know let me let me rephrase the question you know i was i was reviewing the wiki pedia page of roger vero but going jesus. in that page you know what if it is reason to be adamant about the large block size debate he believes that bitcoin has a window of opportunity but to gain wide scale global adoption before a state comes into the mix creates their own version and steals bitcoins thunder in other words he believes that there's a time element here if i'm i don't want to i'm just paraphrasing that my interpretation of what i read here this is not well taken verbatim from what his words this is just my interpretation of what i read but is that a valid point or one that you know to what extent is there a point to be made there and roger vera certainly a pillar of the community going back to the early days your thoughts. were i think it's three year we went to you know put forward very odd funerals for thinkin doll. shall i say that is so fundamental to the community. because we didn't go for . conquering more territory should go for resisting and making its own territory more softly it's m