

cnn has exclusively obtained new documentary footage of roger stone, footage that may be used possibly in an upcoming january 6th committee hearing. in that video stone, a longtime republican operative and ally of former president trump appears to call for violence before the votes were even counted in the 2020 election. that clip is one of several that danish filmmakers shared with the january 6th committee. another clip shows stone discussing strategy of simply claiming victory no matter who wins. take a look. >> let's just hope we're celebrating. i suspect it will be -- i really do suspect it will still be up in the air. when that happens, the key thing to do is to claim victory. possession is nine-tenths of the law. we won. [ bleep ] you. we won. you're wrong. [ bleep ] you. >> in response to that video roger stone responded with a statement saying "i challenge the accuracy and authenticity of these videos and believe they have been manipulated and selectively edited. i also point out that filmmakers have no right to use them. the excerpts you provided below prove nothing. certainl

the news essentially is a tax of roger stone asking, roger stone had been convicted of a jury of extradition of justice and witness tampering. he had been sentenced and that his sentence was commuted before the election and then he was fully pardoned after the election by donald trump. what do your colleagues report about what he was asking for after january 6th? >> so no surprise. he's asking for another pardon. in some of the text messages, he knows that he'd been pardoned before, so he's arguing that this should not be a big deal for donald trump because it's already happened. it should just sort of fly right by the american people and they should be fine with it. and the person he is texting knows that that is true and says, maybe donald trump is the first president to be impeached two times, you can be the first person pardoned by that president's twice. it's absurd on its face but at the same time it does speak to this idea that roger stone is cognizant of the fact that he may have done something that some people may have thought was a crime. >> i believe the term he uses, there will b

bathfitter.com to book your free consultation. >>> tonight, cnn obtaining video clips of trump ally roger stonehad been handed over to the january 6th committee. and what they show here is stone talking about claiming victory and getting, quote, right to the violence. that's a quote. and that was just days before the 2020 election. >> excellent. [ bleep ], [ bleep ] the violence, the voting. let's get right to the violence. >> let's get right to it. >> shoot to kill. see an antifa, shoot to kill. done with this bull shit. >> shoot to kill, f the voting. evan perez is "outfront." he said it. there is no ambiguity there. this footage is expected to be part of the january 6th committee hearing on wednesday. what more can you tell me? >> well, erin, as you said, this is a hearing that is expected to focus on the extremists that played a role in the violence on january 6th. and as you can tell, even days before the election, roger stone was already sort of laying the groundwork for this idea that donald trump won the election, even without seeing the results. take a listen. >> let's just hope we're

i wonder what impact, if any, you'll see what impact from roger stone might have?> they've used those clips effectively. i think that roger stone at some point may have forgotten that he was being recorded. there's some other clips that they have where he's very confessional, very blunt about what he has to say. so, yes, those are not manipulated recordings contrary to his accusation. those are roger. and that's certainly his mentality. >> you, of course, were a star witness in the watergate investigation. and at last throughline from watergate to events of today, not the least of which the richard nixon tattoo on roger stone's back. but what you have now -- and i've heard this before, but you're hearing it more in public now are trump supporters, we saw ben stein on lara trump's podcast last week arguing that trump and nixon were somehow treated wrongfully for in his words, doing nothing wrong. and i wonder given your close observations of these investigations of trump and your involvement in the watergate investigation, what's your reaction to seeing folks exoner

we decided to look up with roger stone because he has been with trump for 30 years. >> so we have a clip here where we hear roger stone calling for political violence. let's take a look at that. >> excellent. [ bleep ] the violence. [ bleep ] the violence. shoot to kill. cnn, antifa, shoot to kill. done with this [ bleep ]. >> give us the context of that. >> we were returning from a rally, it's just literally days before the election. we were returning from a rally in georgia, and as i think most people recall, the days before the election were extremely tense. i think this was an expression of frustration with the expectation of the pending defeat of donald trump. >> he reportedly followed those statements by saying he was kidding. let's take a look at another clip where we hear roger stone laying out the plan to challenge and discredit the election results. >> what they're assuming is the election will be normal. the election will not be normal. oh, these are not the california results? we're not accepting them. if the electoral college shows up, armed guards will

