they are saying that rohm emmanuel was famous for saying not to let it go to waste. but he is pushing for too much beyond what they were talking about. trying to make up for 40 years worth of democratic congressional demand and the agenda items. saying -- wait a minute, that was a curtailing of that. you could argue the same thing with president bush. as far as the issue of going into iraq, we made the same argument. in the beginning there was bipartisanship on everyone's part. then the coalition started to crumble. you have to constantly understand the mandate the public is giving you. the public is pretty good at slapping back. >> i think that that is exactly right. going through the entire impeachment thing with president clinton, at the worst of it his job approval rating was 71. it was not his personal conduct so much that they were so appalled that the media. the media could not get enough of it. republicans loved it. the chairman of the government oversight committee at the time did a two -- two year investigation of the president's christmas card list. no kid

host: we are talking about rohm emmanuel, survivalist. how many of them will carry over?: it is important that the replacement for rohm emmanuel is the leader of the survivalists. a congressional liaison, with people like larry summers on the economic team. some of them have left or are on their way out. the most interesting character that was not part of the coming in white house, getting other people involved in communication, like dan piper or david axelrod, shifting from campaigning to governing. what they did not understand was that technically the other side have a soft campaign. they were transitioning into this washington mode. they expected republicans to come with it? but it never happened. host: what about this notion of getting through the campaign and then having a couple of years instituting legislation and changing the culture? what does it tell you? guest: they thought they would have a window, maybe a few months, maybe a year. but there was no window. not in washington. every administration, it seems to actually get much worse and more exaggerated. the cu

host: we are talking about rohm emmanuel, survivalist. how many of them will carry over? guest: it is important that the replacement for rohm emmanuel is the leader of the survivalists. a congressional liaison, with people like larry summers on the economic team. some of them have left or are on their way out. the most interesting character that was not part of the coming in white house, getting other people involved in communication, like dan piper or david axelrod, shifting from campaigning to governing. what they did not understand was that technically the other side have a soft campaign. they were transitioning into this washington mode. they expected republicans to come with it? but it never happened. host: what about this notion of getting through the campaign and then having a couple of years instituting legislation and changing the culture? what does it tell you? guest: they thought they would have a window, maybe a few months, maybe a year. but there was no window. not in washington. every administration, it seems to actually get much worse and more exaggerated.

host: we are talking about rohm emmanuel, survivalist. how many of them will carry over? guest: it is important that the replacement for rohm emmanuel is the leader of the survivalists. a congressional liaison, with people like larry summers on the economic team. some of them have left or are on their way out. the most interesting character that was not part of the coming in white house, getting other people involved in communication, like dan piper or david axelrod, shifting from campaigning to governing. what they did not understand was that technically the other side have a soft campaign. they were transitioning into this washington mode. they expected republicans to come with it? but it never happened. host: what about this notion of getting through the campaign and then having a couple of years instituting legislation and changing the culture? what does it tell you? guest: they thought they would have a window, maybe a few months, maybe a yr. but there was no window. not in washington. every administration, it seems to actually get much worse and more exaggerated. th

host: we are talking about rohm emmanuel, survivalist. how many of them will carry over? guest: it is important that the replacement for rohm emmanuel is the leader of the survivalists. a congressional liaison, with people like larry summers on the economic team. some of them have left or are on their way out. the most interesting character that was not part of the coming in white house, getting other people involved in communication, like dan piper or david axelrod, shifting from campaigning to governing. what they did not understand was that technically the other side have a soft campaign. they were transitioning into this washington mode. they expected republicans to come with it? but it never happened. host: what about this notion of getting through the campaign and then having a couple of years instituting legislation and changing the culture? what does it tell you? guest: they thought they would have a window, maybe a few months, maybe a year. but there was no window. not in washington. every administration, it seems to actually get much worse and more exaggerated.