we know this roger stone documentary footage is going to be a part of the proceedings. what else should we be looking for? >> well, there's the committee is still held its cards close to the chest for exactly how this is going to play out. but we do know according to the chairman bennie thompson that he's going to lead the hearing. each member is going to play some sort of part in these proceedings. it won't be quite like the other hearings we've seen so far. individual number will lead it. there is a specific theme. and that would, you know, touch on any number of different pieces of testimony. tomorrow is likely to be in some ways final argument for part of investigation. >> and we're going to hear from thompson, what sort of role do we anticipate liz cheney playing tomorrow. she of course, since we last had one of these hearings, was defeated in the republican primary in her reelection bid. >> cheney is the vice chair of the committee will still play a major role. it remains to be seen exactly how this is going to shake out tomorrow. we can expect certainly more deta

hearings are rescheduled is documentary footage from trump's former adviser and long time friend roger stonelmed by danish filmmakers in the months leading up to the attack on the capitol. that includes a clip where stone seemingly predicts four months before the election that they would never accept the results if they lost. >> what they're assuming is that the election will be normal. the election will not be normal. oh, these are the california results? sorry, we're not accepting them. we're challenging them in court. if the electors show up, armed guards will throw them out. i'm the president. [ bleep ] you. i'm challenging all of it, and the judges we're going to are judges i appointed to. >> that clip is a reminder that the idea that an election can be overturned is a long standing belief of roger stones since he was involved in a nearly identical scheme in 2000. stone then used those claims of mass hundreds of -- to mass hundreds of operatives on miami-dade county, demanding an end to the state-wide recount on george w. bush's behalf, to take away from the legitimate state-wide recoun

it's bad for roger stone. that clip you played at the beginning of -- what was it -- f the whatever, let's just start shooting. i didn't want to repeat it, but it's bad and disgraceful conduct. does it change anything? who knows. but at the end of the day they're putting together a report at the end of this for the american people. it will lay out the charges, lay out the allegations, rather, and we shall see. >> as they say, but wait, there's more. if you didn't like that, let me play another clip we have from that documentary footage that's been obtained. by the way, if you're keeping tabs on how many documentary videos were conducted or filmed through the course of this, number three or four, right? here it is. >> let's just hope we're celebrating. i suspect it'll be -- i suspect it'll still be up in the air. when that happens, the key thing to do is to claim victory. possession is 9/10 of the law. no, we won. [ bleep ] you. we won. you're wrong. [ bleep ] you. >> let me just say he has responded to this fo

a key player in the next hearing, roger stone. nbc news has obtained portions of the documentary, a storm foretold, which follows stone in the days leading up to january 6th. parts of the documentary will be featured in upcoming hearing. here's stone four months before the election telling an aide that trump should reject the results. >> what they're assuming is that the election will be normal. it will not be norm sal. oh, these are the california results, sorry. if the electors show up, armed guards will throw them out. i'm the president. [ bleep ] you. i'm challenging all of it and the judges we're going to are judges i appointed [ bleep ] you. you're not stealing the election. >> why was he so sure trump was going to lose? and here's roger stone after january 6th on plans for a pardon for himself and for others who were involved in plotting to overturn the election. >> talk b about how many -- >> i think 132 congressmen voted with trump. that's 132 right there. big or small as you want. it's a way of saying this is so you can'

they're both tied in with roger stone.the proud boys trial later this year, we have proud boys leadership who have already agreed to testify against their own to get out of seditious conspiracy charges. so we may learn a lot about their connections on january 6 but also their overall connections to trump's inner circle. and certainly we already know they were very close. stewart rhodes, the oath keepers and the current chairman of the proud boys henrique terrio, were both in a group text with roger stone on january 6 titled "friends of stone." stone, he sees henrique terrio, he declared him his friend and is meant tivo step i'm super interested to see where these trials lead us down the rabbit hole of trump and what might be eliminated beyond what january 6 committee has already brought forward. i think we will learn a lot. amy: if you can talk about the proud boys and the number of people running for office at the local, state and federal level linked to the proud boys and these extremist movements that want to normalize

that is roger stone's take on these videos. but again, as they, said there is this clip in others. with the january six committee has obtained. >> so there is that, sarah, the news these text messages between then white house chief of staff mark meadows, and this pro-trump operative behind plans to seize voting machines. what is going on there? >> that is right, this is a guy, phil waldron he's retired army colonel, but reportedly he's been this big promoter of election conspiracies. and he promoted this effort to try to seize voting machines, the goal is to try to find evidence of these basis claims of voter fraud have been peddled by the trump team. so these tech lieutenant i cnn from december 2020. and they really show that walter is keeping meadows in the white house chief of staff in the loop about his efforts to try an access these voting machines. at one point he is texting mark meadows to, essentially, lament the fact that in arizona lawsuit they try to bring in this by a judge. this was a lawsuit where they're trying to force state officials to hand over the voting equipme

around two hours in length and that one of the things we are going to see that's new is news of roger stone. not the first time we've seen footage trying to take viewers behind the scenes and show people in realtime what the conversations were that were happening including these from stone which show he was thinking early on, before the election, that they were going to just say they won even regardless if they did or not. he said nothing could be considered credible or unedited and said if any members wish to wave their immunity, he would be happy to sue them. you and i have covered the trump orbit for a long time. this sounds a lot like a usual roger stone response to something. but he's going to be one of the people the committee focuses on tomorrow. certainly in clips like this, a character in which they use to tell the story about what was happening around january 6th and the larger strategies undertaken by the trump orbit. >> is it going to be the last committee hearing? >> it depends on what you mean by some that that could be the last investigative hearing where they're teasing out

they did hang out with, talk to, plan with and were around roger stone in the days before.t. did they have a more direct connection? our reporting reports to some of them talking to andrew giuliani. in the days and weeks before january 6, did they have a more direct line? that's something that remains to be seen. >> ben, ryan and david, thanks to all of you. >>> former trump chief of staff mark meadows is scheduled to appear before a grand jury in atlanta today. including, former president trump, then president trump, asking georgia's secretary of state to find those 11,780 votes, so he could beat joe biden in the state. joining us now, blayne alexander at the courthouse, jonathan lemire, and glen kirschner. do we know whether meadows showed up? >> reporter: the short answer is no, we don't know. this is a grand jury. it's a secretive process. we have been watching all of the entrances all day long. we haven't seen him walk in. there is that underground entrance where vehicles can enter. we have no way of knowing whether or not he actually used that entrance. as for what th

it's clear that in some sense, roger stone was a go between. the actual election didn't matter to stone. the vote didn't matter. so we know that the the big lie was a criminal conspiracy that actually started before the election and it wasn't just the fake elector scheme, but it was also the violence of insurrection day that was also part of the plan. and the department of justice is on this. we know it has two different grand jury investigations of january 6th. one about the fake elector scheme, but the other is directly tied to this new evidence. the department is investigating the blood and violence of january 6th. >> so, look. what are you looking for tomorrow? i haven't heard anybody use the phrase smoking gun, but would constitute a smoking gun or what would be impactful that says, wow, they really wrapped this up big. what are you looking for, michael? >> i think a lot of this has been a smoking gun. it's been just one long smoking trail from the very beginning. very effectively laid out by the committee. i think for tomorrow, i think to

>> look, i think a lot of it is going to revolve around kind of political operatives like roger stone, steve bannon, people close to the former president who were ginning up a lot of violence and destruction on january 6th in the days leading up to the capitol attack. i think that's why you'll see this video footage, video clips from the danish documentary, because it really shows people like stone engaging with allies, the proud boys, far-right extremist groups who stormed the capitol. remember, the entire point of the committee is to show that trump and his allies are responsible for the capitol attack and that's where all these linings tie in. >> hugo, you've been digging through in your latest piece the new book from former republican congressman denver riggleman, also an adviser to the january 6th committee, focused on mark meadows, text messages he was sending around all of this leading up to january 6th. there's been pushback from the committee about some of the claims riggleman has made. tell us about that. >> i think the committee was frustrated. they'd been irked by the way

is there linked to roger stone, somebody communicated that?be really curious to hear if that comes a. >> that's really interesting. the incentive from there and and landing their defenses to get as close to the white house is possible or any communication of the white house that they could have. ryan riley and barbara mcquade thank you both. coming up, january six committee postpones its next hearing as hurricane ian approaches florida. what it means for the committees investigation going for plus everything you need to know about the threat from that hurricane. still ahead! d! i'm jonathan lawson here to tell you about life insurance through the colonial penn program. if you're age 50 to 85, and looking to buy life insurance on a fixed budget, remember the three ps. what are the three ps? the three ps of life insurance on a fixed budget are price, price, and price. a price you can afford, a price that can't increase, and a price that fits your budget. i'm 54, what's my price? you can get coverage for $9.95 a month. i'm 65 and take medications

. >>> we're getting an exclusive look at roger stone's involvement and whereabouts on january 6th. he was followed around by a danish documentary film crew for about three years and they have shared eight minutes of footage with the house select committee investigating the capital insurrection. in one of several clips obtained by cnn hear what stone says about refusing to accept the results of the 2020 election months before the vote even took place. >> what they're assuming is the election will be normal. the election will not be normal. oh, these are the california results? sorry, we're not accepting them. we're challenging them in court. if the electors show up, armed guards will show up. i'm the president, [ bleep ] you. you're not stealing. i'm challenging all of it. >> okay. now cnn's john london interviewed the film makers who shot that. they said roger stone appeared to hide detailed information from them about the stop the steal rally on january 6th and the planning around it. now the film makers say they did pick up on other clues that led them to believe stone was part o

you're wrong >> nbc news reached out to roger stone for comment and responded any claim, accusation or any implication that i knew in advance about, participated in or condoned any illegal action at the capitol or anywhere else on january 6th is false.n the eo delay th additionally, any claim that i was involved in the efforts to delay the certification of the electoral college are also false. did i express my opinions on the subject? yes. that's still allowed in america. meantime, nbc news has learned the secret service confiscated the cell phones of 24 agents involved in the agency's response to the capitol riot and handed them over to the department of homeland security's inspector general happened back in july around the time the inspector general launched a criminal investigation into the secret 6t service deleting agents' tex messages from january 6th and the seditious conspiracy trial is now underway for members of the oath keepers militia group cnbc senior washington correspondent eamon javers is tracking the trial. believed ty 6th was an insurrection by far right groups 17 jur

we won. >> reporter: in a statement roger stone says the clips don't prove he had anything to do with the events of january 6th. another turn in the investigation of that day. the secret service has collected two dozen cell phones as it probes the january 6th text messages. scott macfarlane, cbs news, the capitol. >>> we turn to new developments in russia's war with ukraine. pro russian officials say residents of four occupied territories in ukraine voted overwhelmingly in favor of referendums to become part of russia. now the u.s. and other western nations have denounced those elections saying that they were meant to pave the way for russia to annex parts of ukraine. in a video address to the u.n. security council yesterday, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy said russia is attempting to steal the territory of another state. meanwhile, european leaders are accusing russia of sabotaging two underwater gas pipelines in the baltic sea. video shows methane bubbles on the surface above the one and two pipelines running from russia to germany. the damage had no immediate effect on eur

trump ally roger stone, who was allegedly protected by oath keepers ahead of january 6th, is under new scrutiny tonight for comments made just before the election revealed in a soon to be released documentary. he's also heard arguing trump's team should declare victory before the results are fully counted. >> is the key thing to do possession is nine-tenths of the law, no, we won. >> reporter: in a statement to cbs news, roger stone says the video clips don't prove he had anything to do with the events of january 6th. meanwhile, the secret service says it has collected two dozen cell phones from agents and given them to an internal inspector as they probe missing text messages from january 6th. norah. >> scott macfarlane on the hill for us. thank you, scott. russia. but the referendums are being dismissed by u.s. officials. >>> he told us the russian dictator is making reckless decisions in the war on ukraine. >> based on your analysis, do you think he'll be able to mobilize 300,000 troops? >> it remains to be seen. even if he's able to mobilize 300,000 troops, it's not as if throwing

ui trumte sh uld decl resul are counted. > >> reporter: in a statement to cbs news, roger stone sayslips don't prove he had anything to do with the events of january 6th. meanwhile, the secret service has collected two dozen cell phones from agents and given them to an internal inspector, as they probe missing text messages from january 6th. norah. >> o'donnell: scott macfarlane on the hill for us. thank you, scott. tonight, european leaders are accusing russia of sabotaging two underwater gas pipelines in the baltic sea. ukraine is calling it a terrorist attack. authorities are investigating the leaks in the nord stream 1 authorities are investigat and 2 pipelines, a vital source of natural gas for europe. there was a sudden drop in pressure on monday. video shows bubbles where the leaks occurred after underwater explosions were detected. and tonight, pro-russian officials in several occupied territories in ukraine claim residents have voted to join russia-- but the referendums are being dismissed by u.s. officials as a sham. well, we want to turn now to our exclusive interview with

we won. >> reporter: roger stone's video clips say nay prove he had nothing to do. two dozen cell phones were collected from act and given to an inspecialty as they probe missing text messages from smith. norah. >> o'donnell: scott macfarlane on the hill for us. thank you, scott. tonight european leaders are accusing russia of abtajing two underwater gas pipelines in the baltic sea. ukraine is calling it a terrorist attack. authorities are investigating the felix the nord stream 1 and 2 pipelines, a vital source of natural gas for yiewmplet there was a sudden drop in pressure monday, videos show bubbles where leaks occurred after underwater explosions were detected. tonight pro russian officials in several occupied territories in ukraine claim residents have voted to join russia, but the referendums are being dismissed by officials as a shavment we want to turn to our exclusive interview with c.i.a. director bill burns, the last u.s. official to have met with vladimir putin, and he told us the russian dictator is making reckless decisions in the war on ukraine. base

roger stone is a private citizen and it sure seems that roger stone knew beforehand trump wasn't going to win. now he took the committees evidence out of context saying it is not credible, but earlier today former january six advisor denver riggleman had this to say. >> he's full of crap because, here's the thing. people say can, and you have all this weird conspiracy theories. stone is in trouble. you know every time they open their mouth or lying in the committee knows this. >> we are now waiting for the next steps from the committee. there are still unresolved questions, big ones. whether this next hearing will be the last. how will possible criminal referrals be handled, and what is that final report going to look like? meanwhile, and you see reports a secret service leadership has confiscated the phones of 24 agents involved in the gym six response. they were handed over to the department of homeland security's inspector general back in july shortly after he launched a probe into those missing text messages from the six. we're also following the start of the oath keepers stewart r

da documentary footage shows roger stone days before the to 20 to election. , let's get right to the violence. stone questioning the authenticity of that footage. >>> texas attorney general ken paxton ran away to avoid being served a subpoena. it was part of a lawsuit to block potential criminal charges for helping women obtain abortions out of state. paxton says he was avoiding, quote, a stranger lingering outside his home. >>> this morning, u.s. stock futures are higher after all three major indexes started the week in major decline. the dow slipped into its first bear market since the pandemic. >>> president biden has announced new rules that require airlines and travel sites to be more transparent about the fees they charge. >> and on thursday, vice president kamala harris is set to visit the dmz in korea or the demilitarized zone. the 160-mile stretch that divides the north and south as part of her visit to asia. >> those are five things to know for your "new day." more on these stories all day on cnn and cnn.com. and don't forget to download the "5 thing

a key player in the next hearing, roger stone.follows stone in the days leading up to january 6th. parts of the documentary will be featured in upcoming hearing. here's stone four months before the election telling an aide that trump should reject the results. >> what they're assuming is that the election will be normal. it will not be norm sal. oh, these are the california results, sorry. if the

listen here. >> roger stone though is the classic.i mean, he's basically spent his whole career at that toxic nexus between gop power elite and then fascist street fighters. >> why does he matter in the january six stories? >> well, stay tuned for that because he's someone who, i think, he's someone who i think saw where things were going. >> and he has been, stone has denied any involvement on january 6th. but he has refused to speak with the committee about that. he's even sued members of the committee to block complying with a subpoena. but we do know that he's a close ally of members of the proud boys, and oath keepers, those far-right groups that play such a huge role in the attack on the capitol. so, it'll be interesting to see how much of what we already knew from past hearings will play into what we are possibly, what we will possibly learn on wednesday, yasmin. ali if you could look tackle on that before i go to barbara on this, this idea that we are learning now about the former president's attorneys blocking the granbury fr